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19:54:44 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
19:54:51 <MichaelC> meeting: WAI WCAG
19:55:02 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2007AprJun/0182.html
19:56:24 <MichaelC> regrets: Roberto_Ellero
19:57:04 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()3:00PM has now started
19:57:10 <Zakim> + +1.240.855.aaaa
19:57:52 <Zakim> +??P1
19:57:59 <rscano> zakim, ??P1 is Roberto_Scano
19:57:59 <Zakim> +Roberto_Scano; got it
19:58:14 <rscano> zakim, I am Roberto_Scano
19:58:14 <Zakim> ok, rscano, I now associate you with Roberto_Scano
19:58:36 <Makoto> Makoto has joined #wai-wcag
19:58:58 <Zakim> +Cooper
19:59:25 <MichaelC> zakim, +1.240 is Bruce_Bailey
19:59:25 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey; got it
19:59:48 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:00:03 <Zakim> +Andrew_LaHart
20:00:06 <Zakim> +??P7
20:00:15 <Ben> zakim, ??P7 is Gregg_and_Ben
20:00:15 <Zakim> +Gregg_and_Ben; got it
20:01:13 <Christophe> Christophe has joined #wai-wcag
20:01:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:29 <Makoto> zakim, [IPcaller] is Makoto_Ueki
20:01:29 <Zakim> +Makoto_Ueki; got it
20:01:50 <MichaelC> chair: Gregg_Vanderheiden
20:01:57 <Drew> Drew has joined #wai-wcag
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20:02:12 <Zakim> -Andrew_LaHart
20:02:14 <David> David has joined #wai-wcag
20:02:32 <rscano> zakim, who is here?
20:02:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Gregg_and_Ben, Makoto_Ueki
20:02:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see David, Gregg, Drew, Christophe, Makoto, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ben, rscano, MichaelC
20:02:43 <Zakim> +Don_Evans
20:02:58 <Zakim> +Andrew_LaHart
20:03:10 <Zakim> +Alex_Li
20:03:20 <rscano> zakim, who is making noise?
20:03:22 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
20:03:31 <Zakim> rscano, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bruce_Bailey (8%), David_MacDonald (32%), Don_Evans (0%), Gregg_and_Ben (41%), Makoto_Ueki (3%), Alex_Li (12%)
20:03:47 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
20:03:49 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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20:04:06 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Cynthia_Shelly
20:04:06 <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly; got it
20:05:21 <MichaelC> scribe: Drew
20:05:25 <MichaelC> zakim, take up first item
20:05:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up first item', MichaelC
20:05:32 <MichaelC> zakim, take up item 1
20:05:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Announcements, Questions, and Updates" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:05:38 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -scribeOnly
20:06:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:06:59 <bengt> zakim, [IPcaller is Bengt_Farre
20:06:59 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:07:40 <Zakim> + +7.971.aabb
20:10:55 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
20:10:55 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Miscellaneous proposals for 14 June 2007 <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20070614-misc/results>" taken up [from MichaelC]
20:11:26 <Drew> topic: CAPTCHA
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20:13:11 <Zakim> +Sofia_Celic
20:14:07 <MichaelC> q+
20:15:24 <MichaelC> ack me
20:16:02 <David> q+
20:16:18 <Gregg> ack c
20:17:40 <MichaelC> q?
20:17:52 <Gregg> ack d
20:26:17 <Drew> Action: Michael and Cynthia to rework CAPTCHA (Issue 0142)
20:26:52 <Ben> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:26:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Gregg_and_Ben, Makoto_Ueki, Don_Evans, Andrew_LaHart, Alex_Li, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly,
20:26:56 <Zakim> ... Christophe_Strobbe, Bengt_Farre, Sean_Hayes, Sofia_Celic
20:26:59 <Drew> topic: Programmatically Determined Link Context
20:32:11 <Drew> Resolution: Accept proposal minus last sentence with or changed to of. 
20:33:32 <Drew> topic: SC 3.3.3, SC 3.3.6: Error Prevention shouldn't be limited to forms
20:35:56 <Gregg> ack a
20:37:38 <Gregg> ack c
20:38:55 <Gregg> ack a
20:45:56 <Gregg> ack a
20:48:31 <Drew> Action: Alex discuss forms in understanding sc 3.3.3 and 3.3.6
20:49:50 <Drew> Resolution: Accept commentor comment 0151 and 0152 
20:50:10 <Zakim> -Don_Evans
20:50:36 <Drew> s/0152/0152 which would change forms to web pages
20:52:14 <Drew> topic: Web site too complicated
20:53:56 <Gregg> ack a
20:55:02 <Drew> Action: David to send an inquiry as to page in question and suggestions for improvement, as well as Quick reference link 
20:55:38 <Drew> topic: CSS Suggestions for QuickRef
20:57:51 <Drew> Resolution: Accept response as revised by Gregg
20:59:30 <Drew> topic: Require publicly documented semantics of language
21:00:05 <bengt> zakim, who is making noise ?
