IRC log of er on 2007-08-29
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-er-irc
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- 13:51:27 [shadi]
- meeting: ERT WG
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- chair: Shadi
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- regrets: Johannes, CarlosV
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Aug/0015.html
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- agenda+ "Content" in EARL and in HTTP-in-RDF
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- agenda+ Inferred test results
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- agenda+ Requirements for Pointer Methods in RDF
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- zakim, this will be ert
- 14:02:04 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start 2 minutes ago
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +Shadi
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- hi carlos, looks like it's only the two of us :(
- 14:04:24 [ReinhardR]
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- +Carlos_Iglesias
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- + +43.702.4aaaa
- 14:11:21 [shadi]
- zakim, aaaa is really Reinhard
- 14:11:21 [Zakim]
- +Reinhard; got it
- 14:11:27 [shadi]
- scribe: CarlosI
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
- 14:11:47 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. ""Content" in EARL and in HTTP-in-RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:12:39 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Aug/0012
- 14:12:56 [carlosI]
- SAZ: comments related to Content in EARL and HTTP-in-RDF summarized
- 14:14:20 [carlosI]
- CI: when http:Content came in?
- 14:15:46 [carlosI]
- CI: AFAIK is not part of HTTP and so I think is not a good idea to have it at HTTP-in-RDF
- 14:16:18 [carlosI]
- SAZ: AFAIR the idea came in at last F2F
- 14:16:53 [carlosI]
- SAZ: probably it was named Content instead of Body because the property was already body
- 14:18:54 [carlosI]
- SAZ: one of the possible solutions is to get the Content "concept" outside of both into a new document and reuse from there as CarlosV argued
- 14:19:21 [shadi]
- http:Body subClassOf rfc822:Content
- 14:20:40 [carlosI]
- SAZ: The first question is, should we drop earl:Content or not?
- 14:21:16 [carlosI]
- SAZ: does anybody fell we need to keep it?
- 14:25:29 [carlosI]
- CI: so, the idea is to drop earl:Content and use TestSubject instead to point to a Content class defined anywhere?
- 14:25:29 [shadi]
- <earl:testsubject rdf:resource="content01"/>
- 14:25:33 [carlosI]
- SAZ: Yes
- 14:26:07 [shadi]
- <earl:Content rdf:ID="content01">
- 14:26:23 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10-Schema/#content
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- example 13
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- <earl:context rdf:resource="#httpRequest"/>
- 14:30:09 [carlosI]
- SAZ: earl:Content seems to be a not necessary in-between class
- 14:30:48 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/HTTP-in-RDF/#body
- 14:31:46 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Aug/0003.html
- 14:33:33 [carlosI]
- SAZ: http:Content is defined in quite a generic way now and could be reused
- 14:36:04 [carlosI]
- SAZ: if http:Content is generic enough earl:Content becomes redundant
- 14:36:57 [carlosI]
- SAZ: the question then is if going on with the http:Content is a "clean" solution
- 14:39:31 [carlosI]
- SAZ: also need to think how to separate it: a new section, a new document...
- 14:39:43 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 2
- 14:39:43 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Inferred test results" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:40:29 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0052
- 14:41:28 [carlosI]
- SAZ: Seems that there is a use case for an "inferred" result
- 14:41:47 [carlosI]
- SAZ: some people don't like the term itself
- 14:43:21 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/EARL10-Schema/#testmode
- 14:44:37 [carlosI]
- CI: composition of tests is more a test case definition question, not a result one
- 14:45:42 [carlosI]
- CI: for me the best solution is not to have a inferred result type and specify rules on how to compose different results
- 14:46:13 [carlosI]
- CI: e.g. automatic+automatic=automatic and automatic+manual=manual
- 14:46:51 [carlosI]
- CI: need to think about the possible combinations to see if could be tricky
- 14:47:26 [carlosI]
- RR: you'll lose the details, how many manual, how many automatic...
- 14:47:46 [carlosI]
- SAZ: you will still have the details in other results if you want
- 14:51:01 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 14:51:01 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Requirements for Pointer Methods in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:51:36 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0042
- 14:51:52 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0049
- 14:54:05 [carlosI]
- CI: don't like the idea of PointerGroup not beeing a Pointer subclass
- 14:54:20 [carlosI]
- CI: more difficult to reuse outside EARL
- 14:58:18 [carlosI]
- CI: no difference between Char and Byte Offsets
- 14:59:41 [carlosI]
- SAZ: more flexible
- 15:02:45 [carlosI]
- CI: could update the document with the changes
- 15:02:59 [carlosI]
- SAZ: would like to focus on the overall model
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- -Reinhard
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- -Shadi
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- -Carlos_Iglesias
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, Carlos_Iglesias, +43.702.4aaaa, Reinhard
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:03:48 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/29-er-minutes.html shadi
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see no action items