IRC log of xmlsec on 2007-07-17

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RRSAgent, make logs member

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Zakim, this will be XMLSEC

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ok, trackbot-ng; I see T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM scheduled to start in 44 minutes

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Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 17 July 2007

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Chair: Frederick

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ScribeNick: tlr

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hi ...

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Meeting: XML Security Specifications Maintenance WG Conference Call

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Chair: Frederick Hirsch

12:49:22 [FrederickHirsch]

Scribe: Thomas Roessler

12:49:37 [FrederickHirsch]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0027.html

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RRSAgent, make log public

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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has now started

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+Frederick_Hirsch

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-Frederick_Hirsch

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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Frederick_Hirsch

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+ +1.613.726.aaaa

12:56:31 [tlr]

zakim, call thomas-781

12:56:31 [Zakim]

ok, tlr; the call is being made

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+Thomas

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zakim, aaaa is EdSimon

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+EdSimon; got it

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+sean

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+??P4

12:59:47 [klanz2]

zakim, ? is klanz2

12:59:48 [Zakim]

+klanz2; got it

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+ +1.410.695.aabb

13:00:13 [klanz2]

zakim, mute me

13:00:13 [Zakim]

klanz2 should now be muted

13:00:18 [tlr]

zakim, aabb is rdm

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+rdm; got it

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+??P7

13:00:35 [tlr]

zakim, ??P7 is jcc

13:00:35 [Zakim]

+jcc; got it

13:00:51 [EdSimon]

Frederick, are you on the phone line?

13:01:00 [FrederickHirsch]

having difficulty with phone connedtion, will try again

13:01:39 [tlr]

frederick, do you have skype?

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13:02:15 [klanz2]

ack klanz2

13:03:03 [tlr]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/wiki/UserPreferences

13:03:05 [FrederickHirsch]

yes let me try land line

13:03:17 [tlr]

frederick, shall I try to conference you in through skype?

13:03:48 [tlr]

zakim, who is on the phone?

13:03:48 [Zakim]

On the phone I see EdSimon, Thomas, sean, klanz2, rdm, jcc

13:04:04 [FrederickHirsch]

zakim, what is the number?

13:04:04 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, FrederickHirsch.

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+Hal_Lockhart

13:04:11 [tlr]

zakim, code?

13:04:11 [Zakim]

the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), tlr

13:04:11 [FrederickHirsch]

zakim, what is the phone number?

13:04:13 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, FrederickHirsch.

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+ +03531637aacc

13:05:09 [klanz2]

VoIP

13:05:22 [FrederickHirsch]

can you hear me

13:05:27 [tlr]

zakim, aacc is FrederickHirsch

13:05:28 [Zakim]

+FrederickHirsch; got it

13:05:39 [FrederickHirsch]

zakim, who is here?

13:05:39 [Zakim]

On the phone I see EdSimon, Thomas, sean, klanz2, rdm, jcc, Hal_Lockhart, FrederickHirsch

13:05:42 [Zakim]

On IRC I see PHB, hal, rdm, jcc, sean, EdSimon, FrederickHirsch, klanz2, Zakim, RRSAgent, tlr, trackbot-ng

13:06:14 [FrederickHirsch]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0027.html

13:06:17 [tlr]

zakim, who is talking?

13:06:28 [Zakim]

tlr, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: klanz2 (0%), sean (45%)

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Topic: Administrvia

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zakim, mute sean

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sean should now be muted

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Next meeting: 31 July, no meeting next week

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fjh: Tech plenary draft agenda is available.

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... still soliciting papers for workshop ...

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... please follow up on interop questionnaire ...

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... minutes for last time ....

13:07:26 [FrederickHirsch]

http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-xmlsec-minutes

13:07:27 [PHB]

zakim, code?

13:07:27 [Zakim]

the conference code is 965732 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), PHB

13:07:40 [tlr]

tlr: umh, did I update the version in datespace

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http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-xmlsec-minutes.html

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That's the updated version.

