IRC log of wai-wcag on 2007-06-21
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc
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- RRSAgent, do not start a new log
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- RRSAgent, make log world
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- zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
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- ok, Ben_; I see WAI_WCAG()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago
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- Meeting: WCAG Weekly Telecon
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- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007AprJun/0194.html
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- Chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- ScribeOptions: -scribeOnly
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- Regrets: Cynthia_Shelly
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- agenda+ Announcements, Questions, and Updates
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- agenda+ New issue tracking system
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- agenda+ Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007
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- agenda+ Alternate Versions Editorial Note
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- +??P2
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- +Cooper
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- zakim, ??P2 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- +??P6
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- zakim, ??P6 is Roberto_Scano
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- +Roberto_Scano; got it
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- zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
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- ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
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- +Andrew_LaHart
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- +Sofia_Celic
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- +??P9
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- zakim, ??P9 is Ben_Caldwell
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- +Ben_Caldwell; got it
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- + +7.971.aaaa
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- +Alex_Li
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- zakim, Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
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- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
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- zakim, +1.7.971 is Sean_Hayes
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- sorry, MichaelC, I do not recognize a party named '+1.7.971'
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- zakim, +7.971 is Sean_Hayes
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- +Sean_Hayes; got it
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- +[IBM]
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- zakim, IBM is Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- +Andi_Snow-Weaver; got it
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- +[IPcaller]
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- +Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- Zakim, [IPcaller is Roberto_Ellero
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- +Roberto_Ellero; got it
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- +??P24
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- zakim, ??P24 is Bengt_Farre
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- +Bengt_Farre; got it
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- zakim, who is on the phone?
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- On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Andrew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, Ben_Caldwell, Sean_Hayes, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Katie_Haritos-Shea (muted),
- 20:07:32 [Zakim]
- ... Andi_Snow-Weaver, Roberto_Ellero, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Bengt_Farre
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- Ben_Caldwell has Gregg_Vanderheiden
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- http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/
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- http://trace.wisc.edu/bugzilla_wcag/issuereports/
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- ack b
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- +Bruce_Bailey
- 20:17:11 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from Ben_]
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- scribe: Christophe
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- If any questions or problems with the new issue tracking system: send mail to Gregg and Ben.
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- zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 2. "New issue tracking system" taken up [from Ben_]
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- zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 2 was just opened, Christophe
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- q+
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007" taken up [from Ben_]
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- ack g
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- Survey results at http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070621misc/results
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- Topic: Issue 1958: Is not "naming" a form control a failure?
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- ack s
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- q+
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- ack c
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- UA and AT support notes of H44: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS-20070521/Overview.html#H44
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- +Tim_Boland
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- +David_MacDonald
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- q+
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- ack b
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- ack a
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- Q+
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- ACK B
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- ack g
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- Action: DMD record @@ action about "name" linking in spec ("name" attribute vs other meaning) in the issue
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- Issue sent back.
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- Topic: Issue 1977: use of null alt
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- Action: David and Sofia to discuss addition to response re null alt
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- Resolution: accepted as amended with Michael's comment
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- Topic: Issue 1993: F42: state that items are not tab-navigable
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- Resolution: accepted as amended ("Failure of SC 1.3.1 and 2.4.1 due to using scripting events to emulate links")
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- Topic: Issue 1443: F42: Suggestions for making website easier to understand
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- Sent back.
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- Topic: Issue 1978: clarify differences between text, images of text and visually rendered text
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- ack a
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- q+
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- ack l
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- Resolution: accepted as amended with Gregg's and Michael's suggestions (and remove parentheses from SC 1.4.3 and SC 1.4.5)
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- Topic: Issue 1971: add our titling requirement as a technique for creating accessible titles
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- Resolution: accepted as amended.
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- -Katie_Haritos-Shea
- 21:12:33 [Gregg]
- q+
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- zakim, next agendume
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- I don't understand 'next agendume', Christophe
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- zakim, next agendum
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- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Christophe
- 21:12:47 [Loretta]
- ack b
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- zakim, next agendum
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- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Christophe
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- ack g
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- zakim, next agendum
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- agendum 2. "New issue tracking system" taken up [from Ben_]
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Alternate Versions Editorial Note" taken up [from Ben_]
- 21:14:21 [Christophe]
- Conformance Requirements: http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#conformance-reqs
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- Alternate Versions Conformance Requirement: http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/2007/05/alternate-versions.html
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- ack s
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- q+
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- ack a
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack d
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- q+
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- q+
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- ack l
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- ack g
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- ack a
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- q+
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- ack g
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- q+
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- -Roberto_Ellero
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- ack l
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- -Andrew_LaHart
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- q+
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- -Roberto_Scano
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- ack a
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- q+
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- q+
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- ack b
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- q+
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- ack l
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- q+
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- ack d
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Tim_Boland
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- ack a
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- +Bruce_Bailey
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- ack g
- 21:53:51 [Christophe]
- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Miscellaneous Proposals for June 21, 2007" taken up [from Ben_]
- 21:55:18 [Christophe]
- Resolution: accept 666 and 1975 as proposed
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- Resolution: Issue 1132: Provide a progressive complexity for both site and page content...: accepted as proposed.
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- Resolution: Issue 2000: Adding "at least" to second sentances of 1.4.3 & 1.4.5 :accepted as amended (add "at least", drop "can")
- 21:58:21 [Christophe]
- Resolution: Issue 1999: Definition of Levels with respect to impact on people with disabilities: accepted as amended (remove quotation mark at beginning of sentence)
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- -Andi_Snow-Weaver
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- Resolution: Issue 1990: LC-1437 follow up - font scaling: accepted as amended.
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- -Sofia_Celic
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- -Bengt_Farre
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- -Sean_Hayes
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- -Bruce_Bailey
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- -Ben_Caldwell
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- -Cooper
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- -David_MacDonald
- 22:01:14 [Christophe]
- Issue 1992: Trying to help readability: next week.
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Alex_Li
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- -Loretta_Guarino_Reid
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- WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Bruce_Bailey, Cooper, Roberto_Scano, Andrew_LaHart, Sofia_Celic, +7.971.aaaa, Christophe_Strobbe, Alex_Li, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Sean_Hayes,
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- ... Andi_Snow-Weaver, [IPcaller], Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Roberto_Ellero, Bengt_Farre, Tim_Boland, David_MacDonald
- 22:23:06 [Ben_]
- zakim, bye
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- 22:23:13 [Ben_]
- RRSAgent, pointer?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T22-23-13
- 22:23:21 [Ben_]
- RRSAgent, bye
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- I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: DMD record @@ action about "name" linking in spec ("name" attribute vs other meaning) in the issue [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-33-40
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- ACTION: David and Sofia to discuss addition to response re null alt [2]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-wai-wcag-irc#T20-46-06