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14:59:43 <HarryH> Zakim, read agenda from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
14:59:43 <Zakim> working on it, HarryH
14:59:44 <Zakim> agenda+ Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-08-22T11:00-0400
14:59:45 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
14:59:46 <Zakim> agenda+ Standard Library Transform
14:59:47 <Zakim> agendum 2 added
14:59:48 <Zakim> agenda+ Comments on connections to XML Schemas
14:59:51 <Zakim> agendum 3 added
14:59:53 <Zakim> agenda+ Community Survey, Quick Reference (GRDDL Outreach)
14:59:55 <Zakim> agendum 4 added
14:59:56 <Zakim> agenda+ Atom, XML Vocabularies (GRDDL Outreach)
14:59:58 <Zakim> agendum 5 added
15:00:00 <Zakim> agenda+ Dublin Core, Microformat Profiles (GRDDL Outreach)
15:00:02 <Zakim> agendum 6 added
15:00:02 <danja> john-l, yeah - last minute actions :-)
15:00:04 <Zakim> agenda+ W3C GRDDL Service
15:00:07 <DanC> DanC has joined #grddl-wg
15:00:10 <Zakim> agendum 7 added
15:00:12 <HarryH> Zakim, this is grddl
15:00:14 <Zakim> agenda+ Relationship to XHTML 2 and HTML 5: head/@profile at risk
15:00:20 <Zakim> agendum 8 added
15:00:22 <Zakim> agenda+ Press Release
15:00:24 <Zakim> agendum 9 added
15:00:26 <Zakim> done reading agenda, HarryH
15:00:28 <Zakim> ok, HarryH; that matches SW_GRDDL()11:00AM
15:00:39 <DanC> DanC has changed the topic to: GRDDL WG 22 Aug http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-irc
15:00:59 <HarryH> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:00:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P2, ??P6
15:01:11 <Zakim> +Murray_Maloney
15:01:16 <dbooth> zakim, code?
15:01:16 <Zakim> the conference code is 47335 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), dbooth
15:01:25 <DanC> DanC has changed the topic to: GRDDL WG 22 Aug http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/weekly-agenda
15:01:25 <rreck> zakim, ?p2 is me
15:01:25 <Zakim> sorry, rreck, I do not recognize a party named '?p2'
15:01:28 <Zakim> +DBooth
15:01:36 <Zakim> +DanC
15:01:44 <rreck> zakim, ?P2 is me
15:01:45 <Zakim> sorry, rreck, I do not recognize a party named '?P2'
15:01:47 <Zakim> +john-l
15:01:51 <rreck> zakim, ??P2 is me
15:01:53 <Zakim> +rreck; got it
15:01:56 <rreck> whew
15:02:16 <dbooth> Meeting: GRDDL Teleconference
15:02:29 <dbooth> Chair: Harry Halpin
15:02:39 <rreck> he hasnt called in yet
15:02:43 <DanC> Zakim, take up item 1
15:02:43 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene GRDDL WG meeting of 2007-08-22T11:00-0400" taken up
15:02:56 <DanC> minutes 8 aug http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Aug/0029.html
15:03:06 <DanC> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Aug/att-0029/08-grddl-wg-minutes.html
15:03:24 <DanC> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:03:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see rreck, ??P6, Murray_Maloney, DBooth, DanC, john-l
15:04:01 <DanC> Zakim, ??P6 is DannyA
15:04:01 <Zakim> +DannyA; got it
15:04:23 <DanC> RESOLVED: to accept http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Aug/att-0029/08-grddl-wg-minutes.html as a true record
15:04:44 <DanC> PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 5th Sept 11:00-0400. scribe volunteer?
15:04:50 <danja> Zakim, mute me
15:04:50 <Zakim> sorry, danja, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:04:56 <DanC> Zakim, pick a scribe
15:04:56 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose john-l
15:05:11 <danja> Zakim, ??P6 is danja
15:05:11 <Zakim> I already had ??P6 as DannyA, danja
15:05:18 <DanC> RESOLVED:  to meet again Wed, 5th Sept 11:00-0400. john-l to scribe
15:06:41 <rreck> danC: murray needs to have status extended
15:07:24 <DanC> PROPOSED to cancel 29 Aug
15:07:25 <rreck> danc: are we skipping a week?