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RESOLUTION: minutes approved

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Topic: action item review

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+PHB

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ACTION-26: note for submission to CG; continued

13:09:38 [FrederickHirsch]

action-50 to be assigned to THomas, 31 July

13:09:38 [tlr]

ACTION-50: reassign to Thomas; new due date on 31 July

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ACTION-53: work toward publication of decryption transform; blocked on XPointer issue

13:10:20 [tlr]

ACTION-56: done

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ACTION-58: done; might need some refinement in terms of test cases

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ACTION-61: done; haven't heard back

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ACTION-62: clarify testing issues; done

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ACTION-63: done

13:11:36 [sean]

i am muted, but yes my action item is closed

13:11:57 [tlr]

sean, you can unmute yourself by saying "zakim, unmute me"

13:11:59 [tlr]

Topic: XPointer

13:12:20 [tlr]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0018.html

13:12:21 [FrederickHirsch]

i can scribe for thomas in this section

13:12:38 [rdm]

zakim, mute me

13:12:39 [Zakim]

rdm should now be muted

13:13:02 [FrederickHirsch]

Both decrypt transform and xml dsig core include effectively normative reference to XPointer, but to CR

13:13:34 [FrederickHirsch]

this was returned to WD, split into three, two went to REC

13:13:43 [tlr]

xpointer() XPointer scheme

13:13:51 [FrederickHirsch]

one part that includes material referenced did not , i.e

13:14:47 [FrederickHirsch]

DSig core can reference XPointer REC and Element scheme() XPointer

13:14:49 [tlr]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/xmldsig-core-xpointer.html#sec-ReferenceProcessingModel

13:14:53 [FrederickHirsch]

look at 4.3.3.2

13:15:35 [FrederickHirsch]

look for paragraph "When a fragment is not preceded "

13:15:46 [FrederickHirsch]

barename now called shortname

13:16:43 [FrederickHirsch]

three kinds of XPointer - barename (still exist, shortname) in XPointer framework

13:17:05 [klanz2]

do you have a link for the short name definition

13:17:16 [FrederickHirsch]

second, #xpointer(/), identifies root element in nodeset

13:17:28 [FrederickHirsch]

yes, in XPointer Framework...

13:18:10 [FrederickHirsch]

syntax for element XPointer only allows document, but would lose comments after closing tag of document element

13:18:22 [FrederickHirsch]

so cannot use element XPointer for this

13:18:27 [FrederickHirsch]

hence definition in this draft

13:19:18 [FrederickHirsch]

XPointer framework REC is http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-xptr-framework-20030325/

13:19:38 [FrederickHirsch]

XPointer element scheme REC http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-xptr-element-20030325/

13:20:09 [FrederickHirsch]

looking at 4.3.3.3

13:20:26 [FrederickHirsch]

no XPointer evaluation context defined in framework

13:20:47 [FrederickHirsch]

edit for this, also to remove location-set

13:21:08 [FrederickHirsch]

i.e. no context, no location-set (point nodes, range set)

13:21:58 [Zakim]

-klanz2

13:22:07 [klanz2]

lost the call

13:22:26 [FrederickHirsch]

full xpointer, now is scheme based xpointer (equivalent distinction)

13:23:49 [FrederickHirsch]

q+

13:24:08 [jcc]

q

13:24:11 [jcc]

q+

13:24:13 [klanz2]

zakim, ? is klanz2

13:24:13 [Zakim]

sorry, klanz2, I do not recognize a party named '?'

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+??P16

13:24:18 [klanz2]

zakim, ? is klanz2

13:24:18 [Zakim]

+klanz2; got it

13:24:42 [tlr]

fjh: intent of the changes to do what was done before, but not refer to xpointer

13:24:58 [tlr]

... select portion of text? ...

13:25:08 [tlr]

... change implementations that relied on that? ...

13:25:30 [PHB]

q+

13:25:37 [Zakim]

-klanz2

13:26:47 [Zakim]

+Konrad_Lanz

13:27:02 [tlr]

tlr: well, that's OPTIONAL. Also, step 2 suggests that a partially selected text node would be fully referenced in the old model, no?

