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15:00:41 <ericP> Zakim, this will be HCLS
15:00:41 <Zakim> ok, ericP, I see SW_HCLS()11:00AM already started
15:00:47 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
15:00:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see Don_Doherty, ??P2, Vipul_Kashyap
15:00:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Don, jar286, ericP
15:00:50 <Zakim> +Kei_Cheung
15:01:15 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Rees
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15:01:34 <ericP> too late, Tonya 
15:01:38 <ericP> already did the dance
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15:01:58 <Tonya> invite zakim #hcls
15:02:18 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
15:02:18 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
15:02:20 <Zakim> +EricP
15:02:20 <Zakim> +Olivier_Bodenreider
15:02:35 <Tonya> invite RRSAgent #hcls
15:02:50 <ericP> Tonya, i already did that stuff
15:03:02 <Zakim> +Tanya_Hongsermeier
15:03:54 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
15:03:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see Don_Doherty, ??P2, Vipul_Kashyap, Kei_Cheung, Jonathan_Rees, Olivier_Bodenreider, EricP, Tanya_Hongsermeier
15:03:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see vipul, matthiassamwald, Tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, Don, jar286, ericP
15:03:57 <Zakim> +Eric_Neumann
15:04:52 <jar286> FYI jar286 = Jonathan Rees (at Science Commons)
15:05:32 <ericP> agenda + roll
15:05:36 <ericP> agenda + next call
15:05:45 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 1
15:05:45 <Zakim> agendum 1. "roll" taken up [from ericP]
15:05:48 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 2
15:05:48 <Zakim> agendum 2. "next call" taken up [from ericP]
15:06:44 <ericP> next meeting: 12 July, chair: Tonya
15:06:54 <ericP> agenda + meeting state
15:06:59 <ericP> agenda + upcoming demos
15:07:07 <ericP> agenda + hclsig draft charter
15:07:15 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 3
15:07:15 <Zakim> agendum 3. "meeting state" taken up [from ericP]
15:07:29 <Tonya> eric P can you scribe
15:08:19 <ericP> ericN: bioinformatics meeting in piza (SP?) 
15:08:31 <ericP> ... hardcore bioinformatics group
15:08:49 <Tonya> http://www.nettab.org/
15:08:51 <jar286> this agendum was Eric's the email: "e) URI discussion with input from BioRDF discussion" but it's fine with me if it's dropped - we have too many things already
15:08:59 <jar286> s/the//
15:09:25 <ericP> ... folks didn't know where to start with RDF
15:09:35 <ericP> ... need to make more cookbook descriptions
15:09:55 <helen> helen has joined #hcls
15:10:15 <ericP> ... pubmed+ [society for med science]
15:10:21 <Tonya> greetings helen
15:10:28 <helen> Hi, Tonya
15:10:37 <jar286> ericP, that's society for neuroscience
15:10:43 <Zakim> +Helen_Chen
15:10:50 <ericP> s/med science/neuroscience/
15:10:59 <ericP> Zakim, ??P2 is Helen
15:10:59 <Zakim> +Helen; got it
15:11:29 <ericP> ericN: have not explicitly decided to use RDF
15:11:38 <ericP> ... last year had not heard of RDF
15:11:52 <ericP> ... this year, nearly every slide had RDF in it
15:12:02 <ericP> ... also presented at the CDC
15:12:17 <ericP> ... using RDF to do surveillance on diseases
15:12:27 <ericP> ... headed by Denise Richards
15:12:49 <vipul> q+ Re: CDC Public Health Informatics
15:12:54 <vipul> q+
15:13:05 <ericP> ... invited them to participate (they are not members)
15:13:31 <Tonya> ack vipul
15:13:37 <ericP> ... will demonstrate inter-organization exchange to the EPA
15:15:26 <ericP> ... Drug Information Association meeting:
15:15:56 <vipul> Case Study: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/UniTexas/
15:16:02 <vipul> Name: Parsa Mirhaji
15:16:17 <ericP> ...   four presentations from {??? ???. ???, and Robbert Von Manen: (SP?)}
15:16:27 <vipul> welcome
15:16:59 <ericP> ... we are getting more big players interested in attending our calls
15:17:15 <ericP> Zakim, next agendum
15:17:15 <Zakim> agendum 1. "roll" taken up [from ericP]
15:17:21 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 3
15:17:21 <Zakim> agendum 3. "meeting state" taken up [from ericP]
15:17:41 <ericP> tonya: how will we prepare for ??? in austria
15:17:56 <ericP> matthias: going well. getting feedback on poster
15:18:16 <ericP> ... most involvement from people who participated in the abstract
15:18:30 <jar286> ericP, ??? = ISMB (intelligent systems for molecular biology, big big conference)
15:18:31 <ericP> ... making good progress on the health care map
15:19:09 <ericP> ericN: we want to add better views before demo time
15:19:49 <ericP> ... views would have balance of text and images
15:20:05 <jar286> I agree, we need a better name for Banff demo. Alan and I will work on this but suggestions welcome.
