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13:42:33 <Steven> zakim, this will be forms\
13:42:33 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Steven
13:42:41 <Steven> zakim, this will be forms
13:42:41 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Steven
13:42:51 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
13:43:17 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046
13:43:23 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046
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14:55:28 <wellsk> zakim, who is here
14:55:28 <Zakim> wellsk, you need to end that query with '?'
14:55:32 <wellsk> zakim, who is here?
14:55:32 <Zakim> sorry, wellsk, I don't know what conference this is
14:55:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see wellsk, markbirbeck, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
14:55:41 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has joined #forms
14:55:50 <John_Boyer> zakim, this will be forms
14:55:50 <Zakim> ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:56:06 <John_Boyer> Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:56:17 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:56:17 <John_Boyer> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
14:56:20 <John_Boyer> Chair: John
14:56:24 <Zakim> +wellsk
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14:56:39 <John_Boyer> Regrets: Erik, Uli, Rafael, Rogelio
14:56:48 <John_Boyer> John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
14:57:06 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make log public
14:57:27 <MarkS> MarkS has joined #forms
14:57:29 <jturner> zakim, code?
14:57:29 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jturner
14:57:58 <Zakim> +John_Boyer
14:59:04 <Nick> Nick has joined #Forms
15:00:13 <Charlie> Charlie has joined #forms
15:00:36 <Nick> zakim, code?
15:00:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Nick
15:01:15 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:01:26 <Charlie> zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
15:01:26 <Zakim> +Charlie; got it
15:01:35 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:01:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie
15:01:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:01:41 <Zakim> + +31.16.465.aaaa
15:01:50 <Blake> Blake has joined #forms
15:01:56 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:56 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:57 <Nick> zakim, i am +31
15:01:58 <Zakim> +Nick; got it
15:01:59 <Zakim> +Steven
15:02:01 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
15:02:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
15:02:13 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:02:13 <Zakim> Nick should now be muted
15:02:37 <Zakim> +Blake
15:02:54 <MarkS> Having trouble dialling in
15:03:04 <klotz> klotz has joined #forms
15:03:06 <markbirbeck> markbirbeck has joined #forms
15:03:21 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
15:03:23 <Zakim> the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
15:03:41 <Zakim> +Leigh_Klotz
15:03:47 <Zakim> +??P13
15:03:48 <John_Boyer> Scribe: Leigh
15:03:53 <John_Boyer> scribenick: klotz
15:04:14 <Zakim> +??P18
15:04:25 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:04:25 <Zakim> On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, Nick (muted), Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, ??P13, ??P18
15:04:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:04:45 <Zakim> +jturner
15:05:13 <jturner> zakim, mute me
15:05:13 <Zakim> jturner should now be muted
15:05:38 <Steven> zakim, mute ??P18
15:05:38 <Zakim> ??P18 should now be muted
15:06:01 <Steven> zakim, ??p13 is MarkS
15:06:01 <Zakim> +MarkS; got it
15:06:11 <Steven> zakim, ??P18 is markbirbeck
15:06:11 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
15:06:28 <Steven> zakim, unmute markS
15:06:28 <Zakim> MarkS was not muted, Steven
15:06:43 <Steven> zakim, unmute markbitbeck
15:06:43 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not know which phone connection belongs to markbitbeck
15:06:55 <Steven> ack markb
15:07:43 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
15:07:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, Nick (muted), Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, MarkS, markbirbeck, jturner (muted)
15:07:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:08:03 <markbirbeck> markbirbeck has left #forms
15:08:09 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
15:08:20 <markbirbeck> markbirbeck has joined #forms
15:11:12 <lars> lars has joined #forms
15:11:52 <Zakim> +??P27
15:12:05 <lars> zakim, lars is ??P27
15:12:05 <Zakim> sorry, lars, I do not recognize a party named 'lars'
15:12:13 <lars> zakim, ??P27 is lars
15:12:13 <Zakim> +lars; got it
15:12:21 <lars> sorry for being late
15:15:46 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
15:15:46 <Zakim> Nick should no longer be muted
15:17:01 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:17:01 <Zakim> Nick should now be muted
15:17:04 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose
15:19:08 <Nick> can't we depricate if then?
