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19:51:45 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
19:51:49 <MichaelC> meeting: WCAG
19:52:00 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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19:52:10 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0046.html
19:52:18 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -scribeOnly
19:53:45 <David_MacDonald> 009-71-50-382-1761 is my # apparently
19:54:34 <David_MacDonald> :-)
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19:57:35 <David_MacDonald> roberto ...Loretta can't get in with the # I gave... can you try... your a wiz on international stuff...
19:57:47 <rscano> ok
19:57:59 <rscano> i call zakim first
19:58:02 <rscano> then invite u
19:58:22 <David_MacDonald> sure   but I'mn not sure the # is working maybe just a test first
19:58:31 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
19:58:38 <Zakim> +??P0
19:58:45 <rscano> zakim, ??P0 is Roberto Scano
19:58:45 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P0 is Roberto Scano', rscano
19:59:02 <rscano> zakim, +??P0 is Roberto_Scano
19:59:02 <Zakim> sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P0'
19:59:10 <rscano> zakim, ??P0 is Roberto_Scano
19:59:10 <Zakim> +Roberto_Scano; got it
19:59:16 <rscano> zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
19:59:16 <Zakim> ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
19:59:35 <Zakim> +Cooper
20:00:37 <MichaelC> zakim, Roberto has David_MacDonald
20:00:37 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald; got it
20:00:39 <Zakim> + +1.240.855.aaaa
20:00:48 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
20:00:48 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
20:01:42 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:01:43 <Zakim> +??P6
20:01:45 <Zakim> +??P7
20:02:03 <MichaelC> zakim, ??P7 is Bengt_Farre
20:02:03 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:02:11 <rellero_> Zakim, ??P6 is Roberto_Ellero
20:02:11 <Zakim> +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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20:03:03 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:03:26 <Zakim> +??P9
20:03:29 <Ben> zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell
20:03:29 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
20:03:32 <Zakim> + +1.410.757.aabb
20:03:46 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
20:03:46 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
20:04:30 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:05:31 <MichaelC> scribe: Sofia
20:05:37 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
20:05:37 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:07:06 <Zakim> + +7.971.aacc
20:07:15 <MichaelC> zakim, +7 is Sean_Hayes
20:07:15 <Zakim> +Sean_Hayes; got it
20:07:52 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:08:24 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
20:09:18 <MichaelC> zakim, take up next item
20:09:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "9 July Proposals for 12 July 2007, starting at Issue 2029 <http://tinyurl.com/22vf62>" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:09:45 <Tim> Tim has joined #wai-wcag
20:10:00 <Sofia> topic: 2029
20:13:54 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:13:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland
20:13:57 <Zakim> Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald
20:14:05 <Ben> zakim, Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
20:14:05 <Zakim> +Alex_Li; got it
20:17:21 <David_MacDonald> i'm in
20:21:51 <David_MacDonald> i'll do it
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20:23:15 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: action item to David to update resolution for 2029 and understanding of 1.3.1 to indicate that providing info in text is not the prefered approach.
20:23:18 <Drew> Drew has left #wai-wcag
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20:24:47 <Sofia> topic: 2036
20:25:50 <Loretta> q+
20:28:38 <Loretta> ack l
20:29:37 <Loretta> ack b
20:31:55 <rscano> ok
20:32:01 <rscano> zakim, unmute me
20:32:01 <Zakim> Roberto_Scano should no longer be muted
20:32:23 <David_MacDonald> q+
20:33:15 <Loretta> ack d
20:34:12 <Sofia> q+
20:34:24 <Loretta> ack s
20:34:48 <Loretta> q+
20:36:03 <Loretta> ack l
20:36:31 <Ben> q+
20:36:52 <Loretta> ack b
20:37:04 <Loretta> ack bruce
20:37:09 <Loretta> q+ ben
20:37:42 <Sofia> q+ alex
20:38:28 <Loretta> ack ben
20:38:28 <Sofia> q+
20:39:18 <Loretta> ack a
20:40:51 <Loretta> ack s
20:43:36 <Sofia> ACTION: Sofia, Loretta, Gregg, David, Tim and Alex to discuss difference between conformance levels.
20:43:46 <Loretta> ack br
20:45:26 <Sofia> topic: 2081
20:48:06 <Sofia> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:48:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland
20:48:09 <Zakim> Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
20:48:11 <Zakim> Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald
20:53:31 <Ben> q+
20:53:44 <Loretta> ack b
20:56:27 <rscano> I respond for IWA: advisory
21:00:30 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
21:01:19 <Sofia> topic: 2074
21:03:50 <Loretta> ack b
21:03:55 <Loretta> ack br
21:05:58 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
21:07:26 <Sofia> topic: 2132
21:10:43 <Sofia> ACTION: Sean to write note for SC 2.2.3 about pausing not requiring buffering information.
