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17:46:03 <AllanJ> rrsagent, set logs public
17:46:19 <AllanJ> zakim, this will be wai_u
17:46:19 <Zakim> ok, AllanJ; I see WAI_UAWG()2:00PM scheduled to start in 14 minutes
17:47:55 <AllanJ> title: User Agent Teleconference
17:48:03 <AllanJ> scribe: JR
17:48:12 <AllanJ> Chair: Jim Allan
17:48:58 <AllanJ> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007AprJun/0068.html
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17:55:01 <Zakim> WAI_UAWG()2:00PM has now started
17:55:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:57:28 <JR> JR has joined #ua
17:57:36 <JR> Scribe: JR
17:57:59 <KFord> What's the command to tell the system Microsoft is kford?
17:58:26 <Zakim> +??P1
17:58:47 <JR> zakim, ??P1 is really JR
17:58:47 <Zakim> +JR; got it
17:58:54 <Zakim> +allanj
18:01:02 <KFord> zakim,]microsoft is really kford
18:01:02 <Zakim> sorry, KFord, I do not recognize a party named ']microsoft'
18:01:14 <AllanJ> zakim, [Microsot] is really kford
18:01:14 <Zakim> sorry, AllanJ, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsot]'
18:01:25 <AllanJ> zakim, [Microsoft] is really kford
18:01:25 <Zakim> +kford; got it
18:02:21 <Zakim> +[IBM]
18:02:44 <JR> zakim, [IBM] is really cklaws
18:02:44 <Zakim> +cklaws; got it
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18:04:08 <JR> JA: No meeting on July 5
18:04:23 <JR> JA: JA is out of town next wwek (June 28th)
18:04:42 <Zakim> +[IBM]
18:04:53 <JR> Topic: 2. review? Roles for Accessible Rich Internet Applications (WAI-ARIA Roles)
18:05:07 <JR> JA: WAI ARIA has new "roles" doc
18:05:31 <JR> JA: CHange history shows some roles removed, some added.
18:05:42 <JR> JA: Not sure changes are enough that we need to comment
18:05:59 <JR> KF: Has read them....
18:06:24 <JR> CL: Will look at it from UA perspective, other IBMers also looking at it.
18:06:40 <JR> JA: Pls send comments to PF as well as UA
18:07:10 <JR> KF: Change history shows not many substantive changes.
18:07:36 <JR> CL: Happening at DOM level in most browsers
18:07:47 <JR> CL: In Firefox, also at api level
18:08:30 <JR> CL: If you write own widget spec you need to know ARIA
18:08:51 <JR> CL: ARIA all geared to XHTML...
18:09:09 <JR> CL: THere is another doc that looks at doing it in HTML
18:09:51 <JR> CL: Will add to mtg notes...
18:10:33 <JR> JA: Related...have been reviewing TEITAC content guidelines against HTML4 and 5
18:10:43 <JR> JA: Lots changing in HTML5
18:10:43 <cklaws> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/adaptable/HTML4/embedding-20061212.html
18:10:59 <JR> JA: Hope PF is looking at HTML5
18:11:22 <JR> CL: Recommend everyone on this group be on xtech
18:11:56 <JR> JA: HTML5 is a massive working group
18:12:34 <JR> JA: Gregory Rosmita is on the WG
18:13:39 <AllanJ> wai-xtech
18:13:51 <JR> CL: To join, send a msg to Al Gilman.
18:14:12 <JR> Topic: 1. Wiki - structure and use discussion
18:14:29 <JR> JA: Pls make accounts and send login account names to Jan.
18:15:10 <JR> http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/wiki/FrontPage
18:15:23 <JR> JA: We need to decide how we want to use it.
18:15:30 <JR> http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/wiki/UaagDocument
18:15:41 <JR> Just pasted the main UAAG doc URL.
18:20:20 <AllanJ> JR: reviewing the wiki, options for working with it.
18:21:24 <AllanJ> PP: describes RST, moin-moin
18:21:40 <JR> PP: "Import" command in moinmoin
18:23:19 <JR> JA: Peter have you seen convention guides?
18:24:09 <JR> PP: Does have DIFF
18:24:17 <JR> CL: But only in this view
18:26:23 <JR> PP: Also could get email set up as an RSS feed.
18:27:17 <JR> JA: So should be go ahead at guidelines level for now
18:27:50 <JR> JR: Can populate by Monday
18:28:45 <JR> JA: Issues tracking table - include in the Wiki in the appropriate checkpoint
18:29:41 <JR> KF: Can we also make the Normative Inclusions/Exclusions as Headers
18:32:59 <JR> JA: One thing that has come up is structural issues...
18:33:15 <JR> JA: We might want to start capturing these things
18:34:18 <JR> JR: Can add new page for playing with TOC
18:34:33 <JR> CL: Maybe also need discussion flag
18:35:48 <JR> KF: "Group Talk" could be key word.
18:36:38 <AllanJ> latest checklist is www.tsbvi.edu/technology/uawg/checklist-jan182007.htm
18:36:44 <JR> PP: May be macros...todo...
18:37:59 <JR> PP: Will look for macro syntax
18:42:10 <JR> JR: Use CamelCase to make new pages -then use Empty page
18:43:18 <JR> KF: Let's meet up next week to divide things up.
18:43:33 <JR> JR: Will make a checkpoint sandbox
18:44:04 <JR> Topic: WCAG Comments
18:44:17 <JR> JA: Any other issues
18:46:00 <JR> JA: I'm comfortable sending them in as a group.
18:46:35 <JR> KF: Microsoft also has an internal collection process.
18:48:00 <JR> JA: Haven't looked at the commenting site.]
19:07:01 <Zakim> -kford
19:07:03 <Zakim> -[IBM]
19:07:04 <Zakim> -cklaws
19:07:17 <JR> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2007AprJun/0069.html
19:08:15 <JR> RRSAgent, make minutes
19:08:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/21-ua-minutes.html JR
19:08:24 <JR> RRSAgent, set logs public
19:08:32 <JR> Zakim, bye
19:08:32 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were JR, allanj, kford, cklaws, [IBM]
19:08:32 <Zakim> Zakim has left #ua
19:09:20 <JR> RRSAgent, bye
19:09:20 <RRSAgent> I see no action items