IRC log of i18nits on 2007-06-27
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- meeting: i18n ITS WG
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- chair: Yves
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- scribe: Felix
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- scribeNick: fsasaki
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
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- +Yves_Savourel
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- +Felix
- 14:01:44 [YvesS]
- zakim, who is there?
- 14:01:44 [Zakim]
- I don't understand your question, YvesS.
- 14:01:48 [YvesS]
- zakim, who is here?
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- On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Felix
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- On IRC I see chriLi, YvesS, RRSAgent, Zakim, fsasaki
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- +Christian
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- topic: action items
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- action: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing (DONE)
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- action: Felix to check specref for references to examples (DONE)
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- Felix: two AIs are the same
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- action: Yves to provide mail about applying ITS in OpenOffice (DONE)
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- Yves: feel free to add your own comments
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- action: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 (DONE)
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- Yves: looks like the other examples, just changing bullets
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- topic: Reviewing W3C Work or other work for ITS
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- Yves: started on XForms rules, not much to do
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- .. post this later
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- Felix: no new W3C LC drafts
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- no news on XLIFF / SRX
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- Christian: OASIS will request further comments, and we should be able to comment again
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- .. if we comment now, it would be better
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- Yves: is there s.t. we should comment on?
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- Christian: not from an ITS perspective
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- topic: Asking for comments to the W3C internationalization mailing list
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- proposal from Felix
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- Yves: we should not request comments on the item we are working, but the ones we worked on a week before
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/
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- Felix: need to make sure that people from the WG are available to answer on comments
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- .. we can send out a notice of the new public WD, with a note on what to comment on
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- Yves: I think the first 6 are stable
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- Felix: agree
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- action: Felix to send out a request for comments on BP 1-6 after BP WD publication to the www-international list
- 14:24:48 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevRuby
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- topic: BP discussion
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0070.html
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- Felix: fine with Yves's reply to my mail
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- Christian: agree as well
- 14:26:39 [YvesS]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0071.html
- 14:26:47 [fsasaki]
- Yves: pointer to ruby spec proposed by Felix
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- If you are working with an existing DTD or schema where there is a way to specify ruby text, for example the Ruby spec, you should provide an ITS rules document where you use the its:rubyRule element to associate your ruby markup with its equivalent in ITS
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- .. Christian mentioned that W3C ruby annotation and its:ruby are kind of contradictory. Proposal from Yves to resolve this above
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- Christian, Felix: +1 to Yves proposal
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- Yves: issue of "ruby for translatable text"
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- .. propose to leave generic text
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- Christian: agree
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- Yves: Christian's comment 3
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- http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-ruby
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- s/comment 3/comment 2/
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- action: Yves to work on "why do this" section for BP 7
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- Yves: agree with Christian proposal 4
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- Felix: +1
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- topic: ITS errata
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0057.html
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- Felix: we need to add the xml:lang declaration to all schemas
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- RESOLUTION: agreement on adding xml:lang change to the errata list
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- action: Felix to update the errata list
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- topic: BP 8
- 14:44:02 [YvesS]
- http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevLocNote
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- Yves: agree with Felix proposal at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0069.html
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- Christian: +1
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- Yves: Christian's comments at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0072.html
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- Yves, Felix: agreement with comment 1
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- comment 2 proposal (modification):
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- "Make also sure that the its:rules element is available in the target document or a separate file"
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- s/in the target document/in the document/
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- agreement on the change
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- Yves: I'll modify BP 8
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- Yves: still need additional references
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- topic: AOB
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- Yves: proposal to cancel next two meetings
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- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0044.html
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- (rescheduling necessary)
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- Yves: I sent a mail with the new schedule
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- topic: open office in ITS
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- see http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=75616
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- "I currently don't see an advantage in the short term as all resource file types + extractor/merger have to be heavy modified to support this"
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- unclear about meaning of reply
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- discussion on how to continue on getting OO to use ITS
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- -Christian
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- -Yves_Savourel
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- -Felix
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- I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Christian
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- present+ Christian, Felix, Yves
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- regrets+ Jirka
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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- zakim, bye
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- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
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- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing (DONE) [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-05-18
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- ACTION: Felix to check specref for references to examples (DONE) [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-05-33
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- ACTION: Yves to provide mail about applying ITS in OpenOffice (DONE) [3]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-06-50
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- ACTION: Yves to rewrite the definition of the rule in example 13 (DONE) [4]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-07-37
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- ACTION: Felix to send out a request for comments on BP 1-6 after BP WD publication to the www-international list [5]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-24-47
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- ACTION: Yves to work on "why do this" section for BP 7 [6]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-36-34
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- ACTION: Felix to update the errata list [7]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/27-i18nits-irc#T14-43-28
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