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Ubiquitous Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
21 Jun 2007

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Dave, Stephane, Rhys, Jose_Cantera, Keith_Waters, Rotan
Regrets
Sailesh, Kevin
Chair
Dave
Scribe
jcantera2

Contents


 

 

<trackbot-ng> Date: 21 June 2007

<scribe> scribenick: jcantera2

minutes approval

RESOLUTION: Minutes are approved

DCCI publication of working draft

<Rhys> latest editor's draft is at http://www.w3.org/2007/uwa/editors-drafts/DeliveryContextClientInterface/2007-06-30/DCCI.html

keith: review of last call procedures

<steph> 1- define the period

<steph> 2- define the scope of the review

<steph> 3- define the mailing-list for the commentors

keith: all should be transitioned to uwa with respect to the mailing list isn't it?
... I'm happy to go with any suggestions

<steph> 4- the list of group to ask review

<steph> (specifically)

<steph> 5- the list to spam to announce the LC

Rhys: In DISelect we had an specific mailing list

<steph> 6- who will deal with the the DoC document
...: we need to discuss a couple of things before going with publication

Rhys: section 2.1 conformance

<steph> 7-provide a diff since the CR

<Rhys> Resolution: Agree to leave the use of the isSupported method in section 7.1 the way it is currently written in the draft

<Rhys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-uwa/2007Jun/0064.html

Rhys: Sailesh was looking to an older version of the document and the typos have been already fixed
...: The names of the properties completely separate from DOM Element names
... that was Sailesh's position
... I think we decided time ago tto use element names

keith: I don't see arguments for separating

Rhys: We need a discussion with him. We cannot go to publication until we talk to Sailesh

steph: Next week call?

dsr: How long should we stay in last call?

Rhys: what's minum?

steph: 4 weeks

Rhys: minimum is reasonable

dsr: +1

steph: should we limit the review of the spec?

keith: keep it focused, the element / node issue
... require comments directly from DOM IG

steph: We should describe why we are going back in the document

dsr: any other groups interested in review it?

<Rhys> ACTION: Rhys to send Stephane a description of the key change that required moving DCCI back to LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-27 - Send Stephane a description of the key change that required moving DCCI back to LC [on Rhys Lewis - due 2007-06-28].

dsr: Web API and WAF

keith: One of them

Rhys: the same we asked last time

steph: last time was a wide review
...: DOM IG could be the one to which require specific feedback

<Rotan> You can count on my "Chair's Hat" positive response, when it comes to it.

<Dave> we should invite comments from DOM IG and copy chairs, hcg and public-uwa

steph: specific mailing list ?

<steph> public-DCCI-LC-comments

Rhys: specific

<Rotan> Does "LC" have to be in the mailing list name?

good question Rotan

<Rotan> Yip. That's better: public-dcci-comments

<Rhys> I note that the DISelect list is called public-diselect-editors

<Rotan> Are the comments going to the group, or just to the editors?

Rhys: last call comment tracker should be based

<Rotan> If to the group, then public-dcci-comments sounds better than public-dcci-editors.

<Rotan> +1 to tracker

steph: We need to provide diff sections
...: something that describes what was the previous content

steph: it could be an appendix

dsr: other points?

<Rhys> ACTION: Rhys to add an appendix detailing the changes in the new version of DCCI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-28 - Add an appendix detailing the changes in the new version of DCCI [on Rhys Lewis - due 2007-06-28].

CC/PP 2 comments

dsr: some comments on CC/PP 2

steph: I will enter all in the tracker

<Dave> (steph is taking over from Cedric)
...: most of the comments are editorial

<Rhys> +1 to Stephane's suggestion to discuss the items in more detail once they are in the LC tracker and the LC period is complete

<steph> stephane: we will bring cc/pp 2.0 on the agenda

<steph> after july 6 (end of the extended review period)

<steph> and after i enter all teh comments in the cc/pp2.0 lc tracker

Getting started on new work items and a report from the REX PAG, see [3]

dsr: a final call from the REX PAG

<Dave> minutes from final REX PAG call http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-rexp-minutes.html

Rhys: we should close REX PAG with no resolution

<Rotan> Will be able to be in start discussions of layout, just before I go on vacation.

<Rhys> Just to clarify, the REX V1 PAG is likely to close. There may be a need to reopen something when REX V2 work kicks off

<Rotan> +1 to Jose re September.

<Rhys> +1 to Jose re September

<Rhys> Jose suggests starting the layout work in September

<Rotan> Moving DISelect to next stage is a good issue to cover.

DISelect

<steph> http://www.w3.org/2007/uwa/trackbot/actions/20

steph: we need to record group decision

<Rotan> Are we quorate?

<steph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-uwa/2007Jun/0025.html

dsr: any objections to move into CR?

<Rotan> No objections from me re moving to CR.

<Rhys> Resolution: Move DISelect and XAF to CR

<Dave> ACTION: Rhys to add changes since LCWD to the draft CR for DISelect/XAF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-29 - Add changes since LCWD to the draft CR for DISelect/XAF [on Rhys Lewis - due 2007-06-28].

<Rhys> ACTION: Rhys to provide a section on the changes since LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot-ng> Created ACTION-30 - Provide a section on the changes since LC [on Rhys Lewis - due 2007-06-28].

steph: what we are going to test?

<Dave> trackbot-agent, drop ACTION-29

steph: We need an implementation of both profiles

Rhys: We need two implementations of each feature

<Dave> Dave notes WAF WG plan to stop its work on declarative formats for apps and UI, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-archive/2007Jun/0133.html

<Rotan> +1 to the idea

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Rhys to add an appendix detailing the changes in the new version of DCCI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Rhys to add changes since LCWD to the draft CR for DISelect/XAF [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Rhys to provide a section on the changes since LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: Rhys to send Stephane a description of the key change that required moving DCCI back to LC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-uwawg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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