21:00:18 <Zakim> bengt, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Gregg_and_Ben (63%), Makoto_Ueki (62%), Alex_Li (29%)
21:00:59 <Drew> Resolution: Accept Response as amended
21:01:25 <Drew> topic: LC-469: Resizing with no horizontal scrolling
21:01:54 <Zakim> -Roberto_Scano
21:02:12 <rscano> rscano has left #wai-wcag
21:03:47 <Sofia> q+
21:03:54 <Gregg> ack s
21:05:08 <Makoto> zakim, mute me
21:05:08 <Zakim> Makoto_Ueki should now be muted
21:06:57 <Drew> Resolution: Accepted as amended 
21:07:26 <Drew> topic: LC-535, LC-536: Audio descriptions and full text alternatives
21:10:04 <Drew> Resolution: Accept response as amended
21:10:19 <Drew> topic: [UND WCAG2] i18n comment: Content in two languages (LC-1376)
21:10:33 <Drew> Resolution: Accept as proposed
21:10:42 <Drew> topic: minimum text size
21:19:06 <Drew> Resolution: Accept response as amended
21:19:29 <Drew> s/amended/amended 0138
21:20:10 <Drew> topic: 3-tiered priority levels
21:20:10 <Drew> Refer to comment May0167 
21:20:59 <Drew> s/Refer to comment May0167/Accept response to 0167
21:21:32 <Drew> topic: Link text conformance level
21:21:53 <Drew> resolution: Accept response to 0063 as proposed
21:22:04 <Drew> topic: Require W3C technologies
21:22:16 <Drew> Resolution: Accept response to 0067 as proposed
21:22:29 <Drew> topic:  Comments related to accessibility supported (LC-1302 and LC-1307)
21:22:46 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
21:29:15 <Gregg> ack c
21:29:35 <Zakim> -Sofia_Celic
21:33:45 <Drew> Resolution: Accept proposed response to 0084 and 0085 as amended
21:33:58 <Drew> topic: Responses to LC-537 and LC-538
21:35:32 <Drew> Resolution: Accept reponse to lc-537 and lc-538 as proposed
21:36:23 <Drew> topic: The WCAG2 guidelines appear to be complex and the quick reference document follows in the same vein
21:37:15 <Drew> Action: Gregg to combine 0169 with 0173
21:37:31 <Drew> s/Gregg/Sofia and Gregg
21:37:48 <Drew> topic: Contrast and Color
21:45:59 <David> q+
21:47:00 <Gregg> ack c
21:47:02 <Gregg> ack dd
21:47:05 <Gregg> ack d
21:49:37 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
21:50:29 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
21:58:42 <Drew> Action: Everyone - think about 5 to 1 contrast at Level A
22:01:54 <Zakim> -Alex_Li
22:01:56 <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
22:01:58 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
22:02:00 <Zakim> -Sean_Hayes
22:02:02 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
22:02:03 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
22:02:05 <Zakim> -Makoto_Ueki
22:02:09 <Zakim> -Gregg_and_Ben
22:02:30 <Makoto> Makoto has left #wai-wcag
22:02:32 <Zakim> -Andrew_LaHart
22:03:13 <MichaelC> zakim, bye
22:03:13 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.240.855.aaaa, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, Bruce_Bailey, David_MacDonald, Andrew_LaHart, Gregg_and_Ben, Makoto_Ueki, Don_Evans, Alex_Li,
22:03:13 <Zakim> Zakim has left #wai-wcag
22:03:16 <Zakim> ... Tim_Boland, Christophe_Strobbe, Cynthia_Shelly, [IPcaller], Bengt_Farre, +7.971.aabb, Sean_Hayes, Sofia_Celic
22:04:09 <Ben> Present: Bruce_Bailey, Roberto_Scano, Cooper, David_MacDonald, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Ben_Caldwell, Makoto_Ueki, Don_Evans, Andrew_LaHart, Alex_Li, Tim_Boland, Cynthia_Shelly, Christophe_Strobbe, Bengt_Farre, Sean_Hayes, Sofia_Celic
22:04:15 <Ben> RRSAgent, pointer?
22:04:15 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T22-04-15
22:04:38 <Ben> RRSAgent, bye
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael and Cynthia to rework CAPTCHA (Issue 0142) [1]
22:04:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T20-26-17
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Alex discuss forms in understanding sc 3.3.3 and 3.3.6 [2]
22:04:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T20-48-31
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: David to send an inquiry as to page in question and suggestions for improvement, as well as Quick reference link  [3]
22:04:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T20-55-02
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gregg to combine 0169 with 0173 [4]
22:04:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T21-37-15
22:04:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everyone - think about 5 to 1 contrast at Level A [5]
22:04:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-wai-wcag-irc#T21-58-42