15:07:46 <Zakim> + +1.919.660.aaaa
15:07:52 <HarryH> Zakim, aaaa is HarryH
15:07:52 <Zakim> +HarryH; got it
15:08:12 <rreck> HarryH: is skipping a week a good idea?
15:08:54 <rreck> HarryH: let's schedule a meeting 
15:09:04 <HarryH> PROPOSED: to meet again Wed, 29th Aug 11:00-0400. scribe volunteer?
15:09:24 <HarryH> RESOLVED: to meet again Wed, 29th Aug 11:00-0400. john-l is scribe.
15:09:35 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:09:35 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Standard Library Transform" taken up
15:09:38 <DanC> (so that's instead of scribing 5 Sep, not in addition)
15:09:51 <rreck> HarryH: Jeremy isnt here
15:10:06 <rreck> DanC: can we confirm is his action is complete
15:10:13 <rreck> s/is/if
15:10:35 <HarryH> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/library
15:11:02 <rreck> DanC: minutes from last week as to whether his actions are complete
15:11:13 <rreck> DanC: are ambiguous
15:11:23 <rreck> DanC: his actions are compelte
15:11:26 <DanC> Revision: 1.3 $ of $Date: 2007/08/09 10:47:28 http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/library
15:11:37 <HarryH> ACTION: [DONE] jjc to organize library tests; link from http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/library
15:11:40 <rreck> s/compelte/complete
15:11:45 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:11:45 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Comments on connections to XML Schemas" taken up
15:12:13 <rreck> HarryH: looks like Chime has resolved the may/must not
15:12:53 <rreck> Murray: GRDDL describes that not how
15:13:09 <rreck> Murray: the changes are not yet complete
15:13:26 <rreck> HarryH: this change can be given to someone else
15:13:32 <DanC> (looking at http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/grddl-tests 2007/08/10 12:57:53 )
15:13:56 <rreck> Murray: it looks like the change has been done but not yet commited
15:14:43 <rreck> Murray: 8/10 changes show re-wording, the second email on 8/10
15:14:55 <rreck> DanC: revision 170
15:16:02 <rreck> DanC: i can make that change right now
15:16:18 <rreck> Murray: convert "that" to "how"
15:16:39 <rreck> Murray: convert "how" to "explains that"
15:17:13 <rreck> DanC: 1.71
15:18:14 <rreck> murray: in the spec, the DC transformation to/in is not correct
15:18:21 <dbooth> s/"how"/"describes how"/
15:18:45 <DanC> <p>For example, this document follows the conventions of
15:18:45 <DanC> <a href="#RFC2731">[RFC2731]</a>, and it explicitly uses the GRDDL
15:18:45 <DanC> profile and links to an XSLT transformation to 
15:18:45 <DanC> in RDF/XML to signal that the transformation is a faithful
15:18:45 <DanC> rendition:</p>
15:18:52 <DanC> -- http://www.w3.org/2004/01/rdxh/spec
15:19:28 <rreck> john-l: the owrd 'in' can be dropped
15:19:39 <rreck> s/owrd/word
15:19:47 <rreck> dbooth then
15:19:48 <DanC> fixed in 1.289
15:20:07 <rreck> dbooth: the owrd 'in' can be dropped
15:20:07 <DanC> s/john-l: the/dbooth: the/
15:20:16 <HarryH> ACTION [DONE]: Chime to take an action to the sentence that Murray objects to in the GRDDL Test Case documents.
15:20:27 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:20:27 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Community Survey, Quick Reference (GRDDL Outreach)" taken up
15:20:33 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:20:33 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, HarryH
15:20:38 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 5
15:20:38 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Atom, XML Vocabularies (GRDDL Outreach)" taken up
15:20:52 <HarryH> ack danja
15:21:03 <DanC> Zakim, danja is DannyA
15:21:03 <Zakim> sorry, DanC, I do not recognize a party named 'danja'
15:21:14 <DanC> Zakim, DannyA is danja
15:21:14 <Zakim> +danja; got it
15:21:48 <rreck> danja: xslt goes to rss looks promising
15:23:08 <rreck> danja can you help me summarize?
