IRC log of er on 2007-07-18
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-irc
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- 13:49:52 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be ERT
- 13:49:52 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
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- meeting: ERT WG
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- chair: Shadi
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0041.html
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- agenda+ Test Mode: pending decisions
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- agenda+ Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide
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- agenda+ Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF
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- agenda+ Simplified approach for HTTP-in-RDF
- 13:59:26 [JohannesK]
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +CarlosV
- 14:00:16 [JohannesK]
- Zakim, CarlosV is really JohannesK
- 14:00:17 [Zakim]
- +JohannesK; got it
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- +Shadi
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- CarlosV has joined #er
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- CarlosI has joined #er
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- +JohannesK.a
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- +Diego
- 14:03:48 [CarlosI]
- zakim, diego is really CarlosI
- 14:03:48 [Zakim]
- +CarlosI; got it
- 14:03:49 [shadi]
- zakim, johannesk.a is really CarlosV
- 14:03:50 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV; got it
- 14:04:40 [shadi]
- scribe: JohannesK
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- scribenick: JohannesK
- 14:04:47 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 14:05:08 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Test Mode: pending decisions" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:05:24 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#testmode
- 14:05:44 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0019
- 14:06:18 [JohannesK]
- saz: no objections yet on the mailing list to this proposal
- 14:08:10 [JohannesK]
- RESOLUTON: Accept proposed wording about testmodes earl:manual, earl:semiAutomatic, earl:automatic.
- 14:08:46 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0008
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- -notProvided
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- -notSupplied
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- -unknown or notKnown
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- -undisclosed or notDisclosed
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- -unspecified or notSpecified
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- -unexposed or notExposed
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- -suppressed
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- -concealed
- 14:09:13 [shadi]
- -hidden
- 14:09:43 [CarlosI]
- undisclosed or notDisclosed are my favourite ones
- 14:11:17 [JohannesK]
- saz: this is not about missing information
- 14:13:49 [JohannesK]
- cv: property is mandatory
- 14:14:01 [JohannesK]
- ci: property is optional
- 14:14:40 [JohannesK]
- saz: has only maxCardinality restriction
- 14:16:07 [JohannesK]
- saz: wording in schema draft is not very clear (editorial issue)
- 14:17:17 [JohannesK]
- RESOLUTION: rename earl:notAvailable to earl:undisclosed
- 14:18:41 [JohannesK]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/07/04-er-minutes#item05
- 14:19:23 [JohannesK]
- saz: drop inferred or use it as a modifier?
- 14:21:59 [JohannesK]
- ci: heuristic is a testmode
- 14:27:08 [JohannesK]
- ci: what are we doing with the use case for actual heuristics?
- 14:28:14 [JohannesK]
- saz: I think we decided that confidence and heuristics are part of the test description
- 14:28:39 [JohannesK]
- saz. is inferred a testmode or a modifier
- 14:34:04 [JohannesK]
- jk: results for test requirements are always inferred from the results of their test cases
- 14:34:40 [JohannesK]
- cv: drop inferred
- 14:42:30 [JohannesK]
- ci: aggregation of test case results is automatic, so test mode for requirements is always automatic
- 14:45:19 [JohannesK]
- ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list
- 14:45:44 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:45:44 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
- 14:46:11 [shadi]
- zakim, take up next
- 14:46:11 [Zakim]
- agendum 2 was just opened, shadi
- 14:46:18 [shadi]
- zakim, take agendum 3
- 14:46:18 [Zakim]
- I don't understand 'take agendum 3', shadi
- 14:46:26 [shadi]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
- 14:46:26 [Zakim]
- agendum 3. "Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
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- -JohannesK
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- +CarlosV.a
- 14:47:07 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0016
- 14:47:11 [JohannesK]
- Zakim, CarlosV.a is really JohannesK
- 14:47:11 [Zakim]
- +JohannesK; got it
- 14:47:26 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0042.html
- 14:48:21 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0046.html
- 14:49:10 [JohannesK]
- ci: there are some easy things (where to start counting), others are more difficult (CSS selectors)
- 14:53:47 [shadi]
- Pointer (ptr:reference)
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- |-PointerGroup (ptr:pointer)
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- | |-RelatedPointer
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- | '-EquivalentPointer
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- |-SinglePointer (dc:hasVersion, ptr:expression)
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- | |-XPathPointer (ptr:namespace)
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- | |-XPointerPointer (ptr:namespace?)
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- | |-[HTMLPointer]
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- | '-CSSPointer
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- |-OffsetPointer (ptr:offset)
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- | |-CharOffsetPointer
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- | '-ByteOffsetPointer
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- |-SnippetPointer (ptr:snippet)
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- | |-CharSnippetPointer
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- | '-ByteSnippetPointer
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- |-CompoundPointer (ptr:startPointer)
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- | |-StartEndPointer (ptr:endPointer)
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- | '-StartOffsetPointer (ptr:offsetPointer)
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- '-LineCharPointer (ptr:line, ptr:char)
- 14:57:24 [shadi]
- +StartSnippetPointer (ptr:snippetPointer)
- 15:04:52 [JohannesK]
- saz: have some more discussion on the mailing list, thanks to ci for working on this
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- -JohannesK
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- -CarlosV
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- -Shadi
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- -CarlosI
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- WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, CarlosI, CarlosV
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- zakim, bye
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- Zakim has left #er
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- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, make minutes
- 15:29:22 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-minutes.html shadi
- 15:29:23 [shadi]
- rrsagent, make logs world
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-irc#T14-45-19