21:13:35 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:14:16 <Sofia> topic: 2150
21:25:38 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:26:29 <Sofia> Topic: 2153
21:28:50 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
21:29:02 <Sofia> Topic: 2154
21:31:14 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:31:35 <Sofia> Topic: 2160
21:36:02 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
21:36:19 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070709proposals/results#x2160
21:40:37 <Sofia> ACTION: Drew to add proposed language to guideline about testing with users with disabilities
21:40:47 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:41:39 <Sofia> Topic: 2210
21:42:22 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:42:27 <Sofia> Topic: 2230
21:43:34 <Drew> q+
21:43:52 <Loretta> ack d
21:48:04 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
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21:50:01 <Drew> q+
21:50:14 <Loretta> ack d
21:52:41 <Sofia> ACTION: David to review understanding for SC 2.4.9 for clarity for HTML
21:53:32 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
21:53:46 <Sofia> Topic: 2252
21:53:49 <rscano> i must hang up. sorry. 
21:54:52 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
21:55:34 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
21:55:48 <Sofia> Topic: 2253
21:55:51 <David_MacDonald> roberto did you drop
21:55:58 <rscano> yep sorry
21:56:13 <rscano> i have end credit in skype
21:56:35 <David_MacDonald> anyone else dial me in its 2am but i'm willing to continue
21:56:50 <rscano> bengt if has skype can call u
21:57:05 <bengt> sure how
21:57:40 <rscano> make a conference and invite him
21:57:46 <David_MacDonald> Hi roberto did you just dial the number? 009-71-50-382-1761  could you give the steps
21:58:14 <rscano> if he has call the conference bridge, simple choose to add people to conference
21:58:18 <rscano> and add your phone number
21:58:38 <rscano> then david will pay to me and bengt two pizzas :)
21:58:44 <David_MacDonald> yup
21:59:59 <David_MacDonald> yup
22:00:07 <rscano> ok :)
22:00:24 <rscano> rscano solutions make dubai accessible :D
22:00:26 <David_MacDonald> thaks roberto you rock!
22:00:37 <rscano> bye
22:00:43 <David_MacDonald> bye
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22:03:25 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
22:03:53 <Drew> q+
22:05:07 <Sofia> ack d
22:05:24 <Sofia> Topic: 2259
22:09:34 <Zakim> -Roberto_Ellero
22:12:53 <Sofia> ACTION: Cynthia to write technique on alternative to user interface components
22:13:20 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as amended
22:13:45 <Sofia> Topic: 2306
22:16:19 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
22:16:51 <Sofia> Topic: 2321
22:19:31 <Sofia> q+ alex
22:20:35 <Sofia> q- alex
22:28:16 <Drew> q+
22:29:00 <Loretta> ack d
22:29:24 <Drew> * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is test by people...
22:30:14 <Drew>  * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is tested by people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content.
22:31:26 <Drew> * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is tested by those who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test.
22:33:30 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
22:33:58 <Sofia> Topic: 2325
22:47:13 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
22:47:46 <Sofia> Topic: 2334
22:47:58 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
22:49:14 <Sofia> Topic: 2061
22:52:37 <Ben> q+
22:53:09 <Loretta> ack b
22:53:50 <Sofia> ACTION: Sofia and David to look at possible AA level SC related to links and suggest sufficient techniques for advisory for 2.4.4
22:55:32 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: leave open
22:56:20 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
22:56:20 <Zakim> agendum 3. "10 July Proposals  for 12 July 2007 <http://tinyurl.com/3cs9dp>" taken up [from MichaelC]
22:57:04 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: unanimous consent for 2322, 2323, 2327, 2331, 2353.
22:57:29 <Sofia> Topic: 2034
23:04:39 <Sofia> RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
23:05:37 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
23:05:37 <David_MacDonald> funny
23:05:46 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
23:05:47 <Zakim> -Cooper
23:05:48 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
23:05:48 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
23:05:51 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
23:05:52 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
23:06:03 <Zakim> -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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23:07:03 <Ben> Present: Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelly
23:07:08 <Ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
23:07:08 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T23-07-08
23:07:20 <Ben> zakim, bye
23:07:20 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Cooper, David_MacDonald, +1.240.855.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Ellero, Alex_Li, Ben_Caldwell,
23:07:20 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wai-wcag
23:07:24 <Zakim> ... +1.410.757.aabb, Drew_LaHart, +7.971.aacc, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly
23:07:29 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sofia, Loretta, Gregg, David, Tim and Alex to discuss difference between conformance levels. [1]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-43-36
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sean to write note for SC 2.2.3 about pausing not requiring buffering information. [2]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-10-43
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Drew to add proposed language to guideline about testing with users with disabilities [3]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-40-37
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to review understanding for SC 2.4.9 for clarity for HTML [4]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-52-41
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Cynthia to write technique on alternative to user interface components [5]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T22-12-53
23:07:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sofia and David to look at possible AA level SC related to links and suggest sufficient techniques for advisory for 2.4.4 [6]
23:07:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T22-53-50