IRC log of databinding on 2007-06-12

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be DBWG
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ok, trackbot; I see WS_DBWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
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Meeting: Databinding WG Teleconference
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Date: 12 June 2007
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scribe: pauld
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding/2007Jun/0001.html
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chair: pauld
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rrsagent, where am i?
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See http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-irc#T13-50-39
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html pauld
13:51:35 [pauld]
rrsagent, make logs public
13:52:35 [pauld]
zakim, code?
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the conference code is 3294 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), pauld
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Topic: Administrivia
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WS_DBWG()10:00AM has now started
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+ +0791888aaaa
13:58:44 [pauld]
zakim, aaaa is really me
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+pauld; got it
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+??P10
14:00:00 [pauld]
zakim, ??10
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I don't understand '??10', pauld
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zakim, ??P10 is gcowe
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+gcowe; got it
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+Yves
14:02:43 [pauld]
minutes from 29th approved
14:05:48 [pauld]
gcowe: put a new version of Axis2 run, working with a partner on a Websphere 6 report
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F2F planning, a meeting soon would be good to make progress
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1-3rd August, in Edinburgh
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Topic: Patterns at Risk
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xsd-databinding-comments/2007Apr/0000.html
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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/venn/venn.html
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yves: we could qualify this pattern with warnings
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yves: xs:date must be used in a timezone qualified way
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pauld: can we express that in a pattern
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pauld: ah, this is a runtime issue, so no
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pauld: seems like a basic advanced pattern
14:19:26 [pauld]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/basic.html
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pauld: looks at basic report
14:25:31 [Yves]
decimal/double also has issue (with roundings and big numbers as well)
14:27:19 [pauld]
pauld: castor is the only double, but yes Decimal seems advanced
14:29:06 [pauld]
attribute looks problematic with SOAP4R, reference
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.. in particular
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pauld: Boolean is failed by ADB
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gcowe: WSO2 may have fixed that
14:32:14 [pauld]
pauld: base64binary attribute looks advanced
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pauld: ENTITIESElement and attribute looks problematic
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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_mono_cs_1.1.13.8_osx.html#FloatElement02
14:34:56 [pauld]
looks like a rounding error
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pauld: loss of precison seems ok to me
14:36:42 [Yves]
267.43233E12 != 1.267432E+15
14:36:59 [Yves]
0.1278 = 12.78e-2
14:38:42 [pauld]
yves: you can use double for a better experience
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pauld: yeah, seems advanced on that basis
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pauld: GMonth, GYear, etc are all broken in ZSI
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yves: same issue as xs:date
14:40:35 [pauld]
ID/IDREF problems with our tests, but DTDs not used in SOAP
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yves: seem advanced
14:41:27 [pauld]
pauld: Integer seems Advanced
14:42:33 [pauld]
pauld: nice contentious pattern xs:nillable and xsi:nil is advanced!
14:43:19 [pauld]
pauld: finite lists seem problematic
14:43:28 [pauld]
gcowe: we use those!
14:45:39 [pauld]
pauld: SequenceElementList seems problematic!
14:45:55 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_axis_java_1.4.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:46:12 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_php5_php_5.2.0.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:46:27 [Yves]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/databinding/edcopy/report/report_soap4r_ruby_20051204.html#SequenceMaxOccursUnbounded01
14:47:17 [pauld]
pauld: cardinality on a sequence is problematic
14:47:44 [pauld]
yves: might be nice to have a table of patterns which we moved to advanced following testing
14:48:17 [pauld]
ACTION: pdowney to create a table of patterns moved to advanced following testing in Basic Patterns
14:48:17 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-122 - Create a table of patterns moved to advanced following testing in Basic Patterns [on Paul Downey - due 2007-06-19].
14:48:55 [pauld]
pauld: type substitution looks problematic
14:51:39 [pauld]
ACTION: gcowe to reply to Pete Cordell's comments
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Created ACTION-123 - Reply to Pete Cordell\'s comments [on George Cowe - due 2007-06-19].
14:52:44 [pauld]
gcowe: regrets for next call
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-pauld
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-gcowe
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WS_DBWG()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +0791888aaaa, pauld, gcowe, Yves
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exit
14:54:56 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintes', Yves. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html Yves
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rrsagent, generate minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/12-databinding-minutes.html pauldowney
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