IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-07-26
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc
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- rrsagent, make log world
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- meeting: WCAG
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- chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007JulSep/0046.html
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- scribeOptions: -scribeOnly
- 19:53:45 [David_MacDonald]
- 009-71-50-382-1761 is my # apparently
- 19:54:34 [David_MacDonald]
- :-)
- 19:55:15 [Loretta]
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- 19:57:35 [David_MacDonald]
- roberto ...Loretta can't get in with the # I gave... can you try... your a wiz on international stuff...
- 19:57:47 [rscano]
- ok
- 19:57:59 [rscano]
- i call zakim first
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- then invite u
- 19:58:22 [David_MacDonald]
- sure but I'mn not sure the # is working maybe just a test first
- 19:58:31 [Zakim]
- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- +??P0
- 19:58:45 [rscano]
- zakim, ??P0 is Roberto Scano
- 19:58:45 [Zakim]
- I don't understand '??P0 is Roberto Scano', rscano
- 19:59:02 [rscano]
- zakim, +??P0 is Roberto_Scano
- 19:59:02 [Zakim]
- sorry, rscano, I do not recognize a party named '+??P0'
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- zakim, ??P0 is Roberto_Scano
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- +Roberto_Scano; got it
- 19:59:16 [rscano]
- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
- 19:59:16 [Zakim]
- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
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- +Cooper
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- zakim, Roberto has David_MacDonald
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- +David_MacDonald; got it
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- + +1.240.855.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey; got it
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- +??P6
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- +??P7
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- zakim, ??P7 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- Zakim, ??P6 is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- +Alex_Li
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- +??P9
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- zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- + +1.410.757.aabb
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- zakim, +1.410 is Drew_LaHart
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- +Drew_LaHart; got it
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- scribe: Sofia
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- zakim, take up item 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
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- + +7.971.aacc
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- zakim, +7 is Sean_Hayes
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- +Sean_Hayes; got it
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- +Tim_Boland
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- -Alex_Li
- 20:09:18 [MichaelC]
- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 2. "9 July Proposals for 12 July 2007, starting at Issue 2029 <http://tinyurl.com/22vf62>" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 20:09:45 [Tim]
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- topic: 2029
- 20:13:54 [Ben]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 20:13:54 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland
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- Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald
- 20:14:05 [Ben]
- zakim, Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
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- +Alex_Li; got it
- 20:17:21 [David_MacDonald]
- i'm in
- 20:21:51 [David_MacDonald]
- i'll do it
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- RESOLUTION: action item to David to update resolution for 2029 and understanding of 1.3.1 to indicate that providing info in text is not the prefered approach.
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- topic: 2036
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- q+
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- ack l
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- ack b
- 20:31:55 [rscano]
- ok
- 20:32:01 [rscano]
- zakim, unmute me
- 20:32:01 [Zakim]
- Roberto_Scano should no longer be muted
- 20:32:23 [David_MacDonald]
- q+
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- ack d
- 20:34:12 [Sofia]
- q+
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- ack s
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- q+
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- ack l
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- q+
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- ack b
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- ack bruce
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- q+ ben
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- q+ alex
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- ack ben
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- q+
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- ack a
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- ack s
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- ACTION: Sofia, Loretta, Gregg, David, Tim and Alex to discuss difference between conformance levels.
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- ack br
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- topic: 2081
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- zakim, who's on the phone?
- 20:48:06 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland
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- Sofia_Celic has Alex_Li
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- Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald
- 20:53:31 [Ben]
- q+
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- ack b
- 20:56:27 [rscano]
- I respond for IWA: advisory
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
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- topic: 2074
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- ack b
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- ack br
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
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- topic: 2132
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- ACTION: Sean to write note for SC 2.2.3 about pausing not requiring buffering information.
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- topic: 2150
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2153
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
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- Topic: 2154
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2160
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- +Cynthia_Shelly
- 21:36:19 [MichaelC]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070709proposals/results#x2160
- 21:40:37 [Sofia]
- ACTION: Drew to add proposed language to guideline about testing with users with disabilities
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2210
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2230
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- q+
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- ack d
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- -Tim_Boland
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- q+
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- ack d
- 21:52:41 [Sofia]
- ACTION: David to review understanding for SC 2.4.9 for clarity for HTML
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
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- Topic: 2252
- 21:53:49 [rscano]
- i must hang up. sorry.
