IRC log of forms on 2007-06-14
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- 13:05:40 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make log public
- 13:17:32 [John_Boyer]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Mar/0013.html
- 13:32:50 [klotz]
- ACTION: Leigh Klotz to file last-call comment on id function and xsi:type
- 13:32:57 [klotz]
- ACTION: John Boyer to manually remove empty bullet point in model-using-atomic before CR.
- 13:51:28 [Steven]
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- 13:57:22 [klotz]
- RESOLVED: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=135 On point 1, we made the change to section 6.2.1. So on point 2 we decided it was already in agreement; on point 3, the same instance data outside of an XForms processor might have xsi:schemaLocation processing on, but it is indeed off in XForms.
- 13:57:49 [Nick]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-1/#schemaLocationHints
- 13:59:26 [Nick]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-1/#xsi_schemaLocation
- 14:21:26 [John_Boyer]
- 28<21phrase20 diff28="add28">If neither attribute is specified, then the value of this property is the empty string.28</21phrase28>
- 14:21:37 [John_Boyer]
- 28In 4.4.5 xforms-insert and 4.4.6 xforms-delete
- 14:23:11 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: On http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=108 We accept Erik Bruchez's request to clarify that the empty is tring is returned by insert event binding if none is specified. We also ask for clarification on the feature and its use case, because in general, it is not possible for the form author to resolve the value without knowing the context and without knowing whether the binding is a bind IDREF or an XPath expression.
- 14:45:54 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0000.html
- 15:11:34 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Action?id=105 we change 6a and 6b to say that the insert location is the attribute list of the insert location node's parent element.
- 15:59:36 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Events?id=96 we change to error-information with hyphen.
- 16:16:52 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0001.html
- 16:16:57 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun14.html
- 16:17:48 [Charlie]
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- 16:21:22 [John_Boyer]
- 28http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0002.html
- 16:24:13 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/XPath?id=107 XPath 2.0 features, though valuable, are not in scope of the XForms 1.1 requirements, so we accept this as for XForms 1.2 future features.
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- 17:39:13 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun14.html
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- 18:24:10 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun14.html
- 18:27:22 [Steven]
- ACTION: John to delete the first "Description" in 8.1.5
- 18:29:06 [Steven]
- ACTION 3=John to delete first "Description" in 8.1.5, issue controls/30
- 18:29:16 [Steven]
- rrsagent, pointer?
- 18:29:16 [RRSAgent]
- See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-29-16
- 18:31:02 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.12 'stop processing' by 'processing halts', issue XPath/34
- 18:32:38 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/06/13-forms-minutes.html have been created
- 18:34:25 [wellsk]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-forms-editor/2007Apr/0044.html
- 18:35:21 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun13.html with updated link to IRC minutes; still has Nick's name wrong.
- 18:36:23 [klotz]
- my ($firstname, $lastname) = split /[ ,]/;
- 18:38:47 [klotz]
- ACTION: John Boyer to fix formatting to relevant and validate attributes to submission.
- 18:41:19 [Steven]
- ACTION: John to delete extra double quite at end of example in http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#action-delete (PR actions/75)
- 18:44:57 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.5.3 UI Binding Expressions 'Dynamic dependences' by 'Dynamic dependencies', issue XPath/39
- 18:47:17 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun13.html
- 18:47:19 [klotz]
- http://xformstest.org/2007jun14.html
- 18:47:56 [Steven]
- s/quite/quote/
- 18:52:26 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.6 The XForms Function Library 'xforms-binding exception' by 'xforms-binding-exception' missing '-', issue XPath/40
- 19:01:11 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/Talks/05-15-steven-xforms11/
- 19:01:17 [Steven]
- My talk at xtech
- 19:06:13 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to change in section 10.14 Conditional Execution of XForms Actions second triger tag has wrong closing tag (</input> instead of </trigger>), issue Actions/31
- 19:06:44 [Steven]
- http://www.w3.org/2007/Talks/05-15-steven-xforms11/#xforms11
- 19:09:22 [Steven]
- www.ebaymobile.co.uk
- 19:10:02 [klotz]
- uses xforms?
- 19:10:15 [John_Boyer]
- http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Forms/specs/XForms1.1/index-diff.html#structure-model
- 19:10:17 [Steven]
- Yes
- 19:10:32 [Steven]
- Not yet a 100% implementation, but I am assured it is essentially XForms
- 19:10:40 [Steven]
- (and XHTML2)
- 19:10:51 [Charlie]
- is this described anywhere?
- 19:11:03 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to fix 8 typos reported by Gary F Stevens, issue Misc/35
- 19:25:54 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to change in section '11.6 The resource Element and Attribute' change 'first child,' to 'first child element,' (second occurance of first child in this section), issue Submission/54
- 19:39:49 [markbirbeck]
- brb
- 19:39:59 [klotz]
- ???
- 19:40:04 [klotz]
- aha
- 20:00:36 [klotz]
- ACTION: Mark Birbeck to update schema and text for listItem and listItems to support empty content; we suspect that listItems will have to be a union with empty string.
- 20:09:01 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Model?id=104 , we change section 3.3.1 to default model version to empty, and define empty to mean that the processor gets to choose the version. If no version chosen is available, the xforms-version-exception is dispatched to the default model. The declaration on the default model is used to make the choice. Later models may offer declarations of model version but xforms-version-exception is a
- 20:09:01 [klotz]
- gain dispatched to the default model if their declarations are incompatible with the version chosen.
