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12:19:58 <Christophe> zakim, what conferences?
12:19:58 <Zakim> I see ARCH_Team()8:00AM active
12:19:59 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time are WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM, UW_Team()8:00AM
12:20:11 <Christophe> zakim, this will be WAI_TSDTF
12:20:11 <Zakim> ok, Christophe; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
12:20:22 <Christophe> Meeting: TSD TF
12:20:38 <Christophe> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Aug/0001.html
12:20:55 <Christophe> Chair: CarlosV, Christophe
12:21:21 <Christophe> Agenda+ Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft:
12:22:42 <Christophe> Regrets: CarlosI, Shadi, Tim
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12:32:47 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
12:32:53 <Zakim> +CarlosV
12:33:18 <Zakim> +Cooper
12:33:30 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
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12:34:01 <Zakim> +Vangelis_Karkaletsis
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12:35:34 <Zakim> + +43.702.4aaaa
12:35:48 <Christophe> zakim, +43 is Reinhard
12:35:48 <Zakim> +Reinhard; got it
12:36:38 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
12:37:00 <Christophe> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:37:00 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft:" taken up [from Christophe]
12:37:07 <MichaelC> agenda?
12:37:15 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
12:37:15 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft:" taken up [from Christophe]
12:38:07 <MichaelC> cs: a number of test cases have been migrated with scripts
12:38:13 <MichaelC> ... so far 57
12:38:20 <MichaelC> ... need to start structure review
12:40:10 <MichaelC> rr: have begun uploading, still working out the kinks
12:40:46 <MichaelC> ... what about tests that are already in wiki?
12:41:08 <MichaelC> cs: will need to be updated to new id and test filenames
12:41:22 <MichaelC> ... won't be removed from repository
12:42:46 <MichaelC> cv: why can't remove tests?
12:43:02 <MichaelC> mc: URI persistence policy, need to not break links etc.
12:43:09 <MichaelC> cv: have a deprecated status?
12:43:26 <MichaelC> cs: have rejected, but for WG rejects
12:43:36 <MichaelC> ... could add a status
12:45:10 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: create status "deprecated" and apply to tests that are no longer valid
12:45:27 <Christophe> Test samples for SC 2.5.1: sc2.5.1_l1_002 and sc2.5.1_l1_003
12:45:38 <Christophe> ... and sc2.5.1_l1_004
12:48:55 <MichaelC> mc: why using SC number instead of filename instead of ID, leading to this need to change?
12:49:57 <MichaelC> cs: inherited from Bentoweb
12:54:24 <MichaelC> mc: propose we not worry about the tests whose IDs need to change until can discuss URI persistence with Shadi; continue uploading knowing might change IDs (automatable)
12:56:12 <MichaelC> cs: next step is to start structure review process
12:57:31 <MichaelC> rr: what about test cases that need jsp?
12:57:38 <MichaelC> mc: unsure status of action checking with systeam
12:58:14 <MichaelC> cs: need clear idea of where Java server needs to run, maintenance, etc.
12:58:34 <MichaelC> action: MichaelC to investigate JSP server with Systeam
13:00:27 <MichaelC> mc: may need to hold back on uploading these test cases until we know
13:00:46 <MichaelC> cs: roughly 20 / 466 test cases
13:01:46 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
13:02:00 <MichaelC> cs: have found issues with some of the tests, sent message to list
13:02:08 <MichaelC> ... would like them fixed, then can start review process
13:03:05 <MichaelC> cs: also have a bunch of test samples in the repository that need to be updated
13:03:35 <MichaelC> ... question of whether to wait to do review process until those are done, or do in parallel
13:03:39 <MichaelC> mc: propose in parallel
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13:04:06 <MichaelC> rr: ones that need updating, each submitter should update their own?
13:04:11 <MichaelC> cs, cv: yes
13:05:16 <MichaelC> RESOLUTION: everyone keep uploading test cases, except JSP and those without a testcase mapping
13:06:24 <MichaelC> topic: Review Process
13:06:54 <MichaelC> cs: Bentoweb people should check for issues in tests in repository
13:07:14 <MichaelC> ... non Bentoweb people start checking tests submitted earlier, against previous WD of WCAG
13:09:29 <MichaelC> cv: can we get WCAG WG members to help?
13:09:34 <MichaelC> mc: might be able to ask a few people
13:09:45 <MichaelC> action: MichaelC to ask selected members of WCAG WG to help with review process
13:11:56 <MichaelC> mc: how is review conducted?
13:12:07 <MichaelC> cv, cs: update wiki, also should send note to mailing list
13:12:29 <MichaelC> cv: document says to notify author only
13:12:34 <MichaelC> ... propose also notify list
13:13:44 <MichaelC> mc: which tests are the older tests that are ready for review?
13:13:48 <MichaelC> cs: can make a list
13:15:11 <MichaelC> action: Christophe to create list of tests ready for review
13:15:42 <MichaelC> mc: recommend dividing blocks of tests assigned to "reviewer 1, reviewer 2" etc. and plugging reviewers into those slots
13:16:30 <MichaelC> action: Christophe to divide list of tests by proposed reviewer
13:17:32 <MichaelC> mc: reluctant to commit to doing review because covering for Ben, but will try to find others
13:17:39 <MichaelC> ... Tim, can do a batch?
13:17:41 <MichaelC> tb: yes
13:19:08 <MichaelC> mc: need to chase reviewers to make sure they get their review done for next meeting
13:19:12 <MichaelC> cv: can chase once get names
13:19:17 <MichaelC> mc: chase me for names if needed
13:20:28 <MichaelC> tb: these are structure reviews or content reviews?
13:20:31 <MichaelC> cs: structure
13:21:50 <Zakim> -Vangelis_Karkaletsis
13:21:52 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
13:21:52 <Zakim> -Reinhard
13:21:55 <Zakim> -Cooper
13:21:56 <Zakim> -CarlosV
13:21:57 <Vangelis> Vangelis has left #tsdtf
13:22:01 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:22:02 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:22:03 <Zakim> Attendees were CarlosV, Cooper, Christophe_Strobbe, Vangelis_Karkaletsis, +43.702.4aaaa, Reinhard, Tim_Boland
13:22:23 <Christophe> Regrets: CarlosI, Shadi
13:23:38 <Christophe> zakim, bye
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13:23:48 <Christophe> rrsagent, make log world
13:24:10 <Christophe> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-minutes.html Christophe
13:27:13 <Christophe> rrsagent, bye
13:27:13 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
13:27:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MichaelC to investigate JSP server with Systeam [1]
13:27:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-irc#T12-58-34
13:27:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MichaelC to ask selected members of WCAG WG to help with review process [2]
13:27:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-irc#T13-09-45
13:27:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Christophe to create list of tests ready for review [3]
13:27:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-irc#T13-15-11
13:27:13 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Christophe to divide list of tests by proposed reviewer [4]
13:27:13 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/14-tsdtf-irc#T13-16-30