15:19:26 <Nick> in xforms 1.1?
15:19:35 <John_Boyer> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-if
15:19:37 <Steven> good idea
15:19:50 <Steven> so there should be a comment in the section on if()
15:19:59 <Steven> Oh!
15:20:04 <Steven> It is already deprecated
15:21:38 <klotz> Steven: This function provides a replacement for the if() function that uses objects instead of strings.
15:23:12 <Nick> zakim, unmute me
15:23:12 <Zakim> Nick should no longer be muted
15:24:27 <Nick> zakim, mute me
15:24:27 <Zakim> Nick should now be muted
15:25:40 <klotz> ACTION: John Boyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:25:40 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:25:40 <trackbot-ng> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:26:13 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0038.html
15:26:16 <Steven> ACTION: JohnBoyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:26:16 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - JohnBoyer
15:26:20 <klotz> RESOLUTION: For XForms 1.1 we deprecate if, make choose return objects, and make the minor editorial changes to choose.
15:26:22 <Steven> damn
15:26:35 <Steven> ACTION: jboyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:26:35 <trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-393 - Make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples. [on John Boyer - due 2007-08-22].
15:27:07 <Steven> action 1=
15:27:12 <Steven> action 2=
15:28:53 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
15:29:04 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: lars (9%), Steven (4%)
15:34:06 <Steven> zakim, mute me
15:34:06 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
15:35:35 <Steven> zakim, who is noisy?
15:35:47 <Zakim> Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markbirbeck (9%)
15:36:46 <lars> zakim, mute me
15:36:46 <Zakim> lars should now be muted
15:40:09 <Steven> ack me
15:43:27 <Steven> zakim, mute me
15:43:27 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
15:44:48 <Nick> I think that in chiba it aren't seperate dom's
15:47:59 <jturner> +1 
15:50:37 <John_Boyer> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0000.html
15:53:05 <markbirbeck> q+
15:53:15 <John_Boyer> ack markbirbeck
15:53:15 <Steven> ack mark
15:56:16 <klotz> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2002JulSep/0277.html
16:00:09 <lars> zakim, unmute me
16:00:18 <Zakim> lars should no longer be muted
16:01:55 <klotz> Lars you also have to allow replace=instance to modify readonly nodes ;-)
16:02:03 <Steven> ack me
16:03:12 <Nick> bye
16:03:13 <jturner> bye
16:03:24 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
16:03:28 <Zakim> -Leigh_Klotz
16:03:30 <Zakim> -Steven
16:03:36 <Zakim> -Charlie
16:03:37 <wellsk> wellsk has left #forms
16:03:40 <Zakim> -Blake
16:03:44 <Zakim> -John_Boyer
16:03:46 <Zakim> -wellsk
16:03:50 <Zakim> -jturner
16:03:54 <Zakim> -lars
16:04:08 <Zakim> -MarkS
16:04:30 <John_Boyer> zakim, who is here?
16:04:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Nick
16:04:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see lars, markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Nick, jturner, John_Boyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
16:04:41 <John_Boyer> zakim, disconnect Nick
16:04:41 <Zakim> Nick is being disconnected
16:04:43 <Zakim> HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
16:04:44 <Zakim> Attendees were wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, +31.16.465.aaaa, Nick, Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, jturner, MarkS, markbirbeck, lars
16:04:58 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, make minutes
16:04:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:05:18 <John_Boyer> rrsagent, bye
16:05:18 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-actions.rdf :
16:05:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  [1]
16:05:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-25-40
16:05:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION:  [2]
16:05:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-26-16
16:05:18 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jboyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples. [3]
16:05:18 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-26-35