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13:58:58 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS WG
13:59:00 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
13:59:02 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:59:06 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
13:59:32 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0045.html
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14:00:31 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started
14:00:38 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
14:01:27 <YvesS> zakim, who is there?
14:01:27 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, YvesS.
14:01:32 <YvesS> zakim, who is here?
14:01:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_Savourel
14:01:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jirka, fsasaki, chriLi, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS
14:01:48 <Zakim> + +420.4.824.0.aaaa
14:01:51 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
14:01:52 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
14:01:56 <Zakim> +Felix
14:02:27 <Jirka> zakim, +420 is Jirka
14:02:37 <Zakim> sorry, Jirka, I do not recognize a party named '+420'
14:02:59 <fsasaki> topic: action items
14:03:17 <fsasaki> action: Felix to check language data type in XML Schema (DONE)
14:03:19 <YvesS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0042.html
14:04:10 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0049.html
14:05:38 <fsasaki> Yves: done , we need to pick this up for BP 1
14:05:52 <fsasaki> action: Felix to contact JIS people in Japan about possiblity of "ITS as JIS" (DONE)
14:05:57 <fsasaki> Yves: Felix waiting for reply
14:06:56 <fsasaki> action: Felix to find IBM contact for ITS (DONE)
14:07:16 <fsasaki> Felix: not specific person found, will contact IBM AC rep
14:07:27 <fsasaki> action: Felix to contact IBM AC rep
14:07:49 <fsasaki> action: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing like "Example 7: Better design" (DONE)
14:07:59 <fsasaki> Yves: maybe the markup was wrong
14:08:10 <fsasaki> Felix: we should just use specref
14:08:26 <fsasaki> action: Felix to update status section for each new BP WD publicatation with 1) BP which need review and 2) BP which we think are finished. (ONGOING)
14:08:39 <fsasaki> action: Jirka to draft a mail for contacting editors vendors for ITS (PENDING)
14:09:29 <chriLi> Hi all, I already informed Yves I have just been called to a different meeting
14:09:56 <fsasaki> action: Felix to contact Najib and Felix about BP 2 (DROPPED)
14:10:09 <fsasaki> Yves: we do this like the way we did for the tagset doc
14:10:59 <fsasaki> .. Jirka mentioned that this has mabye a stylesheet issue
14:11:12 <fsasaki> Felix: Jirka wanted to change the stylesheet?
14:11:25 <fsasaki> Jirka: the xmlspec-i18n-its-techniques.xsl yes
14:11:39 <fsasaki> Felix: fine by me
14:11:52 <fsasaki> Jirka: try to generate HTML to see the differences
14:12:38 <fsasaki> action: Jirka to tweak XSLT about including examples
14:14:03 <fsasaki> action: Jirka to fix DocBook issues mentioned by Christian (DONE)
14:14:27 <fsasaki> action: Jirka to integrate the DocBook section into the BP document (DONE)
14:14:34 <Jirka> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#docbook
14:15:09 <fsasaki> Jirka: only some example code misssing
14:15:25 <fsasaki> Yves: looks good to me
14:15:27 <fsasaki> Felix: +!
14:15:39 <fsasaki> s/!/1/
14:16:20 <fsasaki> action: Yves to contact some ISO people about the "ITS as ISO standard" topic (DONE)
14:16:42 <fsasaki> Yves: not very useful feedback so far, only pointers to ISO process
14:17:32 <fsasaki> .. should we close ISO discussion for now?
14:17:44 <fsasaki> Felix: let's wait for feedback from Japan
14:17:54 <fsasaki> action: Everybody to look at SPARQL and the SPARQL result format for potential ITS review (DONE)
14:18:13 <fsasaki> Yves: updated the review page
14:18:23 <fsasaki> action: Everybody to look into XLIFF 1.2, TMX 2, SRX 2 (ONGONG)
14:18:35 <fsasaki> Yves: TMX done http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0046.html
14:18:58 <fsasaki> s/ONGONG/ONGOING/
14:19:08 <fsasaki> action: Felix to provide feedback on whether we need to look at XPath 2.0 Req/Use case and Web Service addressing (DONE)
14:19:43 <fsasaki> AIs not mentioned are PENDING
14:19:53 <fsasaki> topic: Reviewing W3C Work for ITS
14:20:32 <fsasaki> Yves: new drafts?
14:20:43 <fsasaki> Felix: only mobileOK tests, not relevant to ITS
14:21:00 <fsasaki> Yves: we'll keep SRX and XLIFF
14:21:11 <fsasaki> topic: BP discussion
14:21:16 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevLang
14:21:42 <fsasaki> Yves: Christian said he has nothing to add for this BP
14:22:28 <fsasaki> Felix: propose to add a link to http://www.w3.org/2001/xml.xsd
14:23:54 <fsasaki> Yves: we don't need a warning about the language data type?