13:27:19 [tlr]

jcc: same question, q-

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q- jcc

13:27:26 [tlr]

ack FrederickHirsch

13:27:28 [FrederickHirsch]

ack FrederickHirsch

13:27:30 [FrederickHirsch]

ack PHB

13:27:45 [FrederickHirsch]

not conformance effecting

13:27:48 [PHB]

q-

13:27:49 [tlr]

phb: it's ok

13:28:23 [tlr]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/xmldsig-core-xpointer.html#sec-ReferenceProcessingModel

13:28:31 [EdSimon]

I think we need time to review the changes before the next call in two weeks.

13:28:54 [hal]

q+

13:29:04 [FrederickHirsch]

ack hal

13:29:04 [EdSimon]

I'm good with merging.

13:29:10 [FrederickHirsch]

ok with merging

13:29:20 [tlr]

ACTION: tlr to merge into main editor's draft

13:29:20 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-64 - Merge into main editor's draft [on Thomas Roessler - due 2007-07-24].

13:30:22 [tlr]

fjh: sense of group -- pretty close, no major rework?

13:30:28 [tlr]

q+

13:30:32 [tlr]

klanz2: ok

13:30:47 [FrederickHirsch]

ack tlr

13:31:09 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: do w have test cases for C4N with comments?

13:31:13 [FrederickHirsch]

s/do w/do we/

13:31:18 [tlr]

jcc: can take an action

13:31:51 [tlr]

ACTION: juan carlos to develop/retrieve test cases for C14N with comments, scheme-based xpointers

13:31:51 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-65 - Carlos to develop/retrieve test cases for C14N with comments, scheme-based xpointers [on Juan Carlos Cruellas - due 2007-07-24].

13:32:45 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: inform coordination group of this approach regarding XPointer behaviour

13:33:07 [tlr]

ACTION: thomas to inform xml cg of intent to squat on xpointer(/) and xpointer(id(ID))

13:33:07 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-66 - Inform xml cg of intent to squat on xpointer(/) and xpointer(id(ID)) [on Thomas Roessler - due 2007-07-24].

13:33:27 [tlr]

topic: identifiers for xpath 2.0 and xslt 2.0

13:33:38 [FrederickHirsch]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0012.html

13:34:43 [hal]

+1

13:35:05 [Zakim]

-Hal_Lockhart

13:35:20 [tlr]

fjh: defer to XML Signature vNext

13:35:23 [tlr]

ed: agree

13:35:38 [tlr]

ACTION: EdSimon to update wiki to list XPath 2.0 and XSLT 2.0 identifiers

13:35:38 [trackbot-ng]

Sorry, couldn't find user - EdSimon

13:35:40 [Zakim]

+Hal_Lockhart

13:35:48 [tlr]

action: Ed Simon to update wiki to list XPath 2.0 and XSLT 2.0 identifiers

13:36:00 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-67 - Simon to update wiki to list XPath 2.0 and XSLT 2.0 identifiers [on Ed Simon - due 2007-07-24].

13:36:23 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: for items we defer to v.next, if urgent issue we can write note or members can do member submissions

13:36:59 [tlr]

Topic: RFC 4514 and 2253

13:37:02 [sean]

zakim, umute me

13:37:02 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'umute me', sean

13:37:07 [tlr]

zakim, unmute sean

13:37:07 [Zakim]

sean should no longer be muted

13:37:09 [sean]

zakim, unmute me

13:37:09 [Zakim]

sean was not muted, sean

13:37:24 [FrederickHirsch]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0024.html

13:37:32 [tlr]

fjh: thanks for doing that; very helpful

13:37:39 [tlr]

sean: went through the grammars, looked at changes section in 4514

13:37:46 [tlr]

... three possible places with incompatibilities ...

13:37:57 [tlr]

... but they're (a) obscure, and (b) fix obvious bugs in 2253 ...

