IRC log of er on 2007-07-18

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13:49:52 [shadi]
zakim, this will be ERT
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ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
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meeting: ERT WG
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chair: Shadi
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0041.html
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agenda+ Test Mode: pending decisions
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agenda+ Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide
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agenda+ Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF
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agenda+ Simplified approach for HTTP-in-RDF
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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
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+CarlosV
14:00:16 [JohannesK]
Zakim, CarlosV is really JohannesK
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+JohannesK; got it
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+Shadi
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+JohannesK.a
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+Diego
14:03:48 [CarlosI]
zakim, diego is really CarlosI
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+CarlosI; got it
14:03:49 [shadi]
zakim, johannesk.a is really CarlosV
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+CarlosV; got it
14:04:40 [shadi]
scribe: JohannesK
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scribenick: JohannesK
14:04:47 [shadi]
agenda?
14:05:08 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 1
14:05:08 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Test Mode: pending decisions" taken up [from shadi]
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#testmode
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0019
14:06:18 [JohannesK]
saz: no objections yet on the mailing list to this proposal
14:08:10 [JohannesK]
RESOLUTON: Accept proposed wording about testmodes earl:manual, earl:semiAutomatic, earl:automatic.
14:08:46 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0008
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-notProvided
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-notSupplied
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-unknown or notKnown
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-undisclosed or notDisclosed
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-unspecified or notSpecified
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-unexposed or notExposed
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-suppressed
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-concealed
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-hidden
14:09:43 [CarlosI]
undisclosed or notDisclosed are my favourite ones
14:11:17 [JohannesK]
saz: this is not about missing information
14:13:49 [JohannesK]
cv: property is mandatory
14:14:01 [JohannesK]
ci: property is optional
14:14:40 [JohannesK]
saz: has only maxCardinality restriction
14:16:07 [JohannesK]
saz: wording in schema draft is not very clear (editorial issue)
14:17:17 [JohannesK]
RESOLUTION: rename earl:notAvailable to earl:undisclosed
14:18:41 [JohannesK]
http://www.w3.org/2007/07/04-er-minutes#item05
14:19:23 [JohannesK]
saz: drop inferred or use it as a modifier?
14:21:59 [JohannesK]
ci: heuristic is a testmode
14:27:08 [JohannesK]
ci: what are we doing with the use case for actual heuristics?
14:28:14 [JohannesK]
saz: I think we decided that confidence and heuristics are part of the test description
14:28:39 [JohannesK]
saz. is inferred a testmode or a modifier
14:34:04 [JohannesK]
jk: results for test requirements are always inferred from the results of their test cases
14:34:40 [JohannesK]
cv: drop inferred
14:42:30 [JohannesK]
ci: aggregation of test case results is automatic, so test mode for requirements is always automatic
14:45:19 [JohannesK]
ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list
14:45:44 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
14:45:44 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
14:46:11 [shadi]
zakim, take up next
14:46:11 [Zakim]
agendum 2 was just opened, shadi
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zakim, take agendum 3
14:46:18 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'take agendum 3', shadi
14:46:26 [shadi]
zakim, take up agendum 3
14:46:26 [Zakim]
agendum 3. "Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
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-JohannesK
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+CarlosV.a
14:47:07 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0016
14:47:11 [JohannesK]
Zakim, CarlosV.a is really JohannesK
14:47:11 [Zakim]
+JohannesK; got it
14:47:26 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0042.html
14:48:21 [shadi]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0046.html
14:49:10 [JohannesK]
ci: there are some easy things (where to start counting), others are more difficult (CSS selectors)
14:53:47 [shadi]
Pointer (ptr:reference)
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|-PointerGroup (ptr:pointer)
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| |-RelatedPointer
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| '-EquivalentPointer
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|-SinglePointer (dc:hasVersion, ptr:expression)
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| |-XPathPointer (ptr:namespace)
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| |-XPointerPointer (ptr:namespace?)
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| |-[HTMLPointer]
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| '-CSSPointer
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|-OffsetPointer (ptr:offset)
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| |-CharOffsetPointer
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| '-ByteOffsetPointer
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|-SnippetPointer (ptr:snippet)
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| |-CharSnippetPointer
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| '-ByteSnippetPointer
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|-CompoundPointer (ptr:startPointer)
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| |-StartEndPointer (ptr:endPointer)
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| '-StartOffsetPointer (ptr:offsetPointer)
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'-LineCharPointer (ptr:line, ptr:char)
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+StartSnippetPointer (ptr:snippetPointer)
15:04:52 [JohannesK]
saz: have some more discussion on the mailing list, thanks to ci for working on this
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-JohannesK
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-CarlosV
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-Shadi
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-CarlosI
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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, CarlosI, CarlosV
15:29:08 [shadi]
zakim, bye
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rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-minutes.html shadi
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rrsagent, make logs world
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list [1]
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