15:23:20 <DanC> aha... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2007JulSep/0049.html
15:23:33 <danja> there's the summary :-)
15:24:21 <rreck> harryH: this can be a good case for GRDDL
15:24:26 <HarryH> Zakim, next item
15:24:26 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Community Survey, Quick Reference (GRDDL Outreach)" taken up
15:24:31 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 6
15:24:31 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Dublin Core, Microformat Profiles (GRDDL Outreach)" taken up
15:24:45 <rreck> danja: have mailed them but havent heard back yet
15:24:46 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 7
15:24:46 <Zakim> agendum 7. "W3C GRDDL Service" taken up
15:24:58 <DanC> (I have searched high and low for my mail to dublin core about GRDDL, and I can't find the dang thing. I fear for my sanity; I'm fairly sure I sent it.)
15:25:12 <danja> Zakim, mute me
15:25:12 <Zakim> danja should now be muted
15:25:46 <danja> DanC, Peter (?) one of the DC folks referred to your xslt, so it looks like you did send it
15:26:19 <rreck> DanC: good progress is happening on Dan's action
15:26:26 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 8
15:26:26 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Relationship to XHTML 2 and HTML 5: head/@profile at risk" taken up
15:26:55 <rreck> HarryH: in Chime's absence can anyone help out
15:27:27 <rreck> DanC: let's allows NS in HTML 5
15:28:01 <rreck> HarryH: that doesnt eliminate the profile issue
15:28:15 <dbooth> s/let's/Sam Ruby's proposal was let's/
15:28:17 <danja> Sam Ruby's proposal - got link?
15:28:17 <danja> btw, http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/DroppedAttributeProfile
15:28:48 <rreck> thanks, dbooth
15:29:13 <danja> (only ref is to a blog post of mine - obviously needs work :-)
15:29:19 <DanC> http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/overlap
15:29:47 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 8
15:29:47 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Relationship to XHTML 2 and HTML 5: head/@profile at risk" taken up
15:29:50 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 9
15:29:50 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Press Release" taken up
15:30:16 <rreck> actually i thought of someone else to ask today
15:30:37 <HarryH> Ronald?
15:30:42 <rreck> can you here me
15:30:43 <HarryH> ack rreck
15:30:55 <rreck> no hear me?
15:30:55 <dbooth> zakim, unmute rreck
15:30:55 <Zakim> rreck was not muted, dbooth
15:31:01 <HarryH> unmute rreck
15:31:06 <rreck> i think i might be danja
15:31:12 <rreck> no mutes on me
15:31:17 <DanC> Zakim, who's muted?
15:31:17 <Zakim> I see danja muted
15:31:24 <DanC> zakim, unmute danja
15:31:24 <Zakim> danja should no longer be muted
15:31:25 <rreck> ack danja
15:31:43 <DanC> Zakim, danja is rreck-2
15:31:43 <Zakim> +rreck-2; got it
15:32:50 <danja> Zakim, who's on the phone?
15:32:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see rreck, rreck-2, Murray_Maloney, DBooth, DanC, john-l, HarryH
15:34:14 <rreck> i got myself confused with danja at the onset
15:34:42 <HarryH> Zakim, open item 4
15:34:42 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Community Survey, Quick Reference (GRDDL Outreach)" taken up
15:34:47 <HarryH> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/39407/GRDDLMICRO/results
15:34:50 <HarryH> They're public
15:34:53 <rreck> harryh: questionairs results at public
15:35:40 <rreck> harryh: some interest from outside the working group
15:35:58 <rreck> HarryH: microformat HCAL
15:36:16 <rreck> HarryH: every microformat has someone who thinks its important
15:36:19 <DanC> (though 9 seems a little low, I note the survey is still open: "This questionnaire is open from 2007-07-24 to 2007-08-31.")
15:36:45 <rreck> HarryH: the questionaire is still open
15:37:15 <rreck> aye
15:37:40 <rreck> HarryH: would people be interested to participate in  a SWIG?
15:37:49 <HarryH> ACTION: HarryH will e-mail questionnaire to working group grddl-wg.
