IRC log of dawg on 2007-07-31

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14:09:01 [LeeF]

zakim, this will be dawg

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ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes

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Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly

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Chair: LeeF

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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0042.html

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agenda + Convene

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agenda + action items

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agenda + tests (construct, dataset, graph, i18n, offset, limit, ask)

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agenda + features, facets, coverage

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agenda + test URIs

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agenda + test harness/service

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agenda + unanswered -comments messages

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agenda?

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ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES]

14:13:51 [LeeF]

ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES]

14:14:26 [LeeF]

ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES]

14:14:46 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES]

14:15:10 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES]

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ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [CONTINUES]

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ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [DONE]

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ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES]

14:16:19 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:integer and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES]

14:16:29 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES]

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ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved [DONE]

14:16:49 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl [DONE]

14:27:05 [LeeF]

Any regrets given last week?

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 7333 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF

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SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started

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+LeeF

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+??P13

14:28:22 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P13 is I

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+AndyS; got it

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+??P6

14:32:12 [iv_an_ru]

Zakim, ??P6 is I

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+iv_an_ru; got it

14:32:43 [ericP]

Zakim, please dial ericP-office

14:32:43 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; the call is being made

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+EricP

14:32:54 [iv_an_ru]

it almost work for me :(

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+??P14

14:33:37 [iv_an_ru]

Orri Erling indended to join us.

14:33:39 [LeeF]

zakim, who's on the phone?

14:33:39 [Zakim]

On the phone I see LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, EricP, ??P14

14:33:40 [ericP]

re SPARQL media types, note http://www.w3.org/mid/20070731143202.GC5187@w3.org

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-??P14

14:36:22 [LeeF]

iv_an_ru, are you still on the call or did you fall off?

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agenda?

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+Orri_Erling

14:40:22 [iv_an_ru]

LeeF, I hear but looks like I can't reply.

14:40:42 [LeeF]

ok, iv_an_ru, reply on IRC then :-)

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zakim, take up next agendum

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agendum 1. "Convene" taken up [from LeeF]

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Scribe: LeeF

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we're going to meet all of August

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LeeF: try to make it if you can, send regrets if you can't

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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/att-0031/24-dawg-minutes.htm minutes from 24 July

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approved

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next meeting August 7

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zakim, close this agendum

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agendum 1 closed

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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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2. action items [from LeeF]

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zakim, next agendum

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agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF]

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+Souri_Das

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zakim, close this agendum

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agendum 2 closed

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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:44:44 [LeeF]

zakim, next agendum

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3. tests (construct, dataset, graph, i18n, offset, limit, ask) [from LeeF]

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agendum 3. "tests (construct, dataset, graph, i18n, offset, limit, ask)" taken up [from LeeF]

14:45:17 [iv_an_ru]

Not the last version, sorry.

14:46:06 [iv_an_ru]

Correction: it works agains local installation, connecting to self via http://localhost/sparql/...

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(test harness discussion - works against local virtuoso installation)

14:46:35 [iv_an_ru]

It also has configuration pages to specify some other web service endpoint.

14:47:09 [iv_an_ru]

Aziz Baktiev intended to install a public beta at his home box, we'll see.

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+Chimezie_Ogbuji

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->http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0044.html Andy with substitute construct test

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LeeF: Andy made a change to test for blank node identifiers in the CONSTRUCT template

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... Glitter passes it

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PROPOSED: Approve changed CONSTRUCT test (query-reif-2.rq)

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AndyS seconds

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resolved

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ACTION: LeeF mark construct tests approved

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PROPOSED: Approve all of the dataset/ and graph/ tests

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chimezie seconds

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resolved

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ACTION: LeeF mark dataset and graphs tests approved

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PROPOSED: Approve all of the i18n tests

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ericP seconds

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resolved

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ACTION: LeeF mark i18n tests as approved

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/solution-seq/

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PROPOSED: Approve all of the solution-seq (limit and offset) tests

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ericP seconds

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resolved

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ACTION: ericP to run ASK tests 1, 4, and 7 by Aug 7

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zakim, close this agendum

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agendum 3 closed

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:57:55 [LeeF]

zakim, next agendum

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4. features, facets, coverage [from LeeF]

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agendum 4. "features, facets, coverage" taken up [from LeeF]

15:00:05 [ericP]

-> http://www.w3.org/XML/Query/test-suite/XQTSReportSimple XQuery impl summary

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ACTION: LeeF to propose a grouping of facets into higher level features

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note that XQuery had 3 tiers

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ACTION: chimezie to eyeball the algebraic forms and find any that do not have corresponding tests, attempt to do it by Aug 7

15:03:43 [ericP]

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets-coverage facet coverage report

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search for 39

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets-coverage#coverage

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ACTION: AndyS to write a BASE test

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ACTION: LeeF to write a SelectQuery-Distinct-star test

15:10:03 [AndyS]

We have tests for "spospo".

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets#BasicGraphPattern-spospo

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ACTION: LeeF to write a BasicGraphPattern-spoo test

15:11:35 [iv_an_ru]

(And test like filter (?xxx = $xxx)

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ACTION: LeeF to write a ?o/$o test

15:11:51 [AndyS]

Or even :s :p $o . :s :p ?o

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zakim, agenda?

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:

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4. features, facets, coverage [from LeeF]

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5. test URIs [from LeeF]

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6. test harness/service [from LeeF]

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7. unanswered -comments messages [from LeeF]

15:12:38 [ericP]

{http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/rq25#rPrefixedName

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-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/rq25#rPrefixedName PrefixedName

15:12:58 [iv_an_ru]

Briefly speaking, ?x $x _:o filter (?x=$x)

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type, ?x $x _:x filter (?x=$x)

15:15:48 [AndyS]

expr-builtin has str() tests

15:16:38 [AndyS]

LimitOffsetClauses-offset-limit is in solution-seq/

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translate(text(), "langmatches", "LANGMATCHES") = "LANGMATCHES"

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ACTION: ericP to eyeball the list of uncovered facets and prune ones that are covered

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lAnGMAtCheS

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ACTION: LeeF and ericP to write tests for uncovered facets

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets.ttl

15:34:59 [chimezie]

yacker:implicit-terminal?

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ACTION: ericP to answer "EBV of invalid numeric literals" email from Arjohn

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"foo"^^xsd:int

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agenda?

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We'll do agendum 5 first thing next week

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zakim, take up agendum 7

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agendum 7. "unanswered -comments messages" taken up [from LeeF]

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AndyS: do we have text for EBV of invalid numeric literals?

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ericP: maybe implicitly in interaction w/ RDF

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LeeF: I'm going to take a look at the SOAP message

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-Chimezie_Ogbuji

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-Souri_Das

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-Orri_Erling

15:40:33 [iv_an_ru]

Bye

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adjourned

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-iv_an_ru

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-EricP

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-LeeF

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-AndyS

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SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended

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Attendees were LeeF, AndyS, iv_an_ru, EricP, Orri_Erling, Souri_Das, Chimezie_Ogbuji

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RRSAgent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/31-dawg-minutes.html LeeF__

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RRSAgent, make logs world-access