15:20:27 <ericP> ... i will work with jonathan and alan to get the specifics down
15:21:04 <ericP> matthias: not many people from this telecon will be there
15:21:20 <ericP> ericN: i expect 6 or 7 of us
15:21:35 <ericP> ... demo slot probably 1 hour
15:22:16 <ericP> ... expect ~40-80 people
15:22:33 <ericP> ... denis quan and i did one and got around 60 folks
15:22:50 <ericP> </ISMB>
15:23:07 <ericP> tonya: drug discovery meetings in august
15:23:16 <ericP> ericN: discussing with karen meyers
15:23:29 <ericP> ... my have luncheon
15:23:46 <ericP> ... so folks should contact ericN to get invitation
15:24:05 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 4
15:24:05 <Zakim> agendum 4. "upcoming demos" taken up [from ericP]
15:24:07 <ericP> Zakim, take up agendum 5
15:24:07 <Zakim> agendum 5. "hclsig draft charter" taken up [from ericP]
15:24:17 <vipul> q+
15:24:35 <ericP> ericN: how many would like another f2f before charter expiry in oct
15:24:40 <ericP> ...?
15:24:47 <ericP> jar286: i would
15:24:56 <ericP> vipul: can we do it at the TP?
15:25:03 <ericP> kei: +1
15:25:11 <Tonya> where is the TP?
15:25:14 <jar286> JAR would be interested in attending f2f
15:25:26 <ericP> Don: neurscience plenary is around the same time
15:26:07 <ericP> ericN: should have a meeting near cleveland clinic
15:26:37 <ericP> ... tension between that and boston
15:26:54 <ericP> helen: current group has lots of informal f2fs
15:27:31 <ericP> ... for formal one, need justifying agenda
15:27:50 <ericP> ericN: goal is to finish up and discuss the deliverables from the AMS meeting
15:28:06 <ericP> ... discuss which ones need to continue into new group
15:28:11 <vipul> q+
15:28:43 <ericP> ... task forces have delivered stuff on the wiki, but need to produce formal documents (W3C Notes)
15:28:54 <ericP> ... need to linearize the wiki content
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15:29:19 <ericP> ... would like URI issue to be well-understood and documented for other groups
15:29:28 <BillBug> Sorry I'm late
15:29:28 <jar286> funny thing, i'm working on just such a document (for uris)
15:30:41 <jar286> what's eric n talking about? a draft of what?
15:30:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:31:15 <jar286> new working group charter maybe?
15:31:17 <ericP> jar286, charter
15:31:20 <jar286> ok
15:31:39 <ericP> Zakim, [IPcaller] is BillBug
15:31:39 <Zakim> +BillBug; got it
15:32:04 <ericP> ericN: made a wiki from the notes taken in Banff
15:32:17 <ericP> ... jar286 has a more cleaned-up document
15:32:45 <ericP> jar286: am still getting the wiki organized
15:32:50 <ericP> ... trying 2nd approach
15:33:09 <ericP> ... first was to make my own set of documents, but didn't get much response
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15:33:46 <Zakim> +Alan
15:34:35 <ericP> ericN: need to elevate this from BioRDF to the general HCLS group
15:36:55 <BillBug> can someone please post the URL for JAR's URI docs on the Wiki
15:39:24 <jar286> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices/Recommendations#preview
15:39:29 <jar286> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLSIG_BioRDF_Subgroup/Tasks/URI_Best_Practices/Recommendations
15:41:34 <ericP> BillBug: can we extend the wiki to accumlated requirements and feedback?
15:41:42 <ericP> ... want to track/address issues
15:43:33 <jar286> eric n is asking who has been on the biordf call
15:46:43 <jar286> eric n: the mailing list doesn't work
15:47:04 <ericP> alan: tell anyone you know who is interested to contact jar286
15:47:47 <ericP> ericN: agreed
15:48:02 <Tonya> jar286 = Jonathan Rees
15:48:08 <ericP> ... do you expect consensus/resolution within the next 6 months?
15:49:40 <jar286> ok... wiki doesn't work, so send email. email doesn't work, so join the telecon. hmm.
15:50:24 <ericP> PROPOSED: Jonathan Rees is the editor of the URIs best practices document. All parties with issues with that document should contact him.
15:50:28 <ericP> RESOLVED
15:50:31 <jar286> for me to do: move some info from work plan timeline to main page for project
15:52:31 <jar286> alan: hard to get things done over summer, so earlier target than sep 20 not realistic
15:52:34 <jar286> sep 30
15:52:55 <ericP> let's got for last workday: friday 28 Sept
15:53:39 <ericP> alanr: folks should not be looking at uniprot; that's not hcls output. they should look at the URIs best practices document
15:53:50 <jar286> q+ ericn
15:54:30 <Tonya> ack vipul
15:54:34 <ericP> q- vipul
15:54:38 <ericP> ack ericn
15:54:40 <Tonya> ack ericn
15:54:47 <BillBug> q+
15:55:37 <Zakim> -Helen
15:56:46 <ericP> ericN: do we want to treat email-only proposals with the same weight as those who attend the calls?
