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12:30:15 <shadi> zakim, this will be tsd
12:30:15 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start now
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12:31:07 <shadi> zakim, code?
12:31:07 <Zakim> the conference code is 8783 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), shadi
12:31:28 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
12:31:37 <Zakim> +Cooper
12:32:13 <Zakim> +Shadi
12:32:17 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
12:32:34 <shadi> meeting: TSD TF
12:32:53 <shadi> zakim, who is making noise?
12:33:04 <shadi> chair: CarlosV, Christophe
12:33:09 <shadi> scribe: Shadi
12:33:11 <Zakim> shadi, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Christophe_Strobbe (68%), Shadi (5%)
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12:33:44 <shadi> regrets: Tim
12:33:52 <Zakim> +Vangelis_Karkaletsis
12:34:06 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Jun/0007.html
12:34:23 <shadi> agenda+ XPath 2.0 in TCDL 2.0
12:34:33 <shadi> agenda+ Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft
12:34:46 <shadi> agenda+ Web form interface for submitting test samples
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12:35:51 <Zakim> +??P4
12:36:25 <Christophe> zakim, P4 is CarlosIglesias
12:36:25 <Zakim> sorry, Christophe, I do not recognize a party named 'P4'
12:36:31 <Christophe> zakim, ??P4 is CarlosIglesias
12:36:31 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
12:36:41 <Zakim> +Reinhard
12:37:27 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
12:37:27 <Zakim> agendum 1. "XPath 2.0 in TCDL 2.0" taken up [from shadi]
12:38:11 <shadi> CS: advise to jump to XPath 2.0 in TCDL 2.0, more powerfull than the current XPath 1.0
12:38:34 <shadi> ...no compatibility issues that will impact the subset we are using
12:39:47 <shadi> CI: we wanted to use EARL pointers, will this be incompatible? i don't see conflicts.
12:40:08 <shadi> ...we can add XPath 2.0 as another type of pointers in the EARL pointers draft
12:40:18 <shadi> ...once we do this, I don't see a problem
12:40:46 <shadi> CS: does the current EARL draft refer to specific XPath version?
12:41:01 <shadi> CI: don't think so, we just talked about XPath so far
12:41:09 <shadi> ...may need to include version numbers
12:41:39 <shadi> CS: we don't have a dependency on EARL pointers anyway
12:43:46 <shadi> SAZ: concur with CI, but just a question to clarify
12:44:39 <shadi> ...we are not losing anything when we jump from XPath 1.0 -> XPath 2.0 (in the metadata subset of TCDL 2.0)
12:45:04 <shadi> ...but do we win anything? is there something that we can do now that we couldN't do before?
12:46:13 <shadi> ...do we even need to specify the version of XPath if they are that compatible?
12:46:41 <shadi> CS: if we want to use more complex querries then we have to use XPath 2.0
12:47:06 <shadi> ...for example built-in datatypes or regular expressions
12:48:23 <shadi> SAZ: so it is sufficient that the EARL pointer vocabulary identifies the version number?
12:48:30 <shadi> CS: yes, I think so
12:49:23 <shadi> ...we can find a convention for the time being until the EARL pointer vocabulary is updated
12:49:50 <shadi> SAZ: yes, we can use XPath 2.0 for now, and update the EArL pointers at the same time
12:49:59 <shadi> CS: any objections to this?
12:53:47 <shadi> action: CI include the issue on XPath versions in the EARL pointers planning work
12:54:35 <shadi> RESOLUTION: for now, XPath 2.0 is the default format for any XPath expressions in the metadata
12:56:00 <shadi> action: CS add a clarification note in the metadata on the (temporary) XPath 2.0 convention
12:56:27 <shadi> zakim, take up next
12:56:27 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Updating test samples to new WCAG 2.0 working draft" taken up [from shadi]
12:56:57 <Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Jun/0001.html
12:57:12 <shadi> CS: we talked about that last time, had an action item to check the impact of this change
12:58:38 <shadi> ...sent a mail, some need changes
12:58:44 <shadi> ...who volunteers?
12:58:52 <shadi> MC: i should do some
12:58:55 <shadi> RR: me too
13:02:49 <shadi> action: MC and RR choose 3 test samples and check if they need to be updated to the new WCAG 2.0 WD (send a mail to list to avoid duplicate work)
13:02:54 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:02:54 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Web form interface for submitting test samples" taken up [from shadi]
13:03:36 <shadi> EV: no news right now, look for someone to work on the interface
13:04:20 <Christophe> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Jun/0003.html
13:05:26 <shadi> SAZ: MWI are working on a new interface, we are coordinating internally
13:05:38 <shadi> ...hopefully we can adopt some of this work from them
13:06:20 <shadi> agenda+ Action Item review
13:06:26 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:06:26 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Action Item review" taken up [from shadi]
13:06:49 <shadi> CS: SAZ you have an action item open
13:07:03 <shadi> ...also you wanted to move some of the usage docs to the CVS repository
13:07:32 <shadi> SAZ: sorry, didn't get to it. will try this week
13:07:54 <shadi> action: SAZ update the review process document
13:08:15 <shadi> action: SAZ move review process document to the CVS repository
13:09:00 <shadi> agenda+ Structure Review script
13:09:05 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:09:05 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Structure Review script" taken up [from shadi]
13:09:15 <shadi> CS: working on a structure review script
13:09:26 <shadi> ...have some code but still finalizing it
13:09:31 <shadi> ...will announce it soon
13:09:41 <Christophe> Schematron
13:10:23 <shadi> SAZ: what technology?
13:10:42 <shadi> CS: schematron, running XSLT 1.0 or XSLT 2.0
13:10:54 <Christophe> see also http://www.schematron.com/
13:11:18 <Zakim> -Vangelis_Karkaletsis
13:11:21 <Zakim> -Reinhard
13:11:22 <Zakim> -Cooper
13:11:24 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:11:25 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:11:34 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
13:11:35 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:11:36 <Zakim> Attendees were Cooper, Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, Vangelis_Karkaletsis, CarlosIglesias, Reinhard
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13:12:02 <shadi>                                                                 zakim, bye
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13:12:12 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:12:16 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
13:12:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-minutes.html shadi
13:12:18 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
13:12:23 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-actions.rdf :
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CI include the issue on XPath versions in the EARL pointers planning work [1]
13:12:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-irc#T12-53-47
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CS add a clarification note in the metadata on the (temporary) XPath 2.0 convention [2]
13:12:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-irc#T12-56-00
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: MC and RR choose 3 test samples and check if they need to be updated to the new WCAG 2.0 WD (send a mail to list to avoid duplicate work) [3]
13:12:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-irc#T13-02-49
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ update the review process document [4]
13:12:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-irc#T13-07-54
13:12:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ move review process document to the CVS repository [5]
13:12:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/19-tsdtf-irc#T13-08-15