IRC log of dawg on 2007-07-10

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc

14:21:44 [LeeF]

zakim, this will be DAWG

14:21:44 [Zakim]

ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes

14:21:53 [LeeF]

Regrets: SteveH

14:21:59 [LeeF]

Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly

14:22:05 [LeeF]

Chair: LeeF

14:22:19 [LeeF]

agenda + convene, past minutes, next meeting

14:22:24 [LeeF]

agenda + review action items

14:22:41 [LeeF]

agenda + short name?

14:22:50 [LeeF]

agenda + EARL test results

14:23:00 [LeeF]

agenda + tests

14:23:04 [LeeF]

agenda + implementation report

14:27:11 [AndyS]

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SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started

14:27:41 [Zakim]

+??P2

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14:31:15 [AndyS]

Is the telecon on? Silence here (but I used the UK number)

14:31:29 [chimezie]

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14:31:30 [AndyS]

zakim, who is on the phone?

14:31:30 [Zakim]

On the phone I see ??P2

14:31:31 [Zakim]

+Lee_Feigenbaum

14:31:40 [AndyS]

zakim, ??P2 is me

14:31:40 [Zakim]

+AndyS; got it

14:31:44 [LeeF]

zakim, Lee_Feigenbaum is me

14:31:44 [Zakim]

+LeeF; got it

14:32:09 [ericP]

Zakim, please dial ericP-office

14:32:09 [Zakim]

ok, ericP; the call is being made

14:32:11 [Zakim]

+EricP

14:32:13 [ericP]

good bot

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+Chimezie_Ogbuji

14:34:14 [Zakim]

+Souri_Das

14:35:12 [LeeF]

zakim, take up first agendum

14:35:12 [Zakim]

I don't understand 'take up first agendum', LeeF

14:35:16 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

14:35:16 [Zakim]

agendum 1. "convene, past minutes, next meeting" taken up [from LeeF]

14:35:42 [AndyS]

Scribe: AndyS

14:35:59 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/att-0001/03-dawg-minutes.html Minutes from 3 July

14:36:43 [AndyS]

Seconded: AndyS and LeeF

14:36:48 [AndyS]

Accepted

14:37:17 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0090/19-dawg-minutes.html minutes from 19 Jun

14:38:09 [ericP]

just a sec...

14:38:32 [AndyS]

Seconded: AndyS

14:38:34 [AndyS]

Accepted

14:38:55 [AndyS]

Next time: July 17, usual time

14:39:03 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

14:39:03 [Zakim]

agendum 1 closed

14:39:04 [Zakim]

I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:39:05 [Zakim]

2. review action items [from LeeF]

14:39:06 [LeeF]

zakim, take up next agendum

14:39:06 [Zakim]

agendum 2. "review action items" taken up [from LeeF]

14:39:36 [LeeF]

ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES]

14:40:10 [LeeF]

ACTION: chimezie to post some early EARL test results to mailing list [DONE]

14:40:17 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Jul [CONTINUES]

14:40:34 [LeeF]

ACTION: chimezie and/or ericP to try running tests in data-r2/dataset and data-r2/graph and report results by July 10 [DONE]

14:40:48 [LeeF]

ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES]

14:41:24 [LeeF]

ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [CONTINUES]

14:41:35 [AndyS]

EricP: now pass dataset/ and graph/ tests

14:43:13 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES]

14:43:37 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES]

14:43:51 [LeeF]

ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES]

14:43:53 [LeeF]

...but progress

14:44:02 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES]

14:44:11 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES]

14:44:20 [LeeF]

ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES]

14:44:30 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [CONTINUES]

14:44:45 [LeeF]

zakim, agenda?

14:44:45 [Zakim]

I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:

14:44:46 [Zakim]

2. review action items [from LeeF]

14:44:47 [Zakim]

3. short name? [from LeeF]

14:44:49 [Zakim]

4. EARL test results [from LeeF]

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5. tests [from LeeF]

14:44:51 [Zakim]

6. implementation report [from LeeF]

14:45:47 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

14:45:47 [Zakim]

agendum 2 closed

14:45:48 [Zakim]

I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:45:49 [Zakim]

3. short name? [from LeeF]

14:46:05 [LeeF]

zakim, take up agendum 3

14:46:05 [Zakim]

agendum 3. "short name?" taken up [from LeeF]

14:46:15 [AndyS]

LeeF: can we get a short name for the SPARQL TR set of specs.

14:47:07 [AndyS]

EricP: TR space is automated - may be tricky

14:47:07 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agendum

14:47:07 [Zakim]

agendum 3 closed

14:47:08 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:47:09 [Zakim]

4. EARL test results [from LeeF]

14:47:52 [LeeF]

zakim, agendum?

