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14:30:00 <LeeF> zakim, this will be dawg
14:30:01 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start now
14:30:06 <LeeF> Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
14:30:08 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:30:10 <LeeF> Regrets: EliasT
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14:30:39 <LeeF> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0069.html
14:30:54 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: RDF Data Access - 12 Jun Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0069.html
14:31:01 <LeeF> agenda + convene
14:31:04 <LeeF> agenda + action items
14:31:10 <LeeF> agenda + pub status
14:31:13 <LeeF> agenda + implementation report
14:31:15 <LeeF> agenda + testing
14:31:48 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started
14:31:55 <Zakim> +??P1
14:31:57 <AndyS> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:31:57 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:31:59 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:32:02 <Zakim> -AndyS
14:32:03 <Zakim> +AndyS
14:32:14 <LeeF> zakim, IBMCambridge is me
14:32:14 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
14:32:38 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
14:33:15 <LeeF> ericP, you planning to join us?
14:33:30 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP
14:33:30 <Zakim> I am sorry, ericP; I do not know a number for ericP
14:33:35 <ericP> Zakim, please dial ericP-office
14:33:35 <Zakim> ok, ericP; the call is being made
14:33:37 <Zakim> +EricP
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14:35:27 <LeeF> Regrets +Souri
14:36:46 <jeen> jeen has joined #dawg
14:36:54 <AndyS> Hi Jeen!
14:36:59 <jeen> hi all
14:37:01 <LeeF> topic: convene
14:37:10 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/att-0068/2007-06-05-dawg-minutes.html minutes from 5 June
14:37:18 <Zakim> +??P4
14:37:22 <jeen> zakim, ??P4 is me
14:37:22 <Zakim> +jeen; got it
14:37:37 <jeen> hey Andy
14:39:02 <LeeF> next meeting 19 June, same time, same place
14:39:13 <LeeF> topic: action items
14:40:23 <jeen> zakim, mute me
14:40:23 <Zakim> jeen should now be muted
14:40:40 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/mid/20070612144005.GA6160@w3.org
14:42:58 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP &  chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit  into the XPath-based facet approach [DONE]
14:43:08 <LeeF> action -1
14:43:14 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP &  chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit  into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES]
14:43:30 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to walk through one full example of representing an algebraic expression using the XPath-based facet stuff [DONE]
14:44:14 <LeeF> ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [DONE]
14:44:21 <LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES]
14:44:30 <LeeF> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES]
14:44:45 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES]
14:44:57 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES]
14:45:05 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to  generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES]
14:45:15 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible  results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES]
14:45:20 <LeeF> topic: publication status
14:46:01 <jeen> :)
14:46:39 <ericP> jeen, that was my fault.. very sorry
14:47:00 <jeen> no prob
14:47:02 <LeeF> Got an "ok" from the Director, expect publication on Thursday (14-Jun)
14:47:14 <LeeF> topic: implementation report
14:47:34 <jeen> zakim, unmute me
14:47:34 <Zakim> jeen should no longer be muted
14:48:00 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0071.html EricP running through algebra + yacker + XSLT example 
14:48:15 <jeen> zakim, mute me
14:48:15 <Zakim> jeen should now be muted
14:49:50 <LeeF> summary of implementation report status -
14:50:05 <LeeF> list of facets w/ detection XPath (from EricP's list and Chimezie's list)
14:50:11 <LeeF> classify growing test suite in data-r2
14:50:22 <LeeF> classify test results to find interoperating feature implementations
14:50:54 <LeeF> topic: test suite
14:51:19 <jeen> zakim unmute me
14:51:26 <jeen> zakim, unmute me
14:51:26 <Zakim> jeen should no longer be muted
14:52:17 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0070.html AndyS on test status
14:52:28 <LeeF> first group: data-r2/optional-filter
14:52:50 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/optional-filter/manifest.ttl optional-filter manifest
14:54:42 <LeeF> PROPOSED: approve all 3 tests in data-r2/optional-filter/manifest.ttl 
14:55:00 <LeeF> AndyS seconds
14:55:05 <LeeF> resolved
14:55:15 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark optional-filter tests approved
14:56:02 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/manifest.n3 boolean effective value tests
14:57:23 <jeen> zakim, mute me
14:57:23 <Zakim> jeen should now be muted
15:00:08 <ericP> [[
15:00:10 <ericP> PREFIX mf: <$NS_dawgManifest>
15:00:10 <ericP> PREFIX rdfs: <$NS_rdfs>
15:00:10 <ericP> SELECT ?name ?comment ?result ?type
15:00:10 <ericP>  WHERE { ?m mf:entries MEMBERS(?entry) .
15:00:12 <ericP>          ?entry mf:name    ?name .
15:00:15 <ericP>          OPTIONAL { ?entry a ?type } .
15:00:17 <ericP>          OPTIONAL { ?entry rdfs:comment ?comment } .
15:00:20 <ericP>          OPTIONAL { ?entry mf:result  ?result } }
15:00:22 <ericP> ]]
15:01:40 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq
15:02:46 <AndyS> In CVS I see, FILTER ( ! ?w )
15:03:56 <AndyS> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/rq23/rq25.html#ebv
15:03:56 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#ebv
15:04:43 <jeen> Zakim, unmute me
15:04:47 <Zakim> jeen should no longer be muted
15:06:04 <jeen> somewhat belated datapoint but: sesame passes the optional-filter tests
15:06:57 <ericP> [[
15:06:58 <ericP> kicking mirrors to have version dated 200506150903.07 of http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq
15:07:01 <ericP> Reflect, repent, count backwards from 5 then hit browser back button and reload ,mirrorstatus.