- 20:11:14 [klotz]
- s/is a/is
- 20:11:18 [klotz]
- s/gain dispatched/dispatched
- 20:13:58 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=22, and http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=138 they all accept empty; we are fixing the confusing text.
- 20:14:31 [John_Boyer]
- Although in some cases the XML schema datatypes already allowed empty string,
- 20:21:04 [klotz]
- All the XML schema simple types listed below have been added to the
- 20:21:04 [klotz]
- XForms namespace. This definition allows the use of the type names
- 20:21:04 [klotz]
- unprefixed when the XForms namespace is the default namespace. Those
- 20:21:04 [klotz]
- datatypes that do not allow empty string content have been defined as
- 20:21:04 [klotz]
- unions of empty string with the corresponding XML Schema type.
- 20:23:09 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to remove 'in' after 'within' in section '11.2 The xforms-submit Event' (action processing is blocked within in the
- 20:23:10 [Nick]
- default processing), issue Submission/79
- 20:28:10 [Nick]
- ACTION: John to update the overview table in '4.1 Events Overview' (move xforms-rebuild after xforms-recalculate, move xforms-submit-error to Error indications section, add xforms-output-error), issue Events/57
- 20:40:58 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=136 , we remove the asterisks and the table of xsd types and replace it with mention of XSD types, no indication of what XForms 1.0 Basic Profile might or might not do, and a table of xforms-namespace datatypes.
- 21:28:14 [klotz]
- ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to look up lexical and value space for http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 and http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 and confirm lexical/value space and provide the email screenshot for 8.1.2 input control and spec text for the conversion for international email addresses.
- 21:36:47 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
- 21:40:21 [Nick]
- [^@]@[^@]
- 21:40:31 [Nick]
- ([^@]+@[^@]+)?
- 21:42:26 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, bye
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-actions.rdf :
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Leigh Klotz to file last-call comment on id function and xsi:type [1]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T13-32-50
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John Boyer to manually remove empty bullet point in model-using-atomic before CR. [2]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T13-32-57
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to delete first "Description" in 8.1.5, issue controls/30 [3]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-27-22
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.12 'stop processing' by 'processing halts', issue XPath/34 [4]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-31-02
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John Boyer to fix formatting to relevant and validate attributes to submission. [5]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-38-47
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to delete extra double quite at end of example in http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms11/#action-delete (PR actions/75) [6]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-41-19
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.5.3 UI Binding Expressions 'Dynamic dependences' by 'Dynamic dependencies', issue XPath/39 [7]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-44-57
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to change in section 7.6 The XForms Function Library 'xforms-binding exception' by 'xforms-binding-exception' missing '-', issue XPath/40 [8]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T18-52-26
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to change in section 10.14 Conditional Execution of XForms Actions second triger tag has wrong closing tag (</input> instead of </trigger>), issue Actions/31 [9]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T19-06-13
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to fix 8 typos reported by Gary F Stevens, issue Misc/35 [10]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T19-11-03
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to change in section '11.6 The resource Element and Attribute' change 'first child,' to 'first child element,' (second occurance of first child in this section), issue Submission/54 [11]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T19-25-54
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Mark Birbeck to update schema and text for listItem and listItems to support empty content; we suspect that listItems will have to be a union with empty string. [12]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T20-00-36
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to remove 'in' after 'within' in section '11.2 The xforms-submit Event' (action processing is blocked within in the [13]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T20-23-09
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: John to update the overview table in '4.1 Events Overview' (move xforms-rebuild after xforms-recalculate, move xforms-submit-error to Error indications section, add xforms-output-error), issue Events/57 [14]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T20-28-10
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to look up lexical and value space for http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 and http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 and confirm lexical/value space and provide the email screenshot for 8.1.2 input control and spec text for the conversion for international email addresses. [15]
- 21:42:26 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T21-28-14
- 21:42:54 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 we respond that we accept and will be clearer, but there is something in section 6 already.
- 21:43:03 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 we respond that we would like to a regular expression that matches email addresses including international ones (both left and right of @).
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- 21:45:11 [klotz]
- ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to look up lexical and value space for http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 and http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 and confirm lexical/value space and provide the email screenshot for 8.1.2 input control and spec text for the conversion for international email addresses.
- 21:45:14 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 we respond that we would like to a regular expression that matches email addresses including international ones (both left and right of @).
- 21:45:17 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 we respond that we would like to a regular expression that matches email addresses including international ones (both left and right of @).
- 21:45:22 [klotz]
- RESOLUTION: For http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 we respond that we accept and will be clearer, but there is something in section 6 already.
- 21:45:31 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, make log public
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-minutes.html John_Boyer
- 21:45:43 [John_Boyer]
- rrsagent, bye
- 21:45:43 [RRSAgent]
- I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-actions.rdf :
- 21:45:43 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: Charlie Wiecha to look up lexical and value space for http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=6 and http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xforms-issues/Types?id=10 and confirm lexical/value space and provide the email screenshot for 8.1.2 input control and spec text for the conversion for international email addresses. [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/14-forms-irc#T21-45-11
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