IRC log of sweo on 2007-07-11
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/11-sweo-irc
- 13:44:13 [ivan]
- zakim, this will be SWEO
- 13:44:13 [Zakim]
- ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
- 13:44:23 [ivan]
- rrsagent, set log public
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- Topic: SWEO IG Weekly Telco
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- Chair: Ivan
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- Regrets: Susie
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- Possible regrets: Kingsley, LeeF
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- 13:56:08 [LeeF]
- ivan, (re: scribing) i'll be available for about the first half of the meeting, but probably need to duck out after that
- 13:56:29 [ivan]
- ok.
- 13:56:40 [ivan]
- we will try to recruit somebody to take over (if needed)
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- 13:59:07 [ivan]
- zakim, dial ivan-home
- 13:59:07 [Zakim]
- ok, ivan; the call is being made
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- SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
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- +Ivan
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- + +49.895.480.aaaa
- 14:01:08 [ivan]
- zakim, aaaa is dunja
- 14:01:10 [Zakim]
- +dunja; got it
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- +??P10
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- + +49.892.180.aabb
- 14:01:41 [bengee]
- zakim, P10 is me
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- sorry, bengee, I do not recognize a party named 'P10'
- 14:01:46 [bengee]
- zakim, ??P10 is me
- 14:01:46 [Zakim]
- +bengee; got it
- 14:01:59 [ivan]
- zakim, aabb is Paula
- 14:02:01 [Zakim]
- sorry, ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'aabb'
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- +LeeF
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- +??P34
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- Scribe: LeeF
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- 14:04:01 [LeeF]
- zakim, mute me please
- 14:04:01 [Zakim]
- LeeF should now be muted
- 14:04:07 [ivan]
- zakim, ??P34 is Leo
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- +Leo; got it
- 14:05:13 [LeeF]
- Regrets: Susie, kidehen
- 14:05:16 [ivan]
- topic: flyer
- 14:05:35 [Zakim]
- +??P17
- 14:05:37 [LeeF]
- Dunja: thanks for survey feedback
- 14:06:02 [kidehen]
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- 14:06:05 [LeeF]
- ...preference of group is for a mixed flyer
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- kingsley
- 14:06:22 [kidehen]
- for 30 mins only
- 14:06:27 [ivan]
- zakim, ??P17 is kingsley
- 14:06:27 [Zakim]
- +kingsley; got it
- 14:06:29 [LeeF]
- ...4 vs. 5 for "two flyers" vs. "mixed flyer"
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- Regrets -kidehen
- 14:06:44 [kidehen]
- LeeF: partial :-)
- 14:06:53 [LeeF]
- Dunja: Majority prefers the cover page with the keys, possibly with small wording or image changes
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- 14:08:05 [LeeF_]
- zakim, who's here?
- 14:08:05 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Ivan, dunja, bengee, PaulaP, LeeF (muted), Leo, kingsley
- 14:08:08 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see LeeF_, kidehen, leobard, Dunja, PaulaP, LeeF, RRSAgent, Zakim, uldis_, _uldis, bengee, ivan
- 14:08:38 [LeeF_]
- Dunja: data integration image for page 3 - big majority for Leo's image
- 14:08:48 [danja]
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- 14:08:52 [LeeF_]
- ...with some modification from a designer, and rewriting of additional info
- 14:09:17 [LeeF_]
- ...semantic web layer cake - 2 votes for it, 3 against, 4 for having it if it's a tech flyer
- 14:09:29 [LeeF_]
- ...I propose having it for a mixed flyer
- 14:09:50 [LeeF_]
- kidehen: don't think there's general support for layer cake being in the flyer
- 14:10:24 [LeeF_]
- Dunja: layer cake would be in the technical part of the mixed flyer
- 14:10:31 [LeeF_]
- kidehen: how about a high level technical architecture imagte?
- 14:10:51 [LeeF_]
- ivan: i would propose something different
- 14:11:08 [LeeF_]
- ...dunja, see if they can propose a version of the flyer based on the survey results
- 14:11:13 [LeeF_]
- ...then we can see whether the layer cake fits in
- 14:11:16 [leobard]
- +1 on that
- 14:14:08 [LeeF_]
- <group discussion on trying to reach consensus on a flyer as soon as possible>
- 14:14:15 [ivan]
- q?
