IRC log of dawg on 2007-07-24
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- 14:26:32 [RRSAgent]
- RRSAgent has joined #dawg
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-dawg-irc
- 14:26:38 [ericP]
- Zakim, this will be DAWG
- 14:26:38 [Zakim]
- ok, ericP; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
- 14:26:48 [AndyS]
- Scribe: AndyS
- 14:26:58 [AndyS]
- ScribeNick: AndyS
- 14:27:24 [ericP]
- agenda+ Review ACTION Items
- 14:27:40 [ericP]
- agenda+ Test overview page
- 14:27:49 [ericP]
- agenda+ EARL overview page
- 14:27:51 [Zakim]
- SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started
- 14:27:57 [Zakim]
- +??P0
- 14:27:59 [AndyS]
- zakim, ??P0 is me
- 14:27:59 [Zakim]
- +AndyS; got it
- 14:28:04 [ericP]
- agenda+ Soliciting implementation reports
- 14:28:14 [ericP]
- agenda+ Test progress
- 14:28:29 [ericP]
- agenda+ Test features
- 14:28:42 [ericP]
- agenda+ Test harness
- 14:28:49 [ericP]
- agenda?
- 14:29:49 [ericP]
- Zakim, please dial ericP-office
- 14:29:49 [Zakim]
- ok, ericP; the call is being made
- 14:29:51 [Zakim]
- +EricP
- 14:30:25 [chimezie]
- chimezie has joined #dawg
- 14:34:03 [ericP]
- chimezie, dialing in?
- 14:34:28 [AndyS]
- Hi folks - telecon time - who's dialing in today?
- 14:34:50 [iv_an_ru]
- I'm trying now
- 14:35:56 [chimezie]
- yes
- 14:36:28 [Zakim]
- +Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:36:33 [chimezie]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 14:36:33 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, EricP, Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 14:36:48 [ericP]
- chair: ericP
- 14:39:10 [AndyS]
- ACTION: LeeF to generate overview page of data-r2 tests [DONE]
- 14:39:19 [AndyS]
- ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations [DONE]
- 14:40:03 [AndyS]
- ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations [DONE]
- 14:40:12 [ericP]
- action -3
- 14:40:25 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES]
- 14:40:41 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:integer and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES]
- 14:40:56 [AndyS]
- ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES]
- 14:41:37 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES]
- 14:41:49 [AndyS]
- Chime: progress on action 7.
- 14:42:16 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP to requisition /TR/SPARQL as a switcher document pointing to the real specs [CONTINUES]
- 14:42:28 [AndyS]
- ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES]
- 14:42:46 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES]
- 14:42:58 [ericP]
- -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2007JulSep/0031 ericP checking with i18n-core
- 14:44:07 [AndyS]
- ACTION: LeeF to mark 10 distinct tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/distinct/manifest.ttl as approved [CONTINUES]
- 14:44:21 [AndyS]
- ACTION: LeeF to mark type promotion tests approved http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/type-promotion/manifest.ttl [CONTINUES]
- 14:44:33 [AndyS]
- ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES]
- 14:44:51 [AndyS]
- ACTION: Eric+Andy to identify and collect mf:requires URIs and put in documentation [CONTINUES]
- 14:45:04 [AndyS]
- ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES]
- 14:45:17 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 14:45:17 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Review ACTION Items" taken up [from ericP]
- 14:45:25 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up agendum 2
- 14:45:25 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Test overview page" taken up [from ericP]
- 14:46:28 [ericP]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/r2 DAWG Testcases overview
- 14:47:01 [ericP]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ old DAWG Testcases overview
- 14:48:08 [AndyS]
- AndyS: tests don't link to the URL of the test in the manifest
- 14:48:49 [Zakim]
- +??P13
- 14:49:10 [AndyS]
- AndyS: do we want the overview page to give/link of the test?
- 14:49:31 [AndyS]
- EricP: we have two URLs for a test - manifest and overview doc.
- 14:49:35 [chimezie]
- We could use a section describing the naming convention for tests (used in test reporting: EARL)
- 14:50:48 [AndyS]
- Regrets: LeeF, Souri
- 14:52:21 [AndyS]
- EricP: Have a "manifest.html" and use content neg. More work.
- 14:53:57 [AndyS]
- ... chime had @prefix _7: <http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/graph/manifest.ttl#>
- 14:54:14 [AndyS]
- ... so it's the manifest.ttl# version :-(
- 14:56:41 [AndyS]
- ... coudl clean up but there are other tasks to do as well.
- 14:56:52 [AndyS]
- s/coudl/could/
- 14:57:05 [AndyS]
- EricP: report discussion back to LeeF
- 14:57:13 [ericP]
- Zakim, who is here?