15:40:16 <rreck> DanC: what reps can be contacted?
15:40:53 <HarryH> ACTION: DanC to prompt more responses to Rec review.
15:44:04 <rreck> HarryH: i will update the webpage
15:44:19 <HarryH> ACTION: HarryH to update web-page 
15:44:43 <rreck> im not allowed to
15:44:52 <Zakim> -Murray_Maloney
15:44:53 <rreck> help me finish here?
15:44:55 <Zakim> -john-l
15:44:56 <Zakim> -DBooth
15:45:09 <rreck> i dont know the last steps
15:45:20 <dbooth> zakim, who is here?
15:45:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see rreck, rreck-2, DanC, HarryH
15:45:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see DanC, rreck, Zakim, RRSAgent, dbooth, danja, john-l, HarryH
15:45:36 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:45:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
15:45:49 <dbooth> rrsagent, make logs public
15:47:01 <dbooth> zakim, who was here?
15:47:01 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, dbooth.
15:47:20 <john-l> zakim, list participants
15:47:20 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Murray_Maloney, DBooth, DanC, john-l, rreck, +1.919.660.aaaa, HarryH, rreck-2
15:48:11 <dbooth> Present: DanC, DannyA, Murray_Maloney, DBooth, HarryH, John_Clark
15:48:44 <dbooth> Present+ Ron_Reck
15:49:50 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2006OctDec/0018.html
15:49:59 <Zakim> -rreck
15:50:02 <dbooth> s/help me finish here?//
15:50:07 <dbooth> s/i dont know the last steps//
15:50:28 <danja> danja has left #grddl-wg
15:50:43 <dbooth> s/can you here me//
15:50:55 <dbooth> s/no hear me?//
15:51:31 <dbooth> s/<HarryH> unmute rreck//
15:51:41 <dbooth> s/i think i might be danja//
15:51:49 <dbooth> s/no mutes on me//
15:51:58 <dbooth> s/i got myself confused with danja at the onset//
15:52:29 <dbooth> s/actually i thought of someone else to ask today/Ron: actually i thought of someone else to ask today/
15:52:47 <dbooth> s/thanks, dbooth//
15:53:14 <dbooth> s/the owrd/the word/
15:53:35 <dbooth> s/dbooth then//
15:54:46 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:54:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
15:55:10 <HarryH> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-comments/2006OctDec/0018.html
15:56:06 <rreck> you're the man
15:57:50 <dbooth> Regrets: Jeremy Carroll, Ian Davis, Simone Onofri 
15:58:38 <rreck> did we get regrets for chime
15:58:55 <Zakim> -HarryH
15:58:57 <Zakim> -rreck-2
16:00:30 <rreck> thanks dbooth
16:00:39 <rreck> i guess i am done with these?
16:00:57 <dbooth> i|Revision: 1.3 $ of $Date: 2007/08/09|[After the meeting DBooth finds Jeremy's email, sent via Brian McBride, claiming victory: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007Aug/0020.html ]
16:01:20 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:01:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
16:01:27 <rreck> you are very competent i am actually impressed
16:01:46 <rreck> ok, apparently they didnt happen
16:02:08 <rreck> i sent some on a meeeting i missed but noticed they didnt end up in the minutes
16:02:39 <rreck> thanks for helping me out on this
16:02:49 <DanC> john-l gave regrets for Chime
16:03:01 <dbooth> Regrets+ Chime
16:03:05 <rreck> i sent them an entire week early since i was out of town for more then a week
16:03:19 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:03:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
16:05:08 <dbooth> i/you're the man/ADJOURNED/
16:08:00 <dbooth> i/did we get regrets for chime/Topic: Post-conference Chatter/
16:08:05 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
16:08:27 <dbooth> ScribeOptions: -final
16:08:33 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:08:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/22-grddl-wg-minutes.html dbooth
16:35:01 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, DanC, in SW_GRDDL()11:00AM
16:35:02 <Zakim> SW_GRDDL()11:00AM has ended
16:35:04 <Zakim> Attendees were Murray_Maloney, DBooth, DanC, john-l, rreck, +1.919.660.aaaa, HarryH, rreck-2