15:07:04 <ericP> You just might be rewarded
15:07:07 <ericP> Contact sysreq if problems persist
15:07:09 <ericP> ]]
15:07:17 <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/Expr2/query-bev-6.rq worky now
15:08:19 <chimezie> btw RDFLib passes the optional tests as well
15:08:27 <ericP> tx chimezie 
15:09:34 <AndyS> Excellent.
15:11:25 <AndyS> :ext:aseaborne@cvs.w3.org:/w3ccvs -> WWW/2001/sw/DataAccess 
15:15:02 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl
15:16:19 <AndyS> Pass 6/6 of moved tests
15:16:22 <LeeF> PROPOSED: approve the 6 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl
15:16:34 <LeeF> andyS seconds
15:16:42 <LeeF> resolved
15:17:26 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl approved, and add rdfs:comments
15:17:48 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/OpenWorld/
15:18:20 <jeen> sesame passes all but two of the boolean-effective-value tests. I get nullpointerexceptions so the problem is ours not dawgs
15:19:41 <jeen> this is gonna sound stupid but: how do I check out new subdirectories from w3c cvs? 'cvs update' does not seem to give me the newly checked in stuff...
15:19:56 <LeeF> cvs update -d maybe?
15:20:18 <jeen> I luv you; thanks that did it
15:20:32 <AndyS> Add "update -dP" ~/.cvsrc
15:20:38 <LeeF> :-)
15:20:44 <AndyS> Then it always happens.
15:21:24 <AndyS> (1) s/ORDER BY .*// (2) Remve attributes in srx files
15:21:43 <AndyS> s/Remve/Remove/
15:22:09 <chimezie> hg/mercurial doesn't help either =)
15:27:51 <jeen> ok I'll just type it :)
15:27:57 <jeen> zakim, mute me
15:27:57 <Zakim> jeen should now be muted
15:28:25 <jeen> minor request: if you add a new subdir of tests to data-r2, please also update the super manifest (manifest-evaluation.ttl)
15:28:38 <jeen> (i've already added the subdirs we just approved)
15:28:41 <AndyS> Ack
15:30:07 <jeen> no prob; I'm probably the only who actually uses that file in his test framework :)
15:30:09 <AndyS> ARQ passs 18/18 after all updated
15:30:25 <LeeF> EricP passes them too
15:31:25 <jeen> I have to jump some hoops to run tests in  data/ 
15:31:41 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve the 18 tests in http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data/OpenWorld/
15:31:49 <LeeF> EricP seconds
15:31:57 <LeeF> resolved
15:32:11 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to move OpenWorld tests to data-r2, add comments, mark as approved, add to super manifest
15:32:33 <LeeF> adjourned
15:32:34 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
15:32:45 <Zakim> -AndyS
15:32:50 <Zakim> -jeen
15:32:59 <LeeF> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:32:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-minutes.html LeeF
15:33:07 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world access
15:33:07 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make logs world access', LeeF.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:33:15 <LeeF> RRSAgent, makes logs world-access
15:33:15 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'makes logs world-access', LeeF.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:33:23 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs world-access
15:47:07 <ericP> [[
15:47:09 <ericP> The SPARQL graph matching algorithm requires no inference and
15:47:09 <ericP> corresponds to Graph Equivalence and Literal Equality from the RDF
15:47:09 <ericP> Concepts document. However, this graph may be the product of inference
15:47:09 <ericP> or normalization. XPath value comparisons expressed in the FILTER
15:47:12 <ericP> constraints provide the expressivity the commentor requested.
15:47:14 <ericP> ]]
16:10:20 <Zakim> -EricP
16:10:22 <Zakim> -LeeF
16:10:24 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended
16:10:25 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, LeeF, Chimezie_Ogbuji, EricP, jeen
16:10:36 <LeeF> rrsagent, bye
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-actions.rdf :
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP &  chimezie to see if all the identified algebraic forms fit  into the XPath-based facet approach [CONTINUES] [2]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-43-14
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to walk through one full example of representing an algebraic expression using the XPath-based facet stuff [DONE] [3]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-43-30
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: AndyS+EricP: Run through an example in yacker [DONE] [4]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-44-14
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests to summarize coverage [CONTINUES] [5]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-44-21
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EliasT to come up with feature list for protocol testing [CONTINUES] [6]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-44-30
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to poke IETF folks about registering SPARQL media types (esp. application/sparql-query) [CONTINUES] [7]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-44-45
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to write a test showing that langMatches doens't do extended matching [CONTINUES] [8]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-44-57
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to  generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES] [9]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-45-05
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible  results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES] [10]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-45-15
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to mark optional-filter tests approved [11]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T14-55-15
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to mark http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/boolean-effective-value/manifest.ttl approved, and add rdfs:comments [12]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T15-17-26
16:10:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: LeeF to move OpenWorld tests to data-r2, add comments, mark as approved, add to super manifest [13]
16:10:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-dawg-irc#T15-32-11
16:10:42 <LeeF> zakim, bye
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