13:38:12 [tlr]

... first one, 2253 if you look at grammar doesn't allow attribute type keywords of length 1 ...

13:38:18 [tlr]

... highly unlikely that's enforced ...

13:38:22 [tlr]

... would forbid C='US' ...

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... used widely ...

13:38:43 [tlr]

... second one, RFC 2253 didn't allow '\ ' to escape a space ...

13:38:47 [tlr]

... another bug in the grammar ..

13:38:56 [tlr]

... doubt there are any implementations that enforce this one ...

13:39:09 [tlr]

... last one, RFC 4514 requires null characters to be escaped ...

13:39:14 [tlr]

... 2253 doesn't say anything about them ...

13:39:20 [tlr]

... worth writing a test case for each ...

13:39:26 [tlr]

... to make sure implementations aren't broken ...

13:40:03 [tlr]

fjh: write test cases, what else do we need to do?

13:40:15 [tlr]

sean: umh

13:40:40 [tlr]

fjh: I'm asking the wrong question. We've narrowed down the issues. These are reasonable changes, we'll look if we have any issues -- not sure that's really needed.

13:40:57 [tlr]

sean: I'm just suggesting that test cases are final action. If we do find problems, that's better fixed in the implementation than in the spec.

13:41:40 [FrederickHirsch]

Agree that ok to change normative reference, to 4514, if these issues arise, then implementation has serious issue, an implementation issue

13:41:47 [tlr]

tlr: to summarize, we're fine changing the reference. If the differential use cases demonstrate strict RFC 2253 compliance, then that suggests insane implementation.

13:41:52 [FrederickHirsch]

s/Agree/Summary, agree

13:42:02 [tlr]

fjh: sounds reasonable

13:42:18 [tlr]

sean: would like to hear from Konrad

13:42:23 [Zakim]

-PHB

13:42:25 [tlr]

klanz: read e-mail; think that's fine

13:42:40 [tlr]

fjh: what else do we need to do?

13:43:30 [tlr]

tlr: umh?

13:43:34 [tlr]

fjh: where do we record this?

13:43:35 [FrederickHirsch]

record this in transition request as annotation to changes

13:43:41 [FrederickHirsch]

record in readme for test case

13:43:42 [tlr]

tlr: annotation to changes; transition request

13:43:46 [tlr]

sean: readme for test cases

13:44:52 [tlr]

fjh: track on wiki, not as separate action item

13:45:57 [tlr]

tlr: let's keep them in tracker

13:46:07 [tlr]

fjh: yeah... might indeed make it easier

13:46:41 [tlr]

ACTION: sean to develop RFC 4514 / RFC 2253 test cases

13:46:44 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-68 - Develop RFC 4514 / RFC 2253 test cases [on Sean Mullan - due 2007-07-24].

13:47:33 [sean]

zakim, mute me

13:47:33 [Zakim]

sean should now be muted

13:47:43 [tlr]

topic: wrap up some things that hung around the agenda for a while

13:47:51 [tlr]

s/topic: wrap up some things that hung around the agenda for a while/

13:47:54 [tlr]

topic: misc wrap-up

13:48:16 [tlr]

fjh: XML escaping and well-formedness. Agreed there's no need to do more on this.

13:48:23 [tlr]

klanz2: early e-mail exchange; moot

13:48:30 [tlr]

... agree there's no open issue ...

13:48:54 [tlr]

EdSimon: yep, there was also an exchange with Sean around CDATA etc; not an issue

13:49:06 [tlr]

fjh: encoding of leading space in dname work -- anything needed?

13:49:13 [tlr]

... thought we had deferred to vNext ...

13:49:19 [tlr]

... is that an issue any more with all the changes? ...

13:50:03 [tlr]

klanz2: it's recommended to escape first space character...

13:50:20 [FrederickHirsch]

http://www.w3.org/2007/xmlsec/Drafts/xmldsig-core/

13:50:47 [tlr]

tlr: RFC 4514 takes care of that

13:50:53 [tlr]

klanz2: "augment" takes care of that

13:50:59 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: 4514 requires space at beginning to be escaped

13:51:01 [tlr]

... on the xmldsig-core side ...

