IRC log of er on 2007-08-01
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc
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- 13:52:30 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be ert
- 13:52:30 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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- Meeting: ERT WG
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0054.html
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- chair: Shadi
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- agenda+ Inferred test results
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- agenda+ Changes on earl:Content class
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- agenda+ Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide
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- agenda+ Requirements for Pointer Methods in RDF
- 13:59:56 [Reinhard]
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +Dialer
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- -Dialer
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- +Shadi
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- +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
- 14:04:45 [CarlosV]
- zakim, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas is really CarlosV
- 14:04:45 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV; got it
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- + +43.702.468.aaaa
- 14:05:22 [shadi]
- zakim, aaaa is really Reinhard
- 14:05:22 [Zakim]
- +Reinhard; got it
- 14:09:08 [shadi]
- scribe: Reinhard
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Inferred test results" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:09:33 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0052
- 14:09:43 [shadi]
- earl:inferred
- 14:11:21 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Discussion was to remove it, but its not really a modifier. Base for discussion is the example of my post to the mailinglist
- 14:12:16 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Is arguing to have earl:infered as a test result
- 14:13:53 [Reinhard]
- RR: I think option B would be a good solution
- 14:15:24 [Reinhard]
- CV: When looking at test results it doesn't matter how the tests were executed
- 14:16:23 [Reinhard]
- CV: test result vs. test mode
- 14:19:08 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: I assume that "inferred" as term is not adequate
- 14:20:47 [Reinhard]
- CV: I propose to leave it out completly
- 14:21:03 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: This doesn't seem to be agood choice to me
- 14:21:38 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: How about "composite" as term?
- 14:22:43 [Reinhard]
- CV: I want to know if the test has been executed manual or automatic
- 14:23:25 [Reinhard]
- CV: It doesn't make sense to aggregate test modes
- 14:26:55 [Reinhard]
- RR: At the test summary in the report it makes sense to see at least how the test was executed
- 14:28:48 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Many tools do not give information on the test cases but only on results
- 14:31:01 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Keep it for further discussion on the list
- 14:31:39 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:31:39 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Changes on earl:Content class" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:31:59 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-EARL10-Schema-20070323/#content
- 14:32:11 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#cont
- 14:32:32 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0053
- 14:32:47 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/doc/identify.html
- 14:33:40 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: A lot has been discussed about describing resources
- 14:35:43 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Information is the same, but, presentation of the resources can chang due to content negotiation issues
- 14:38:07 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Example: Viewing www.google.com with a Web-Broser vs. a Cell Phone --> Both is still the search page (Information) but different presentation
- 14:43:28 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: We need to re-think our terms
- 14:45:15 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-webarch-20041215/#def-information-resource
- 14:46:36 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Terms like "resource" have a formal definition and wen need to keep that in mind
- 14:49:12 [Reinhard]
- CV: sourceCopy can be used with XML but not with HTML, so we need to be carefult with what we recomend
- 14:51:28 [shadi]
- action: SAZ remove xml:lang="en" from example 13 (shouldn't be in the literal but in the XHTML itself)
- 14:54:26 [Reinhard]
- CV: Discussion on Issue #9
- 14:55:57 [Reinhard]
- CV: Use byte64 Literals instead of dataURI
- 14:56:15 [shadi]
- action: SAZ move issue #9 to EARL 1.0 Schema
- 14:57:16 [Reinhard]
- SAZ: Issue #10 seems to be editorial
- 14:57:58 [shadi]
- action: SAZ make issue #10 editorial and change accordingly
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- -Reinhard
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- -Shadi
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- -CarlosV
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Dialer, Shadi, CarlosV, +43.702.468.aaaa, Reinhard
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #er
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-minutes.html shadi
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
- 15:07:28 [RRSAgent]
- I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: SAZ remove xml:lang="en" from example 13 (shouldn't be in the literal but in the XHTML itself) [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-51-28
- 15:07:28 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: SAZ move issue #9 to EARL 1.0 Schema [2]
- 15:07:28 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-56-15
- 15:07:28 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: SAZ make issue #10 editorial and change accordingly [3]
- 15:07:28 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/01-er-irc#T14-57-58