- 14:14:43 [ivan]
- Topic: logo
- 14:15:09 [leobard]
- sounds like you have swallowed digits :-)
- 14:15:14 [PaulaP]
- :)
- 14:15:37 [leobard]
- better
- 14:16:03 [LeeF_]
- bengee: two meetings with the comm team
- 14:16:22 [leobard]
- bengee: they are going to create new proposals
- 14:16:33 [leobard]
- bengee: its quite demandig
- 14:16:37 [leobard]
- bengee: there is progress
- 14:16:55 [leobard]
- bengee: some logo will be integrated
- 14:17:32 [LeeF_]
- ivan: main difference between what we had and what the comm team wants is that there should be more emphasis on the overall Semantic Web
- 14:17:45 [danja]
- (no strong opinions re. flyer)
- 14:18:18 [LeeF_]
- ...comm team will make next proposal
- 14:18:33 [ivan]
- topic: use case
- 14:19:35 [LeeF_]
- ivan: i have put in a new use case from ???
- 14:19:40 [ivan]
- Elsevier
- 14:19:50 [LeeF_]
- s/???/Elsevier
- 14:20:12 [LeeF_]
- -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/Elsevier/ Elsevier use case
- 14:20:32 [ivan]
- topic: infogathering
- 14:20:46 [kidehen]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/WishList
- 14:21:00 [LeeF_]
- leobard: kingsley made improvements to web service, debugging going on
- 14:21:09 [LeeF_]
- ...task is to store RDF in an RDF store and make it usable
- 14:21:22 [leobard]
- http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/WishList
- 14:21:24 [LeeF_]
- ...bug tracking system
- 14:21:52 [LeeF_]
- leobard: deeper problems regarding transformation and use of data
- 14:22:04 [LeeF_]
- ...data might not conform to any known ontology, manual work to massage
- 14:22:41 [LeeF_]
- kidehen: wishlist page has saved queries that show how to get at the data
- 14:24:04 [LeeF]
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- 14:24:21 [LeeF]
- ...this is just a SPARQL + XSLT problem
- 14:25:38 [leobard]
- ivan: suggest a vieser
- 14:25:45 [leobard]
- viewer
- 14:26:43 [kidehen]
- bye
- 14:26:58 [Zakim]
- -kingsley
- 14:27:34 [bengee]
- leobard: next step after data finetuning
- 14:27:39 [bengee]
- ... UI / portal
- 14:28:06 [bengee]
- ... will send another mail to the group for further ideas, implementation proposals
- 14:28:13 [Zakim]
- -dunja
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- 14:28:45 [bengee]
- ivan thinks Fred's browser or the obviously built-in Fresnel support could be an intersting start
- 14:28:53 [ivan]
- topic: URI document
- 14:29:09 [bengee]
- (cool uris for the semweb)
- 14:29:17 [bengee]
- two open questions
- 14:29:27 [bengee]
- leo not sure about next step
- 14:29:31 [Dunja]
- sorry, something throw me out
- 14:29:40 [bengee]
- ivan: either publish it via dfki
- 14:29:55 [bengee]
- or somehwo else, but basically up to leo
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- s/somewho/somehow/
- 14:30:16 [bengee]
- topic: comm project
- 14:30:22 [ivan]
- topic: comm projects
- 14:30:48 [bengee]
- knowee: moving from concept pahse to design stage
- 14:30:52 [bengee]
- phase even
- 14:31:24 [bengee]
- skipping the remaining topics (survey, tech planery, f2f)
- 14:31:28 [bengee]
- AOB?
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- 3
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- 2
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- 1
- 14:31:37 [bengee]
- no
- 14:32:10 [PaulaP]
- ok
- 14:32:17 [LeeF_]
- ack LeeF
- 14:33:12 [PaulaP]
- bye
- 14:33:18 [Zakim]
- -PaulaP
- 14:33:40 [leobard]
- bye
- 14:33:41 [Zakim]
- -Leo
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- -bengee
- 14:34:26 [bengee]
- 'bye
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- -Ivan
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- SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Ivan, +49.895.480.aaaa, dunja, +49.892.180.aabb, bengee, PaulaP, LeeF, Leo, kingsley
- 14:51:01 [ivan]
- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/11-sweo-minutes.html ivan
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, bye
- 14:51:19 [RRSAgent]
- I see no action items