15:56:48 <Zakim> -Eric_Neumann
15:57:15 <ericP> alanr: issue is whether they take the time to defend/clarify their points in some forum
15:57:44 <jar286> ericN is here with me
15:58:10 <BillBug> q+
15:58:27 <alanr> eric=mom
15:58:56 <ericP> ACTION: ericN to organize a URI best practices call
15:58:58 <ericP> q?
15:59:03 <ericP> ack BillBug
16:00:05 <ericP> BillBug: most NUH-funded neurinformatics projects need to be incorporated (into ???)
16:00:21 <ericP> ... NIH blueprint cite has a list of resources
16:01:08 <jar286> billbug, i thought biordf group was working on data source modeling & conversion? topic was discussed last monday i think.
16:01:12 <ericP> ... if we can provide SPARQL enpoints for a couple of these resources, we'll [set a compelling example]
16:02:30 <Zakim> -Alan
16:02:35 <BillBug> blueprint main page: http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/
16:02:39 <jar286> alanr and i are requesting help with banff demo server log file analysis
16:02:40 <ericP> Zakim, please make logs world-readable
16:02:40 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please make logs world-readable', ericP
16:02:42 <ericP> Zakim, please make logs world readable
16:02:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please make logs world readable', ericP
16:02:46 <ericP> Zakim, please make record world readable
16:02:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please make record world readable', ericP
16:03:18 <ericP> Zakim, please make logs world access
16:03:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please make logs world access', ericP
16:03:21 <ericP> Zakim, make logs world access
16:03:21 <Zakim> I don't understand 'make logs world access', ericP
16:03:24 <alanr> alanr has left #hcls
16:03:29 <ericP> Zakim, please make logs world-access
16:03:29 <Zakim> I don't understand 'please make logs world-access', ericP
16:03:34 <ericP> AGH!!!!
16:03:53 <ericP> RRSAgent, please make logs world-access
16:04:02 <ericP> aha, i was talking to the wrong bot
16:04:32 <Tonya> is there a study guide to using Zakim?
16:04:36 <BillBug> NIH blueprint resources:
16:04:38 <BillBug> http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/neuroscience_resources/cell_tissue.htm
16:04:39 <BillBug> http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/neuroscience_resources/gene_protein.htm
16:04:41 <BillBug> http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/neuroscience_resources/neuroinformatics.htm
16:04:42 <BillBug> http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/neuroscience_resources/imaging_tools.htm
16:04:44 <ericP> Zakim, help
16:04:44 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
16:04:44 <BillBug> http://neuroscienceblueprint.nih.gov/neuroscience_resources/animal_models.htm
16:04:45 <BillBug> The idea here is of these resources - those that are rich data repositories would though metadata that could provide a URL upon resolving a SPARQL query that leads to the relevant data should be given priority.
16:04:46 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
16:04:47 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
16:04:52 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
16:04:55 <ericP> oops
16:04:55 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
16:04:57 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
16:04:58 <ericP> TMI
16:04:59 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
16:05:01 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
16:05:04 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
16:05:06 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
16:05:08 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
16:05:11 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
16:05:14 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
16:05:16 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
16:05:20 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
16:05:21 <BillBug> sorry - typo - "...rich data repositories with thorough metadata..."
16:05:22 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
16:05:26 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2007/06/21 20:04:35 $
16:05:32 <ericP> Zakim, who is here?
16:05:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Don_Doherty, Vipul_Kashyap, Kei_Cheung, Jonathan_Rees, Olivier_Bodenreider, EricP, Tanya_Hongsermeier, Helen_Chen, BillBug
16:05:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see BillBug, helen, vipul, matthiassamwald, Tonya, RRSAgent, Zakim, Don, jar286, ericP
16:05:58 <Zakim> -BillBug
16:06:01 <Zakim> -Olivier_Bodenreider
16:06:03 <Zakim> -Helen_Chen
16:06:05 <Zakim> -Kei_Cheung
16:06:11 <Zakim> -EricP
16:06:13 <Zakim> -Don_Doherty
16:06:25 <Zakim> -Jonathan_Rees
16:06:31 <Zakim> -Tanya_Hongsermeier
16:11:26 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Vipul_Kashyap, in SW_HCLS()11:00AM
16:11:29 <Zakim> SW_HCLS()11:00AM has ended
16:11:30 <Zakim> Attendees were Don_Doherty, Vipul_Kashyap, Kei_Cheung, Jonathan_Rees, EricP, Olivier_Bodenreider, Tanya_Hongsermeier, Eric_Neumann, Helen_Chen, Helen, BillBug, Alan
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