13:51:06 [tlr]

fjh: ok, issue closed

13:51:28 [tlr]

fjh: adding a warning similar to what was in the RFC

13:51:39 [tlr]

sean: record as best practice item

13:51:47 [tlr]

fjh: who would like to do this?

13:51:55 [tlr]

ed: ok, will do that along with other wiki stuff

13:52:04 [tlr]

... would like review from Sean, Konrad ...

13:52:12 [FrederickHirsch]

warning similar to that of section 7.2 of RFC 2253: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2253.txt

13:52:36 [tlr]

ACTION: ed to draft warning similar to that of section 7.2 of RFC 2253 as possible best practice item

13:52:36 [trackbot-ng]

Created ACTION-69 - Draft warning similar to that of section 7.2 of RFC 2253 as possible best practice item [on Ed Simon - due 2007-07-24].

13:53:03 [tlr]

fjh: reversibility of string to DER encoding ... another warning?

13:53:23 [tlr]

q+

13:53:30 [tlr]

jcc: yeah, that's what I was thinking

13:53:40 [FrederickHirsch]

ack tlr

13:54:07 [tlr]

tlr: either this is the same issue as above, or the last action is wrong.

13:54:18 [tlr]

fjh: ooops, yes. Juan Carlos, please review what Ed does.

13:54:34 [FrederickHirsch]

5c and 5d same item (in agenda)

13:54:46 [tlr]

q+

13:55:09 [tlr]

q-

13:55:30 [FrederickHirsch]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0005.html

13:55:46 [tlr]

Topic: ACTION-60; mime types vs URIs

13:56:01 [tlr]

jcc: that was the message sent concerning the two attributes ...

13:56:08 [tlr]

... one appearing in ds:Reference, one appearing in ds:Object ...

13:56:17 [tlr]

... conclusion after reading in spec was ...

13:56:31 [tlr]

... ??? ...

13:56:46 [tlr]

... type attribute in ds:Reference always pointed to Object, Manifest, whatever ...

13:56:53 [tlr]

... Type attribute in ds:Object element is MIME type ...

13:56:57 [tlr]

... which deals with media type ...

13:57:02 [tlr]

... they look a bit orthogonal ...

13:57:07 [tlr]

... but no guidance at all ...

13:57:21 [tlr]

... some kind of guidance should be given which interpretation is the right one ...

13:57:26 [tlr]

... MIME type is string, Type is URI ...

13:57:49 [tlr]

... but we could put a MIME type into Type (??) ...

13:57:56 [tlr]

... clarify and agree what purposes of each attribute are ...

13:58:29 [tlr]

fjh: let me summarize... not an issue with the rec, but maybe some interpretation advice in best practice document?

13:58:33 [tlr]

jcc: exactly

13:59:11 [tlr]

klanz2: is there shared view that these are orthogonal -- schema type vs. media type of encoded object?

13:59:22 [tlr]

... I agree to that interpretation ...

13:59:35 [tlr]

fjh: konrad, please send list to message, errrm, ..

13:59:45 [klanz2]

;-)

13:59:48 [tlr]

Topic: interop

13:59:48 [FrederickHirsch]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xmlsec-maintwg/2007Jul/0026.html

14:00:00 [klanz2]

I'll list a send to the message ;-)

14:00:11 [tlr]

jcc: tried to clarify proposed way to build infrastructure for infrastructure

14:00:28 [tlr]

... proposal is that last table have links to details of test cases ...

14:00:32 [tlr]

... and test cases themselves ....

14:01:05 [tlr]

... especially relevant for test cases dealing with c14n and inheritanc e...

14:01:22 [tlr]

... first, XML document, then list of links to different signatures ...

14:01:28 [tlr]

... that participants would compute ...

14:01:41 [tlr]

... in the end, would have document reference with tables and references to each test case ...

14:02:19 [tlr]

fjh: some c14n tests might just have input/output?

