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13:49:52 <shadi> zakim, this will be ERT
13:49:52 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
13:49:58 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:50:04 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:52:08 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0041.html
13:52:18 <shadi> agenda+ Test Mode: pending decisions
13:52:31 <shadi> agenda+ Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide
13:52:41 <shadi> agenda+ Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF
13:52:50 <shadi> agenda+ Simplified approach for HTTP-in-RDF
13:59:26 <JohannesK> JohannesK has joined #er
13:59:59 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:06 <Zakim> +CarlosV
14:00:16 <JohannesK> Zakim, CarlosV is really JohannesK
14:00:17 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
14:01:29 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:02:10 <CarlosV> CarlosV has joined #er
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14:03:26 <Zakim> +JohannesK.a
14:03:26 <Zakim> +Diego
14:03:48 <CarlosI> zakim, diego is really CarlosI
14:03:48 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
14:03:49 <shadi> zakim, johannesk.a is really CarlosV
14:03:50 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
14:04:40 <shadi> scribe: JohannesK
14:04:45 <shadi> scribenick: JohannesK
14:04:47 <shadi> agenda?
14:05:08 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:05:08 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Test Mode: pending decisions" taken up [from shadi]
14:05:24 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues#testmode
14:05:44 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0019
14:06:18 <JohannesK> saz: no objections yet on the mailing list to this proposal
14:08:10 <JohannesK> RESOLUTON: Accept proposed wording about testmodes earl:manual, earl:semiAutomatic, earl:automatic.
14:08:46 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0008
14:09:06 <shadi> -notProvided
14:09:06 <shadi> -notSupplied
14:09:06 <shadi> -unknown or notKnown
14:09:06 <shadi> -undisclosed or notDisclosed
14:09:06 <shadi> -unspecified or notSpecified
14:09:07 <shadi> -unexposed or notExposed
14:09:09 <shadi> -suppressed
14:09:11 <shadi> -concealed
14:09:13 <shadi> -hidden
14:09:43 <CarlosI> undisclosed or notDisclosed are my favourite ones
14:11:17 <JohannesK> saz: this is not about missing information
14:13:49 <JohannesK> cv: property is mandatory
14:14:01 <JohannesK> ci: property is optional
14:14:40 <JohannesK> saz: has only maxCardinality restriction
14:16:07 <JohannesK> saz: wording in schema draft is not very clear (editorial issue)
14:17:17 <JohannesK> RESOLUTION: rename earl:notAvailable to earl:undisclosed
14:18:41 <JohannesK> http://www.w3.org/2007/07/04-er-minutes#item05
14:19:23 <JohannesK> saz: drop inferred or use it as a modifier?
14:21:59 <JohannesK> ci: heuristic is a testmode
14:27:08 <JohannesK> ci: what are we doing with the use case for actual heuristics?
14:28:14 <JohannesK> saz: I think we decided that confidence and heuristics are part of the test description
14:28:39 <JohannesK> saz. is inferred a testmode or a modifier
14:34:04 <JohannesK> jk: results for test requirements are always inferred from the results of their test cases
14:34:40 <JohannesK> cv: drop inferred
14:42:30 <JohannesK> ci: aggregation of test case results is automatic, so test mode for requirements is always automatic
14:45:19 <JohannesK> ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list
14:45:44 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:45:44 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Plan for publishing EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
14:46:11 <shadi> zakim, take up next
14:46:11 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, shadi
14:46:18 <shadi> zakim, take agendum 3
14:46:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take agendum 3', shadi
14:46:26 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:46:26 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Plan for publishing Pointer Methods in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:46:41 <Zakim> -JohannesK
14:46:57 <Zakim> +CarlosV.a
14:47:07 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0016
14:47:11 <JohannesK> Zakim, CarlosV.a is really JohannesK
14:47:11 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
14:47:26 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0042.html
14:48:21 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007Jul/0046.html
14:49:10 <JohannesK> ci: there are some easy things (where to start counting), others are more difficult (CSS selectors)
14:53:47 <shadi> Pointer (ptr:reference)
14:53:47 <shadi> |-PointerGroup (ptr:pointer)
14:53:47 <shadi> | |-RelatedPointer
14:53:47 <shadi> | '-EquivalentPointer
14:53:47 <shadi> |-SinglePointer (dc:hasVersion, ptr:expression)
14:53:48 <shadi> | |-XPathPointer (ptr:namespace)
14:53:50 <shadi> | |-XPointerPointer (ptr:namespace?)
14:53:52 <shadi> | |-[HTMLPointer]
14:53:54 <shadi> | '-CSSPointer
14:53:56 <shadi> |-OffsetPointer (ptr:offset)
14:53:58 <shadi> | |-CharOffsetPointer
14:54:00 <shadi> | '-ByteOffsetPointer
14:54:02 <shadi> |-SnippetPointer (ptr:snippet)
14:54:04 <shadi> | |-CharSnippetPointer
14:54:06 <shadi> | '-ByteSnippetPointer
14:54:08 <shadi> |-CompoundPointer (ptr:startPointer)
14:54:10 <shadi> | |-StartEndPointer (ptr:endPointer)
14:54:12 <shadi> | '-StartOffsetPointer (ptr:offsetPointer)
14:54:14 <shadi> '-LineCharPointer (ptr:line, ptr:char)
14:57:24 <shadi> +StartSnippetPointer (ptr:snippetPointer)
15:04:52 <JohannesK> saz: have some more discussion on the mailing list, thanks to ci for working on this
15:05:15 <Zakim> -JohannesK
15:05:17 <Zakim> -CarlosV
15:05:19 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:05:21 <Zakim> -CarlosI
15:05:22 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:05:25 <Zakim> Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, CarlosI, CarlosV
15:29:08 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:29:17 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:29:22 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:29:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-minutes.html shadi
15:29:23 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:29:29 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:29:29 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-er-actions.rdf :
15:29:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: saz to bring the "inferred" issue back to the mailing list [1]
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