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13:52:02 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS WG
13:52:04 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
13:52:06 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:52:09 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
13:52:32 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html
13:52:37 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
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14:00:35 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
14:00:41 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
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14:01:15 <Zakim> +Felix
14:01:44 <YvesS> zakim, who is there?
14:01:44 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, YvesS.
14:01:48 <YvesS> zakim, who is here?
14:01:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Felix
14:01:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see chriLi, YvesS, RRSAgent, Zakim, fsasaki
14:01:56 <Zakim> +Christian
14:05:02 <fsasaki> topic: action items
14:05:18 <fsasaki> action: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing (DONE)
14:05:33 <fsasaki> action: Felix to check specref for references to examples (DONE)
14:05:39 <fsasaki> Felix: two AIs are the same
14:06:50 <fsasaki> action: Yves to provide mail about applying ITS in OpenOffice (DONE)
14:07:06 <fsasaki> Yves: feel free to add your own comments
14:07:37 <fsasaki> action: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 (DONE)
14:07:51 <fsasaki> Yves: looks like the other examples, just changing bullets
14:08:12 <fsasaki> topic: Reviewing W3C Work or other work for ITS
14:08:48 <fsasaki> Yves: started on XForms rules, not much to do
14:08:53 <fsasaki> .. post this later
14:09:27 <fsasaki> Felix: no new W3C LC drafts
14:09:43 <fsasaki> no news on XLIFF / SRX
14:10:02 <fsasaki> Christian: OASIS will request further comments, and we should be able to comment again
14:10:22 <fsasaki> .. if we comment now, it would be better
14:10:29 <fsasaki> Yves: is there s.t. we should comment on?
14:10:37 <fsasaki> Christian: not from an ITS perspective
14:11:55 <fsasaki> topic: Asking for comments to the W3C internationalization mailing list
14:12:03 <fsasaki> proposal from Felix
14:12:51 <fsasaki> Yves: we should not request comments on the item we are working, but the ones we worked on a week before
14:14:42 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/
14:16:02 <fsasaki> Felix: need to make sure that people from the WG are available to answer on comments
14:18:27 <fsasaki> .. we can send out a notice of the new public WD, with a note on what to comment on
14:23:01 <fsasaki> Yves: I think the first 6 are stable
14:24:00 <fsasaki> Felix: agree
14:24:47 <fsasaki> action: Felix to send out a request for comments on BP 1-6 after BP WD publication to the www-international list
14:24:48 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevRuby
14:24:56 <fsasaki> topic: BP discussion
14:25:19 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0070.html
14:25:51 <fsasaki> Felix: fine with Yves's reply to my mail
14:26:04 <fsasaki> Christian: agree as well
14:26:39 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0071.html
14:26:47 <fsasaki> Yves: pointer to ruby spec proposed by Felix
14:29:05 <YvesS> If you are working with an existing DTD or schema where there is a way to specify ruby text, for example the Ruby spec, you should provide an ITS rules document where you use the its:rubyRule element to associate your ruby markup with its equivalent in ITS
14:29:22 <fsasaki> .. Christian mentioned that W3C ruby annotation and its:ruby are kind of contradictory. Proposal from Yves to resolve this above
14:29:49 <fsasaki> Christian, Felix: +1 to Yves proposal
14:30:36 <fsasaki> Yves: issue of "ruby for translatable text"
14:33:06 <fsasaki> .. propose to leave generic text
14:33:09 <fsasaki> Christian: agree
14:34:01 <fsasaki> Yves: Christian's comment 3
14:34:01 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-ruby
14:34:13 <fsasaki> s/comment 3/comment 2/
14:36:34 <fsasaki> action: Yves to work on "why do this" section for BP 7
14:37:58 <fsasaki> Yves: agree with Christian proposal 4
14:38:02 <fsasaki> Felix: +1
14:39:35 <fsasaki> topic: ITS errata
14:39:37 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html
14:42:10 <fsasaki> Felix: we need to add the xml:lang declaration to all schemas
14:43:19 <fsasaki> RESOLUTION: agreement on adding xml:lang change to the errata list
14:43:28 <fsasaki> action: Felix to update the errata list
14:44:01 <fsasaki> topic: BP 8
14:44:02 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevLocNote
14:45:05 <fsasaki> Yves: agree with Felix proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0069.html
14:45:08 <fsasaki> Christian: +1
14:45:28 <fsasaki> Yves: Christian's comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0072.html
14:45:36 <fsasaki> Yves, Felix: agreement with comment 1
14:46:47 <fsasaki> comment 2 proposal (modification):
14:46:55 <fsasaki> "Make also sure that the its:rules element is available in the target document or a separate file"
14:47:45 <fsasaki> s/in the target document/in the document/
14:48:14 <fsasaki> agreement on the change
14:48:21 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll modify BP 8
14:49:13 <fsasaki> Yves: still need additional references
14:49:19 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
14:50:12 <fsasaki> Yves: proposal to cancel next two meetings
14:50:32 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0044.html
14:50:59 <fsasaki> (rescheduling necessary)
14:51:51 <fsasaki> Yves: I sent a mail with the new schedule
14:53:22 <fsasaki> topic: open office in ITS
14:53:26 <fsasaki> see http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75616
14:53:40 <fsasaki> "I currently don't see an advantage in the short term as all resource file types + extractor/merger have to be heavy modified to support this"
14:53:50 <fsasaki> unclear about meaning of reply
14:56:52 <fsasaki> discussion on how to continue on getting OO to use ITS
14:57:02 <Zakim> -Christian
14:57:03 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
14:57:03 <Zakim> -Felix
14:57:04 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
14:57:06 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Christian
14:57:44 <fsasaki> present+ Christian, Felix, Yves
14:57:50 <fsasaki> regrets+ Jirka
14:57:54 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:57:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
14:58:02 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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15:00:36 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
15:00:39 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
15:05:22 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-actions.rdf :
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing (DONE) [1]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-05-18
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to check specref for references to examples (DONE) [2]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-05-33
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to provide mail about applying ITS in OpenOffice (DONE) [3]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-06-50
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 (DONE) [4]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-07-37
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to send out a request for comments on BP 1-6 after BP WD publication to the www-international list [5]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-24-47
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to work on "why do this" section for BP 7 [6]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-36-34
15:05:22 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to update the errata list [7]
15:05:22 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-43-28
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