14:02:22 [tlr]

q+

14:02:30 [tlr]

jcc: ??

14:02:36 [tlr]

fjh: maybe just look at same canonicalized output?

14:02:47 [tlr]

jcc: not at level of signature, only i/o of c14n?

14:03:03 [tlr]

... would work for some test cases, but maybe would also like to have negative test cases?

14:03:11 [tlr]

q-

14:03:36 [tlr]

klanz2: enveloping signatures?

14:03:53 [tlr]

jcc: need to think more about that

14:04:23 [tlr]

... for identifying false positives, would need actual signatures ...

14:04:53 [tlr]

klanz2: doesn't prevent us from having unit tests for c14n

14:05:13 [tlr]

fjh: want to focus next call on (a) agreeing on redline as merged

14:05:22 [tlr]

Topic: next meeting

14:05:39 [tlr]

fjh: also, go through Juan-Carlos' document, test document, update, make progress on that

14:05:44 [tlr]

... please review ahead of time ...

14:05:44 [tlr]

q+

14:06:10 [tlr]

klanz2: is there some howto for the CVS?

14:06:48 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr:test data goes into test subdirectory for interop

14:07:03 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: test data goes into test subdirectory for interop

14:07:16 [FrederickHirsch]

tlr: try to use valid HTML instead of word etc

14:07:30 [FrederickHirsch]

... avoid plain UTF-8 encoding

14:07:41 [FrederickHirsch]

... general cvs instructions available on W3C

14:07:46 [FrederickHirsch]

s/tlr:test data goes into test subdirectory for interop//

14:09:16 [FrederickHirsch]

next call - agree dsig redline (merged), decrypt to last call, normative reference to URI spec (RFC obsoleted) same doc RFC reference (Thomas to send), review Juan Carlos docs

14:10:02 [FrederickHirsch]

s/send/send more detailed message to list/

14:10:23 [tlr]

fjh: adjourned

14:10:29 [Zakim]

-sean

14:10:32 [Zakim]

-Hal_Lockhart

14:10:41 [Zakim]

-jcc

14:10:43 [Zakim]

-EdSimon

14:10:44 [Zakim]

-rdm

14:11:09 [Zakim]

-Konrad_Lanz

14:11:10 [Zakim]

-FrederickHirsch

14:11:10 [tlr]

zakim, list participants

14:11:11 [Zakim]

As of this point the attendees have been +1.613.726.aaaa, Thomas, EdSimon, sean, klanz2, +1.410.695.aabb, rdm, jcc, Hal_Lockhart, +03531637aacc, FrederickHirsch, PHB, Konrad_Lanz

14:11:13 [tlr]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

14:11:13 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-minutes.html tlr

14:16:10 [Zakim]

disconnecting the lone participant, Thomas, in T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM

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T&S_XMLSEC()9:00AM has ended

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Attendees were +1.613.726.aaaa, Thomas, EdSimon, sean, klanz2, +1.410.695.aabb, rdm, jcc, Hal_Lockhart, +03531637aacc, FrederickHirsch, PHB, Konrad_Lanz

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rrsagent, excuse us

16:41:18 [RRSAgent]

I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: tlr to merge into main editor's draft [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-29-20

16:41:18 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: juan carlos to develop/retrieve test cases for C14N with comments, scheme-based xpointers [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-31-51

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ACTION: thomas to inform xml cg of intent to squat on xpointer(/) and xpointer(id(ID)) [3]

16:41:18 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-33-07

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ACTION: EdSimon to update wiki to list XPath 2.0 and XSLT 2.0 identifiers [4]

16:41:18 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-35-38

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ACTION: Ed Simon to update wiki to list XPath 2.0 and XSLT 2.0 identifiers [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-35-48

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ACTION: sean to develop RFC 4514 / RFC 2253 test cases [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-46-41

16:41:18 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ed to draft warning similar to that of section 7.2 of RFC 2253 as possible best practice item [7]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-xmlsec-irc#T13-52-36