14:24:23 <fsasaki> Felix: yes, people can use the XML Schema data type or CDATA for DTDs
14:25:33 <fsasaki> action: Yves to rework note about type for xml:lang in BP 1
14:25:46 <fsasaki> now BP 2
14:25:54 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#DevDir
14:27:42 <fsasaki> Felix: The title says "פעילות הבינאום, W3C" in Hebrew. might need to be marked up as an example
14:28:12 <fsasaki> action: Yves to markup "פעילות הבינאום, W3C" as an example
14:29:55 <fsasaki> topic: BP 3  and following if time allows (not on the agenda, discussed during the meeting)
14:32:34 <fsasaki> (Yves reads the BP)
14:33:19 <fsasaki> Jirka: in BP 2, we need an link to [Unicode in XML]
14:33:33 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll do that, thanks
14:37:27 <fsasaki> Felix: need to look why example is not auto generated in:
14:37:37 <fsasaki> "Note: In many occurences, moving translatable text from attribute value to element content can result in having a sentence embedded within another one. For instance, in the *exampe 7*"
14:37:47 <fsasaki> Felix: check specref for references to examples
14:38:02 <fsasaki> action: Felix to check specref for references to examples
14:38:54 <fsasaki> Yves: do we need the reference to [Unicode in XML] here?
14:39:17 <fsasaki> .. maybe better for BP 2, in the "Reference links"
14:39:21 <fsasaki> Felix: +1
14:40:06 <fsasaki> Moving to BP 4
14:44:20 <Zakim> -Jirka
14:47:26 <fsasaki> Felix: propose to put "to improve translation throughput" after "exceptions"
14:47:29 <fsasaki> topic: AOB
14:47:41 <fsasaki> Yves: will send a mail saying we went through BP 3 and 4
14:47:51 <fsasaki> .. we work on 5 and 6 for next time
14:48:38 <fsasaki> .. people need to look at 5 and 6 in addition to 3 and 4
14:49:09 <fsasaki> Felix: let's see how many comments come for the BPs
14:49:15 <fsasaki> Yves: another "AOB":
14:49:32 <fsasaki> .. maybe useful to have an ITS rules repository
14:49:45 <fsasaki> .. people could provide rules for their format
14:50:28 <fsasaki> .. not as official rules for a schema, only as examples
14:50:56 <fsasaki> .. can be explained by a disclaimer on the main page
14:51:54 <fsasaki> .. page of ITS WG saying "these are example rules, send us yours if you want"
14:52:18 <fsasaki> Felix: to have a directory under /International/its ?
14:52:20 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
14:52:25 <fsasaki> .. I'll work on that later
14:52:42 <YvesS> any other bussiness Jirka?
14:53:09 <YvesS> ok
14:53:18 <YvesS> bye all
14:53:25 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
14:53:26 <Zakim> -Felix
14:53:27 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
14:53:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, +420.4.824.0.aaaa, Felix, Jirka
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14:53:50 <fsasaki> present+ Christian (on IRC), Felix, Jirka, Yves
14:53:58 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:53:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
14:59:53 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> I see 18 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-actions.rdf :
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to check language data type in XML Schema (DONE) [1]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-03-17
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to contact JIS people in Japan about possiblity of "ITS as JIS" (DONE) [2]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-05-52
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to find IBM contact for ITS (DONE) [3]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-06-56
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to contact IBM AC rep [4]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-07-27
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to tweak XSLT to generate automatic example numbering and titleing like "Example 7: Better design" (DONE) [5]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-07-49
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to update status section for each new BP WD publicatation with 1) BP which need review and 2) BP which we think are finished. (ONGOING) [6]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-08-26
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jirka to draft a mail for contacting editors vendors for ITS (PENDING) [7]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-08-39
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to contact Najib and Felix about BP 2 (DROPPED) [8]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-09-56
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jirka to tweak XSLT about including examples [9]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-12-38
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jirka to fix DocBook issues mentioned by Christian (DONE) [10]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-14-03
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jirka to integrate the DocBook section into the BP document (DONE) [11]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-14-27
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to contact some ISO people about the "ITS as ISO standard" topic (DONE) [12]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-16-20
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everybody to look at SPARQL and the SPARQL result format for potential ITS review (DONE) [13]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-17-54
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everybody to look into XLIFF 1.2, TMX 2, SRX 2 (ONGONG) [14]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-18-23
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to provide feedback on whether we need to look at XPath 2.0 Req/Use case and Web Service addressing (DONE) [15]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-19-08
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to rework note about type for xml:lang in BP 1 [16]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-25-33
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to markup "פעילות הבינאום, W3C" as an example [17]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-28-12
14:59:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to check specref for references to examples [18]
14:59:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/06/06-i18nits-irc#T14-38-02
14:59:54 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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