IRC log of forms on 2007-08-15

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13:42:21 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc
13:42:26 [Zakim]
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13:42:33 [Steven]
zakim, this will be forms\
13:42:33 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Steven
13:42:41 [Steven]
zakim, this will be forms
13:42:41 [Zakim]
I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Steven
13:42:51 [Steven]
rrsagent, make log public
13:43:17 [Steven]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046
13:43:23 [Steven]
Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046
13:56:53 [markbirbeck]
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14:55:28 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here
14:55:28 [Zakim]
wellsk, you need to end that query with '?'
14:55:32 [wellsk]
zakim, who is here?
14:55:32 [Zakim]
sorry, wellsk, I don't know what conference this is
14:55:33 [Zakim]
On IRC I see wellsk, markbirbeck, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
14:55:41 [John_Boyer]
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zakim, this will be forms
14:55:50 [Zakim]
ok, John_Boyer; I see HTML_Forms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes
14:56:06 [John_Boyer]
Meeting: Weekly Forms WG Telecon
14:56:17 [Zakim]
HTML_Forms()11:00AM has now started
14:56:17 [John_Boyer]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
14:56:20 [John_Boyer]
Chair: John
14:56:24 [Zakim]
+wellsk
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Regrets: Erik, Uli, Rafael, Rogelio
14:56:48 [John_Boyer]
John_Boyer has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
14:57:06 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make log public
14:57:27 [MarkS]
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14:57:29 [jturner]
zakim, code?
14:57:29 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), jturner
14:57:58 [Zakim]
+John_Boyer
14:59:04 [Nick]
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15:00:13 [Charlie]
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15:00:36 [Nick]
zakim, code?
15:00:36 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Nick
15:01:15 [Zakim]
+[IBM]
15:01:26 [Charlie]
zakim, [IBM] is Charlie
15:01:26 [Zakim]
+Charlie; got it
15:01:35 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
15:01:35 [Zakim]
On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie
15:01:37 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, markbirbeck, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
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+ +31.16.465.aaaa
15:01:50 [Blake]
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15:01:56 [Steven]
zakim, dial steven-617
15:01:56 [Zakim]
ok, Steven; the call is being made
15:01:57 [Nick]
zakim, i am +31
15:01:58 [Zakim]
+Nick; got it
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+Steven
15:02:01 [markbirbeck]
zakim, code?
15:02:03 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
15:02:13 [Nick]
zakim, mute me
15:02:13 [Zakim]
Nick should now be muted
15:02:37 [Zakim]
+Blake
15:02:54 [MarkS]
Having trouble dialling in
15:03:04 [klotz]
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zakim, code?
15:03:23 [Zakim]
the conference code is 36767 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
15:03:41 [Zakim]
+Leigh_Klotz
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+??P13
15:03:48 [John_Boyer]
Scribe: Leigh
15:03:53 [John_Boyer]
scribenick: klotz
15:04:14 [Zakim]
+??P18
15:04:25 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
15:04:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, Nick (muted), Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, ??P13, ??P18
15:04:27 [Zakim]
On IRC I see markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:04:45 [Zakim]
+jturner
15:05:13 [jturner]
zakim, mute me
15:05:13 [Zakim]
jturner should now be muted
15:05:38 [Steven]
zakim, mute ??P18
15:05:38 [Zakim]
??P18 should now be muted
15:06:01 [Steven]
zakim, ??p13 is MarkS
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+MarkS; got it
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zakim, ??P18 is markbirbeck
15:06:11 [Zakim]
+markbirbeck; got it
15:06:28 [Steven]
zakim, unmute markS
15:06:28 [Zakim]
MarkS was not muted, Steven
15:06:43 [Steven]
zakim, unmute markbitbeck
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sorry, Steven, I do not know which phone connection belongs to markbitbeck
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ack markb
15:07:43 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
15:07:43 [Zakim]
On the phone I see wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, Nick (muted), Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, MarkS, markbirbeck, jturner (muted)
15:07:45 [Zakim]
On IRC I see markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Charlie, Nick, MarkS, jturner, John_Boyer, wellsk, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
15:08:03 [markbirbeck]
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15:08:09 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0046.html
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15:11:12 [lars]
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+??P27
15:12:05 [lars]
zakim, lars is ??P27
15:12:05 [Zakim]
sorry, lars, I do not recognize a party named 'lars'
15:12:13 [lars]
zakim, ??P27 is lars
15:12:13 [Zakim]
+lars; got it
15:12:21 [lars]
sorry for being late
15:15:46 [Nick]
zakim, unmute me
15:15:46 [Zakim]
Nick should no longer be muted
15:17:01 [Nick]
zakim, mute me
15:17:01 [Zakim]
Nick should now be muted
15:17:04 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose
15:19:08 [Nick]
can't we depricate if then?