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- -Roberto_Scano
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2253
- 21:55:51 [David_MacDonald]
- roberto did you drop
- 21:55:58 [rscano]
- yep sorry
- 21:56:13 [rscano]
- i have end credit in skype
- 21:56:35 [David_MacDonald]
- anyone else dial me in its 2am but i'm willing to continue
- 21:56:50 [rscano]
- bengt if has skype can call u
- 21:57:05 [bengt]
- sure how
- 21:57:40 [rscano]
- make a conference and invite him
- 21:57:46 [David_MacDonald]
- Hi roberto did you just dial the number? 009-71-50-382-1761 could you give the steps
- 21:58:14 [rscano]
- if he has call the conference bridge, simple choose to add people to conference
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- and add your phone number
- 21:58:38 [rscano]
- then david will pay to me and bengt two pizzas :)
- 21:58:44 [David_MacDonald]
- yup
- 21:59:59 [David_MacDonald]
- yup
- 22:00:07 [rscano]
- ok :)
- 22:00:24 [rscano]
- rscano solutions make dubai accessible :D
- 22:00:26 [David_MacDonald]
- thaks roberto you rock!
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- bye
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- bye
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- q+
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- ack d
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- Topic: 2259
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- ACTION: Cynthia to write technique on alternative to user interface components
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- RESOLUTION: accept as amended
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- Topic: 2306
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2321
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- q+ alex
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- q- alex
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- q+
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- ack d
- 22:29:24 [Drew]
- * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is test by people...
- 22:30:14 [Drew]
- * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is tested by people who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test the same content.
- 22:31:26 [Drew]
- * The same results should be obtained with a high level of confidence when the content is tested by those who understand how people with different types of disabilities use the Web test.
- 22:33:30 [Sofia]
- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
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- Topic: 2325
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
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- Topic: 2334
- 22:47:58 [Sofia]
- RESOLUTION: accept as proposed
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- Topic: 2061
- 22:52:37 [Ben]
- q+
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- ack b
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- ACTION: Sofia and David to look at possible AA level SC related to links and suggest sufficient techniques for advisory for 2.4.4
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- RESOLUTION: leave open
- 22:56:20 [MichaelC]
- zakim, next item
- 22:56:20 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "10 July Proposals for 12 July 2007 <http://tinyurl.com/3cs9dp>" taken up [from MichaelC]
- 22:57:04 [Sofia]
- RESOLUTION: unanimous consent for 2322, 2323, 2327, 2331, 2353.
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- Topic: 2034
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- RESOLUTION: accept proposal as amended
- 23:05:37 [Zakim]
- -Cynthia_Shelly
- 23:05:37 [David_MacDonald]
- funny
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Cooper
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Bruce_Bailey
- 23:05:52 [Zakim]
- -Sean_Hayes
- 23:06:03 [Zakim]
- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- 23:07:03 [Ben]
- Present: Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Ben_Caldwell, Drew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Roberto_Scano has David_MacDonald, Alex_Li, Cynthia_Shelly
- 23:07:08 [Ben]
- RRSAgent, pointer?
- 23:07:08 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T23-07-08
- 23:07:20 [Ben]
- zakim, bye
- 23:07:20 [Zakim]
- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Cooper, David_MacDonald, +1.240.855.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre, Roberto_Ellero, Alex_Li, Ben_Caldwell,
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- ... +1.410.757.aabb, Drew_LaHart, +7.971.aacc, Sean_Hayes, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly
- 23:07:29 [Ben]
- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Sofia, Loretta, Gregg, David, Tim and Alex to discuss difference between conformance levels. [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T20-43-36
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- ACTION: Sean to write note for SC 2.2.3 about pausing not requiring buffering information. [2]
- 23:07:29 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-10-43
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- ACTION: Drew to add proposed language to guideline about testing with users with disabilities [3]
- 23:07:29 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-40-37
- 23:07:29 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: David to review understanding for SC 2.4.9 for clarity for HTML [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T21-52-41
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- ACTION: Cynthia to write technique on alternative to user interface components [5]
- 23:07:29 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T22-12-53
- 23:07:29 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Sofia and David to look at possible AA level SC related to links and suggest sufficient techniques for advisory for 2.4.4 [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/26-wai-wcag-irc#T22-53-50