IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-08-09
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-wai-wcag-irc
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- meeting: WAI WCAG
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0060.html
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- regrets: Tim_Boland, Nikolaos_Floratos, Ben_Caldwell(implied)
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- +Cooper
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- +??P13
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- +David_MacDonald
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- + +1.617.219.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.617 is Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- +Andrew_Kirkpatrick; got it
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +??P6
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- zakim, ??P6 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- +??P8
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- Zakim, ??P8 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 2. "2 Aug 2007 Proposals <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070802proposals/results>" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- scribe: Christophe
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- Resoluation: issues 2060, 2119 accepted with unanimous consent
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- Topic: Issue 2231: Is SC 2.4.9 testable?
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +[Microsoft]
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- zakim, Microsoft is Sean_Hayes
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- +Sean_Hayes; got it
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- +??P9
- 20:21:35 [David_MacDonald]
- zakim, who's making noise?
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- David_MacDonald, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sean_Hayes (71%)
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- q+
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- q-
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- ack b
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- Action: David to see if we can increase testability of SC 2.4.9 (issues 2231 and 2169)
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- Topic: Issue 2097: Which SC covers frame names?
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- Resolution: issue 2097 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2326: deprecate use of frames
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- Resolution: issue 2326 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2358: There is no SC governing the visibility of focus
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- Resolution: create a new success criterion at level AA about focus visibility
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- Action: Loretta to propose a success criterion regarding focus visibility .. (issue 2358)
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- Topic: Issue 2339: testing 4.1.1
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- Resolution: issue 2339 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2250: Transcript = text allows no captions
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- full text alternative for multimedia including any interaction
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- Resolution: issue 2250 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2355: Audio CAPTCHAs
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- Resolution: issue 2355 accepted with Ben's edits
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- Topic: Issue 2286: contradiction between subprovisions
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- Resolution: issue 2286 accepted as proposed.
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- Topic: Issue 2043: UA bug on object
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- Resolution: leave issue 2043 open.
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- zakim, next item
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- agendum 3. "09 Aug 2007 Proposals <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/2070809survey/results>" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 21:36:33 [Loretta]
- 2310, 2148, 2266
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- Resolution: issues 2310, 2148, 2266 accepted with unanimous consent
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- Topic: Issue 2093: labels and names
- 21:40:16 [Loretta]
- If it is any of the following, then text alternatives at least identify the non-text content with a descriptive text label: multimedia, live audio-only or live video-only content, a test or exercise that must be presented in non-text format, or content primarily intended to create a specific sensory experience. (For multimedia, see also Guideline 1.2.)
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- Resolution: issue 2093 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2130: Can SC 1.3.2 ever fail?
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- ack sofia
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- +??P5
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- Action: Sean to bring forward his concern about SC 1.3.2 and 2.4.3 (SC 2.4.3 not needed because of SC 1.3.2?).
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- -Drew_LaHart
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- I need to cut out.
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- -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
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- Resolution: issue 2130 accepted as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2030: use of shape
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- ack s
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- Resolution: accept issue 2030 as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2203: just applicable to "instructions"?
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- Resolution: accept issue 2203 as amended.
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- Topic: Issue 2262: resizing of form controls
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- Resolution: leave issue 2262 open
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- Topic: Issue 2111: Text resizing
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- Resolution: send back issue 2111
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- Topic: Issue 2356: remove SC 1.4.7 (Reflow)
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- Resolution: leave issue 2356 open.
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- Next meeting: pick up this survey starting at Issue 2263: "Contrast ratio" definition and user-selected colours.
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -David_MacDonald
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- -Cooper
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- zakim, who's on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Bengt_Farre, Sean_Hayes, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- zakim, drop beng
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- Bengt_Farre is being disconnected
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- zakim, drop sean
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- Sean_Hayes is being disconnected
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- zakim, drop kaite
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- sorry, MichaelC, I do not see a party named 'kaite'
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- zakim, drop katie
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- Katie_Haritos-Shea is being disconnected
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, David_MacDonald, +1.617.219.aaaa, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Andi_Snow-Weaver, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre,
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- ... Christophe_Strobbe, Roberto_Ellero, Sean_Hayes, Drew_LaHart, Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: David to see if we can increase testability of SC 2.4.9 (issues 2231 and 2169) [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T20-39-01
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- ACTION: Loretta to propose a success criterion regarding focus visibility .. (issue 2358) [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T21-02-00
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- ACTION: Sean to bring forward his concern about SC 1.3.2 and 2.4.3 (SC 2.4.3 not needed because of SC 1.3.2?). [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-wai-wcag-irc#T22-00-28