14:47:52 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, LeeF.

14:47:55 [LeeF]

zakim, close this agenda?

14:47:55 [Zakim]

I don't understand your question, LeeF.

14:47:58 [LeeF]

zakim, agenda?

14:47:58 [Zakim]

I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:

14:47:59 [Zakim]

4. EARL test results [from LeeF]

14:48:01 [Zakim]

5. tests [from LeeF]

14:48:02 [Zakim]

6. implementation report [from LeeF]

14:48:04 [LeeF]

zakim, take up agendum 6

14:48:04 [Zakim]

agendum 6. "implementation report" taken up [from LeeF]

14:48:51 [chimezie]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0010.html Auto-generated SPARQL Algebra expressions for the algebra test suites

14:49:41 [AndyS]

-> http://www.sparql.org/validator.html Online service that will parse a query and print the algebra

14:50:19 [chimezie]

The idea here is to eyeball the algebra forms from tests and match them against a set of all possible forms

14:52:04 [LeeF]

ACTION: chimezie to go through manifests and generate algebraic forms using spec. syntax to compare with list in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0066.html [DONE]

14:53:01 [LeeF]

zakim, take up agendum 4

14:53:02 [Zakim]

agendum 4. "EARL test results" taken up [from LeeF]

14:53:13 [AndyS]

results from Chime and SteveH

14:53:22 [LeeF]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0005.html

14:59:38 [AndyS]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JulSep/0009.html

15:00:11 [AndyS]

Chimezie: GRDDL had a script to produce the impl report tables

15:02:05 [LeeF]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2006OctDec/0009.html

15:03:24 [Zakim]

-Chimezie_Ogbuji

15:06:07 [AndyS]

(WG reviews EricP's EARL output)

15:06:42 [LeeF]

ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)?

15:07:05 [Souri]

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15:07:31 [ericP]

-> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets facets list

15:08:05 [ericP]

roger

15:08:12 [ericP]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets-test.xsl

15:09:00 [ericP]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/facets.rs

15:09:20 [ericP]

perl -MSPARQL -e test < data-r2/syntax-sparql2/syntax-general-13.rq | xsltproc facets-test.xsl -

15:13:49 [AndyS]

FYI: New FOAF http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/20070524.html - URIs for people now preferred.

15:15:21 [ericP]

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/triple-match/data-02.ttl ACL sent at the speed of mail

15:15:35 [Zakim]

-Souri_Das

15:15:38 [Zakim]

-LeeF

15:15:55 [AndyS]

NP

15:16:10 [Zakim]

-EricP

15:16:17 [Zakim]

-AndyS

15:16:19 [Zakim]

SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended

15:16:20 [Zakim]

Attendees were AndyS, LeeF, EricP, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Souri_Das

15:16:27 [AndyS]

rrsagent, please draft minutes

15:16:27 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-minutes.html AndyS

15:16:33 [LeeF]

rrsagent, make logs world-access

15:16:53 [AndyS]

zakim, please leave

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rrsagent, please leave

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I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-actions.rdf :

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: AndyS or LeeF to mark non-SELECT tests using :QueryForm classes, and to move those URIs to the qt: namespace [CONTINUES] [1]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-39-36

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: chimezie to post some early EARL test results to mailing list [DONE] [2]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-40-10

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to run the construct tests by 17 Jul [CONTINUES] [3]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-40-17

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: chimezie and/or ericP to try running tests in data-r2/dataset and data-r2/graph and report results by July 10 [DONE] [4]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-40-34

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [5]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-40-48

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Eric+Andy: Collect all the testing feature URIs and put in the documentation [CONTINUES] [6]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-41-24

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP & chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [7]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-43-13

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [8]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-43-37

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES] [9]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-43-51

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [10]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-44-02

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP to write explanatory text saying that, like xsd:inteter and xsd:dateTime, the relative order of simple literals and xsd:strings is not defined here [CONTINUES] [11]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-44-11

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: ericP, AndyS to add the mf:requires labels to the manifest namespace document [CONTINUES] [12]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-44-20

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to mark approved sorting tests (1..10) as such [CONTINUES] [13]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-44-30

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: chimezie to go through manifests and generate algebraic forms using spec. syntax to compare with list in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0066.html [DONE] [14]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T14-52-04

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: LeeF to put up a document with sample EARL results and call out important points (e.g. foaf:homepage URI and/or URIs for implementations (object of earl:subject)? [15]

15:17:03 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/07/10-dawg-irc#T15-06-42