15:19:26 [Nick]
in xforms 1.1?
15:19:35 [John_Boyer]
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-if
15:19:37 [Steven]
good idea
15:19:50 [Steven]
so there should be a comment in the section on if()
15:19:59 [Steven]
Oh!
15:20:04 [Steven]
It is already deprecated
15:21:38 [klotz]
Steven: This function provides a replacement for the if() function that uses objects instead of strings.
15:23:12 [Nick]
zakim, unmute me
15:23:12 [Zakim]
Nick should no longer be muted
15:24:27 [Nick]
zakim, mute me
15:24:27 [Zakim]
Nick should now be muted
15:25:40 [klotz]
ACTION: John Boyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:25:40 [trackbot-ng]
Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - John
15:25:40 [trackbot-ng]
Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. jkugelma, jboyer)
15:26:13 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2007Aug/0038.html
15:26:16 [Steven]
ACTION: JohnBoyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:26:16 [trackbot-ng]
Sorry, couldn't find user - JohnBoyer
15:26:20 [klotz]
RESOLUTION: For XForms 1.1 we deprecate if, make choose return objects, and make the minor editorial changes to choose.
15:26:22 [Steven]
damn
15:26:35 [Steven]
ACTION: jboyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples.
15:26:35 [trackbot-ng]
Created ACTION-393 - Make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples. [on John Boyer - due 2007-08-22].
15:27:07 [Steven]
action 1=
15:27:12 [Steven]
action 2=
15:28:53 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:29:04 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: lars (9%), Steven (4%)
15:34:06 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:34:06 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:35:35 [Steven]
zakim, who is noisy?
15:35:47 [Zakim]
Steven, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: markbirbeck (9%)
15:36:46 [lars]
zakim, mute me
15:36:46 [Zakim]
lars should now be muted
15:40:09 [Steven]
ack me
15:43:27 [Steven]
zakim, mute me
15:43:27 [Zakim]
Steven should now be muted
15:44:48 [Nick]
I think that in chiba it aren't seperate dom's
15:47:59 [jturner]
+1
15:50:37 [John_Boyer]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms/2007Aug/0000.html
15:53:05 [markbirbeck]
q+
15:53:15 [John_Boyer]
ack markbirbeck
15:53:15 [Steven]
ack mark
15:56:16 [klotz]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-forms/2002JulSep/0277.html
16:00:09 [lars]
zakim, unmute me
16:00:18 [Zakim]
lars should no longer be muted
16:01:55 [klotz]
Lars you also have to allow replace=instance to modify readonly nodes ;-)
16:02:03 [Steven]
ack me
16:03:12 [Nick]
bye
16:03:13 [jturner]
bye
16:03:24 [Zakim]
-markbirbeck
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-Leigh_Klotz
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-Steven
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-Charlie
16:03:37 [wellsk]
wellsk has left #forms
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-Blake
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-John_Boyer
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-wellsk
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-jturner
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-lars
16:04:08 [Zakim]
-MarkS
16:04:30 [John_Boyer]
zakim, who is here?
16:04:30 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Nick
16:04:32 [Zakim]
On IRC I see lars, markbirbeck, klotz, Blake, Nick, jturner, John_Boyer, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot-ng
16:04:41 [John_Boyer]
zakim, disconnect Nick
16:04:41 [Zakim]
Nick is being disconnected
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HTML_Forms()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were wellsk, John_Boyer, Charlie, +31.16.465.aaaa, Nick, Steven, Blake, Leigh_Klotz, jturner, MarkS, markbirbeck, lars
16:04:58 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
16:05:18 [John_Boyer]
rrsagent, bye
16:05:18 [RRSAgent]
I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-25-40
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ACTION: [2]
16:05:18 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-26-16
16:05:18 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: jboyer to make wording changes in http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#fn-choose to amends notes, first sentence of description, and add notes as described in minutes and look for occurrences of if() throughout spec, including examples. [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/15-forms-irc#T15-26-35