- 14:57:13 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, EricP, Chimezie_Ogbuji, ??P13
- 14:57:15 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see chimezie, RRSAgent, Zakim, AndyS, azazello, iv_an_ru, ericP, afs, SteveH
- 14:57:25 [chimezie]
- Zakim, P13 is iv_an_ru
- 14:57:25 [Zakim]
- sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named 'P13'
- 14:57:32 [chimezie]
- Zakim, ??P13 is iv_an_ru
- 14:57:32 [Zakim]
- +iv_an_ru; got it
- 14:57:33 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 14:57:33 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Review ACTION Items" taken up [from ericP]
- 14:57:49 [ericP]
- Zakim, close this agendum
- 14:57:49 [Zakim]
- agendum 1 closed
- 14:57:50 [Zakim]
- I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
- 14:57:53 [Zakim]
- 3. EARL overview page [from ericP]
- 14:58:01 [chimezie]
- iv_an_ru was that you who just joined?
- 14:58:03 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 14:58:03 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "EARL overview page" taken up [from ericP]
- 14:58:41 [AndyS]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/earl
- 14:58:59 [ericP]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/earl DAWG: Implementation Reporting - EARL results
- 14:59:37 [Zakim]
- +??P18
- 15:00:02 [chimezie]
- Zakim, who is on the phone?
- 15:00:04 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see AndyS, EricP, Chimezie_Ogbuji, iv_an_ru, ??P18
- 15:00:07 [azazello]
- no, it was me (Aziz). I just joined.
- 15:00:07 [iv_an_ru]
- iv_an_ru has joined #dawg
- 15:00:23 [chimezie]
- Zakim, ??P18 is azazello
- 15:00:23 [Zakim]
- +azazello; got it
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- -iv_an_ru
- 15:02:48 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 15:02:49 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Soliciting implementation reports" taken up [from ericP]
- 15:03:27 [AndyS]
- LeeF: What else do we want to do before contacting implementers?
- 15:04:17 [AndyS]
- Chime: in favor of contact sooner
- 15:04:21 [Zakim]
- +??P35
- 15:04:22 [AndyS]
- AndyS: ditto
- 15:04:26 [iv_an_ru]
- Implementors will anyway do local tests first, then SPARQL protocol tests, they can start right now.
- 15:05:14 [Zakim]
- -??P35
- 15:05:18 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 15:05:36 [Zakim]
- agendum 5. "Test progress" taken up [from ericP]
- 15:06:31 [AndyS]
- EricP: progress on doc for test classification and facets
- 15:06:50 [ericP]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets-test.pl group test facets
- 15:08:20 [ericP]
- &utf8::decode($rq);
- 15:08:20 [ericP]
- my $root = new SPARQL()->parse($rq)->[0];
- 15:08:20 [ericP]
- my $parseTree = $root->toXML('');
- 15:08:20 [ericP]
- &utf8::encode($parseTree);
- 15:08:20 [ericP]
- my $xp = XML::XPath->new(xml => $parseTree);
- 15:17:30 [AndyS]
- Discussion on scope/coverage of test suite
- 15:18:11 [AndyS]
- Chime: avoid redundancy to reduce DAWG workload
- 15:21:50 [AndyS]
- EricP: There are regexp outside Perl regexp: should we put them in?
- 15:24:51 [iv_an_ru]
- Adding regex is very simple. PCRE is really great piece of code :)
- 15:25:05 [AndyS]
- AndyS: will decide when specific cases arise.
- 15:25:12 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 15:25:12 [Zakim]
- agendum 6. "Test features" taken up [from ericP]
- 15:25:46 [ericP]
- Zakim, take up next agendum
- 15:25:46 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 was just opened, ericP
- 15:25:55 [AndyS]
- No new tests submitted this week.
- 15:25:55 [ericP]
- Zakim, close this agendum
- 15:25:55 [Zakim]
- agendum 6 closed
- 15:25:56 [Zakim]
- I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
- 15:25:57 [Zakim]
- 7. Test harness [from ericP]
- 15:26:15 [iv_an_ru]
- I've sent an e-mail with what I intended to describe.
- 15:26:38 [ericP]
- is it in the archive?
- 15:26:47 [ericP]
- (so we can discuss it briefly here)
- 15:27:04 [iv_an_ru]
- Sent to public-rdf-dawg-request
- 15:27:29 [ericP]
- huh, that requires me to bounce it
- 15:27:37 [ericP]
- they should go to public-rdf-dawg
- 15:29:13 [chimezie]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0030.html -> FW: test status and test service
- 15:29:21 [iv_an_ru]
- iv_an_ru has joined #dawg
- 15:29:34 [iv_an_ru]
- I can hear you but the connection dies if I try to speak.
- 15:31:15 [iv_an_ru]
- We've failed to prepare a live specimen for today conference, hope to place it online before the weekend.
- 15:31:28 [AndyS]
- EricP: congrats
- 15:32:19 [ericP]
- ADJOURNED
- 15:32:23 [Zakim]
- -Chimezie_Ogbuji
- 15:32:29 [ericP]
- RRSAgent, please draft minutes
- 15:32:29 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-dawg-minutes.html ericP
- 15:32:36 [ericP]
- RRSAgent, please make log world-visible
- 15:32:37 [Zakim]
- -azazello
- 15:33:51 [ericP]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/24-dawg-minutes
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- -EricP
- 15:34:14 [Zakim]
- -AndyS
- 15:34:15 [Zakim]
- SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended
- 15:34:16 [Zakim]
- Attendees were AndyS, EricP, Chimezie_Ogbuji, iv_an_ru, azazello