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18:02:18 <trackbot-ng> Zakim, this will be SMLWG
18:02:18 <Zakim> ok, trackbot-ng, I see XML_SMLWG()2:00PM already started
18:02:20 <trackbot-ng> Meeting: Service Modeling Language Working Group Teleconference
18:02:22 <trackbot-ng> Date: 09 August 2007
18:02:23 <Zakim> + +1.530.823.aabb
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18:03:25 <Zakim> +Valentina
18:03:26 <plh> zakim, aaaa is Jim
18:03:29 <Zakim> +Jim; got it
18:03:36 <Zakim> +??P8
18:03:57 <plh> zakim, aabb is Ginny
18:03:57 <Zakim> +Ginny; got it
18:04:03 <plh> zakim, passcode?
18:04:03 <Zakim> the conference code is 76594 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), plh
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18:04:38 <plh> zakim, ??p8 is Marv
18:04:38 <Zakim> +Marv; got it
18:04:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
18:05:25 <plh> zakim, Microsoft holds Pratul
18:05:25 <Zakim> +Pratul; got it
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18:05:36 <plh> scribeNick: Marv
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18:05:52 <plh> Chair: Pratul
18:07:31 <plh> Present: Kirk, Jim, Sandy, Plh, Ginny, Jordan, Valentina, Marv, Pratul
18:07:47 <Marv> Minutes not showing up in archive.
18:08:07 <plh> Regrets: John
18:08:41 <Marv> Minutes accepted.
18:08:54 <plh> Previous minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007Aug/att-0029/sml-wg-minutes-2007-08-02.html
18:09:19 <plh> Topic: Review of action items
18:10:09 <MSM> /me regrets
18:10:42 <plh> regrets+ MSM
18:10:56 <Marv> AI 93 closed
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18:12:35 <plh> Present+ Kumar
18:13:03 <plh> zakim, Microsoft.a holds Kumar
18:13:03 <Zakim> +Kumar; got it
18:13:24 <Marv> AI 106 Marv will send note to public list
18:13:31 <plh> Topic: Triage of the bugs
18:16:24 <Marv> Bug 656 Defer to 2nd Draft? 
18:17:25 <Marv> Kirk: What are issues?
18:18:26 <Marv> Pratul: Challenging to insure the every time the model is updated, it is intact.
18:19:07 <Marv> Valentina: Issue is not limited to RDBMS
18:20:10 <Marv> Valentina: Revalidation is always a problem.
18:20:42 <Marv> Kumar: Scaling issue.
18:21:42 <Marv> Pratul: When should we respond?
18:22:00 <Marv> General agreement: 2nd Draft.
18:22:11 <plh> Regrets+ Zulah
18:22:16 <plh> Regrets+ Paul
18:22:43 <Marv> Bug 4567
18:24:30 <Marv> Kumar: When evaluating constraints, find targ set, the evaluate, if self references, work can become exponentially high
18:25:36 <Marv> Pratul: May be ok because there are no real scenarios.
18:26:32 <Marv> Kumar: If we leave out now, easy to fix later. Put in now, hard to fix later.
18:27:59 <Marv> Sandy: Do we need schema group views?
18:28:58 <Marv> Pratul: good to get their feedback.
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18:29:15 <Marv> Genera l agreement: 2nd draft
18:29:50 <Zakim> -Jim
18:29:52 <Marv> Bug 4658
18:30:32 <Marv> Pratul: suggest 2nd draft
18:30:48 <Marv> General agreement: 2nd Draft
18:31:09 <Zakim> +Jim
18:31:11 <Marv> Bug: 4665
18:35:21 <Marv> Pratul: 2d draft
18:35:32 <Marv> General agreement: 2d draft
18:35:58 <Marv> Bug 4686
18:36:16 <Marv> Pratul: Duplicate?
18:37:38 <Marv> Ginny: 4652 is similar
18:38:10 <Marv> Pratul: 4686 is dup of 4652
18:38:32 <Marv> Bug 4673
18:42:57 <Marv> Discussion from Sandy and Kumar. Issue present, needs resolution.
18:43:15 <Marv> General agreement: 2d Draft
18:43:48 <Marv> Bug 4676
18:46:21 <Marv> Discussion from Ginny, Pratul -- unclear what bug is
18:46:40 <Marv> General agreement: 2d draft
18:46:45 <Marv> bug 4679
18:48:08 <Marv> General agreement: 2d draft
18:48:17 <Marv> Bug 4682
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18:53:55 <Marv> Kumar proposes a change that would eliminate this issue automatically.
18:54:23 <Marv> Related to another issue.
18:54:39 <Marv> General Agreement: 2d Draft
18:54:58 <Marv> Bug 4683
18:58:09 <Marv> General agreement: 2d Draft
18:58:17 <Marv> Bug 4684
18:58:47 <Marv> General agreement: 2d Draft
18:59:14 <Marv> Bug 4686
19:06:30 <Marv> General agreement: 2d Draft
19:08:14 <Marv> Valentina: F2F notice on Group/SML page
19:08:54 <plh> Topic: IRI
19:14:08 <Marv> Phillip and Marv: No problem in Java. Does not explicitly in support IRI, but conversion and comparison consonant with rfc
19:22:13 <Marv> Kumar: The issue is whether we are requiring IRI support or permitting IRI support
19:33:44 <Marv> action item: to kumar to clarify C# support of IRI
19:41:03 <Sandy> For the record. In schema 1.1: "[Definition:]   anyURI represents an Internationalized Resource Identifier Reference (IRI)".
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19:44:16 <plh> "http://&#x7D0D;&#x8C46;.example.org/%E2%80%AE"
19:44:26 <plh> "http://xn--99zt52a.example.org/%e2%80%ae"
19:44:58 <Marv> Extensive discussion of meaning of IRI v URI implementation and requirements
19:47:41 <Marv> Ginny: Discussion important for SML-IF but nto necessary for SML
19:53:32 <Marv> Will continue discussion in another meeting after Kumar returns with clarification of C# implementation
19:54:03 <Marv> topic: Return to bugs
19:54:51 <Marv> Bug 4687
19:55:18 <Marv> Dup 4562
19:55:24 <Marv> 2d Draft
19:55:30 <Marv> Bug 4688
19:57:16 <Marv> General Agreement: 2d draft
19:57:38 <Marv> Bug 4693
19:59:03 <Marv> General Agreement: 2d draft
19:59:37 <Marv> Bug 4739
19:59:52 <Marv> General Agreement:  2d draft
20:00:50 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
20:00:51 <Zakim> -Plh
20:00:52 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
20:00:53 <Zakim> -Valentina
20:00:54 <Zakim> -Jordan
20:00:55 <Zakim> -Sandy
20:00:56 <Zakim> -Kirk
20:00:58 <Zakim> -Marv
20:00:58 <Zakim> -Ginny
20:00:59 <Zakim> -Jim
20:01:01 <Zakim> XML_SMLWG()2:00PM has ended
20:01:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Kirk, +1.484.239.aaaa, Sandy, Plh, +1.530.823.aabb, Jordan, Valentina, Jim, Ginny, Marv, Pratul, [Microsoft], Kumar
20:01:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/09-sml-minutes.html plh
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