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14:00:20 <ShaneM> rrsagent, make public 
14:00:20 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make public ', ShaneM.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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14:02:08 <alessio> zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
14:02:08 <Zakim> sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
14:02:23 <alessio> zakim, +??P8 is Alessio
14:02:23 <Zakim> sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+??P8'
14:02:23 <ShaneM>  rrsagent, make record public
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14:02:51 <yamx> Zakim, +??P9 is yamx
14:02:51 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9'
14:03:08 <yamx> Oh!
14:03:20 <yamx> Zakim, +P9 is yamx
14:03:20 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named '+P9'
14:03:27 <ShaneM>  rrsagent, make logs public
14:04:02 <yamx> Last week, Roland failed to initiate Zakim.
14:04:57 <yamx> Zakim, ??P9 is yamx
14:04:57 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
14:05:15 <alessio> Zakim, ??P8 is Alessio
14:05:15 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
14:05:51 <Roland_> Zakim, +0138687aaaa is Roland
14:05:51 <Zakim> +Roland; got it
14:06:01 <ShaneM>  rrsagent, make logs world-visible
14:07:48 <ShaneM>  Topic: M12N and XML Schema
14:08:34 <ShaneM>  Held over...
14:08:42 <ShaneM>  Topic: xml:base and M12N
14:10:01 <ShaneM>  This was discussed briefly in the last call.  There is a "base" element already.
14:11:43 <ShaneM>  Shane is afraid that adding xml:base will mean we need to issue a new XHTML 1.x.
14:12:23 <ShaneM>  Roland says we have two options: go through a rec process for M12N etc. or just do it in XHTML 2.
14:12:28 <ShaneM>  Carried forward.
14:12:35 <ShaneM>  Topic: XML Schema implementation for XHTML 2.0
14:15:33 <ShaneM>  Shane suggests that we need to take the existing schema implementation for xhtml m12n 1 and tweak it.
14:15:50 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Shane to start implementing xml schema for xhtml 2.0
14:16:14 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Roland to respond to UWA WG and say yes, we are producing a schema.  We do not yet have a schedule.
14:16:47 <ShaneM>  Topic: Do not deprecate the profile attribute
14:18:08 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0037.html
14:20:36 <Roland_> a reply was sent: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0039.html
14:21:20 <ShaneM>  Shane thinks that reply is accurate.
14:21:52 <ShaneM>  The question is: do we really want to get rid of profile?  GRDDL really wants to use it.  Was the original deprecation of it in XHTML 1 a good idea?
14:23:05 <ShaneM>  The profile attribute seeme to be used by the microformat community too
14:23:59 <ShaneM>  Example: http://microformats.org/wiki/xmdp-brainstorming
14:25:29 <ShaneM>  Shane thinks we should expand the collection of "rel" values to permit microformat relationship.  We should ask people who care?
14:26:54 <ShaneM>  Carry this forward as a future agenda item "Use cases for a profile attribute" or some such.
14:27:38 <ShaneM>  Topic: Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup
14:27:41 <ShaneM>  Skipped for this week.
14:30:05 <ShaneM>  Topic: XHTML M12N
14:30:06 <Roland_> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Group/2007/xhtml-modularization-11-implementation
14:30:19 <Roland_> Prose vs implementation
14:31:34 <ShaneM>  Latest draft of M12N is at: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-modularization-20070404/
14:34:54 <ShaneM>  Who is the audience for this?  What is hanging fire?
14:35:14 <Roland_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0047
14:35:24 <ShaneM>  Shane says XHTML 1.1 needs updating and needs to use XML Schema, and XHTML Print could use a schema implementation too.
14:36:37 <ShaneM>  Other topic is "what takes precedence, prose or implementation?"
14:37:57 <ShaneM>  Shane things prose / abstract module definitions take precedence.
14:42:06 <ShaneM>  s/things/thinks/
14:43:51 <ShaneM>  RDFa task force is public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
14:47:18 <Zakim> -Alessio
14:48:07 <alessio> sorry, trying to reconnect
14:50:28 <Zakim> +??P0
14:50:43 <alessio> Zakim, ??P0 is Alessio
14:50:43 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
14:53:53 <ShaneM>  Went over a bunch of things about our outstanding work.  No resolutions.
14:54:10 <ShaneM>  rrsagent, make minutes
14:54:19 <ShaneM>  RRSAgent, make minutes
14:55:02 <Zakim> -ShaneM
14:55:08 <Zakim> -Alessio
14:55:10 <Zakim> -yamx
14:55:11 <Zakim> -Roland
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14:55:13 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, yamx, Alessio, Roland
14:56:24 <ShaneM>  RRSAgent, please make the minutes
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15:00:01 <anne> RRSAgent, draft minutes
15:00:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/08-xhtml-minutes.html anne
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