12:28:17 RRSAgent has joined #tsdtf 12:28:17 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-tsdtf-irc 12:28:23 Zakim has joined #tsdtf 12:28:30 zakim, this will be TSD 12:28:30 ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes 12:28:37 meeting: TSD TF 12:28:46 chair: CarlosV, Christophe 12:29:50 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Jul/0004.html 12:30:29 WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started 12:30:37 +Shadi 12:31:18 agenda+ Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft 12:31:40 agenda+ MWI test case submission and management system 12:31:48 +Christophe_Strobbe 12:31:49 agenda+ Action Item review 12:31:57 +CarlosV 12:32:01 Christophe has joined #tsdtf 12:33:20 CarlosI has joined #tsdtf 12:36:11 +CarlosI 12:38:11 scribe: CarlosI 12:38:15 scribenick: CarlosI 12:38:18 agenda? 12:38:34 CarlosV has joined #tsdtf 12:38:53 take up agendum 1 12:39:29 SAZ: With the permission of the WG chairs a new agenda item has been added 12:40:27 CV: shall we continue updating test cases or wait? 12:41:23 SAZ: are you talking about internal tests or those that are already at CVS? 12:41:30 CV: internal 12:42:44 MichaelC has joined #tsdtf 12:43:14 +Cooper 12:44:41 CS: there are a few SC that has been renamed 12:45:28 CS: what to do with those that are already at CVS? 12:45:51 SAZ: have to live with some outdated and so on content 12:46:20 SAZ: due to persistence policies 12:47:43 MC: are the test cases associated by ID or SC number? 12:48:09 MC: the ID shouldn't change 12:50:09 MC: mainly minor clarifications with no major impact are expected 12:51:41 MC: should be safe to proceed 12:51:53 MC: no major impact on test suite expected 12:52:41 SAZ: expected timeline from BTW for the update? 12:53:14 CV: early August, maybe the second week 12:54:54 SAZ: something by the 31st July possible? 12:55:06 CV: don't think so, too close 12:55:26 SAZ: maybe then we may postpone next meeting 12:56:47 CS: maybe some of them could be ready for next meeting 12:57:32 SAZ: let's take this up again at the end of the call 12:57:37 zakim, take up next 12:57:37 agendum 2. "MWI test case submission and management system" taken up [from shadi] 12:57:52 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/Open/submit 12:58:02 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/Open/review 12:58:13 SAZ: this is very early work in MWI 12:58:28 SAZ: a lot of potential to reuse 12:58:52 SAZ: with some adaptation and customization 12:59:15 SAZ: early stage, open to comments and suggestions 12:59:43 SAZ: is time to give them feedback or a sort of wish list 13:01:35 SAZ: there's a license grant required by our legal staff 13:02:02 SAZ: my hope is to get the form generate the metadata in the background 13:02:58 SAZ: would be very easy to add whatever else we need 13:03:41 SAZ: using a new BBDD and just adding the new fields reusing existing technology 13:03:45 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL 13:03:45 +Tim_Boland 13:04:58 SAZ: some of the metadata we need could be generated automatically 13:05:20 SAZ: CS, not sure about your comment on titles 13:05:40 CS: people could have different ways to provide titles 13:05:53 CS: some could be more generic others more specific 13:07:33 SAZ: a title as a handle would be useful 13:08:00 Tim has joined #tsdtf 13:09:49 SAZ: talk with DOM about how they manage technologies and suggest we use URIs 13:12:21 SAZ: rules are really specific 13:12:55 SAZ: would be the tough part 13:13:58 SAZ: there's no pointer to the related test 13:14:17 SAZ: we can point this out and see how they plan to solve it 13:17:38 CI: we may have problems with the current file submission 13:18:12 SAZ: could use a multiple step submission 13:19:54 SAZ: let's see also the review template 13:20:04 CS: status is missing 13:20:40 CS: in our case URI points to the metadata file not the test itself 13:21:20 SAZ: would like to have some way to export the system metadata 13:21:59 SAZ: could use the machine processable argument 13:24:10 SAZ: add links to the comments each time we create a new one 13:24:59 SAZ: we may have a different way to create IDs 13:25:20 SAZ: we may use the title as a handle instead of description 13:25:43 SAZ: links to the comments 13:25:58 SAZ: author's email 13:26:10 SAZ: links to the file and the metadata 13:26:34 SAZ: trying to get everything as generic as possible 13:27:06 SAZ: bulleted list of comments in notes with the different reviews and issues 13:28:10 TB: we may need to add timestamps to the comments 13:28:38 SAZ: we also may need to associate each comment with the owner 13:29:55 SAZ: all the comments seems useful and hope DOM will implement them 13:30:18 ACTION: to write up the comments and send them to the list 13:31:08 zakim, take up next 13:31:08 agendum 3. "Action Item review" taken up [from shadi] 13:32:20 SAZ: back to the tests update 13:32:42 CV: 31st not possible 13:33:01 CV: may be 7th August or 15th 13:33:17 SAZ: 15th holiday in several countries 13:33:38 SAZ: let's try with August the 7th 13:34:15 -Tim_Boland 13:34:20 -Shadi 13:34:21 -Christophe_Strobbe 13:34:21 -Cooper 13:34:22 -CarlosV 13:34:23 -CarlosI 13:34:24 WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended 13:34:25 Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, CarlosI, Cooper, Tim_Boland 13:35:04 zakim, bye 13:35:04 Zakim has left #tsdtf 13:35:18 rrsagent, make logs world 13:35:24 rrsagent, make minutes 13:35:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi 13:35:25 rrsagent, make logs world 13:35:30 rrsagent, bye 13:35:30 I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-tsdtf-actions.rdf : 13:35:30 ACTION: to write up the comments and send them to the list [1] 13:35:30 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/17-tsdtf-irc#T13-30-18