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14:50:32 <ChrisW> zakim, this will be rif
14:50:32 <Zakim> ok, ChrisW; I see SW_RIF()11:00AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
14:50:52 <ChrisW> Meeting: RIF Telecon 29 May 2007
14:50:58 <ChrisW> Chair: Chris Welty
14:51:16 <ChrisW> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2007May/0066.html
14:51:31 <ChrisW> ChrisW has changed the topic to: 28 May RIF Telecon Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rif-wg/2007May/0066.html
14:51:42 <ChrisW> Scribe: Jeff Pan
14:51:59 <ChrisW> agenda+ Admin
14:52:05 <ChrisW> agenda+ F2F
14:52:09 <ChrisW> agenda+ Liason
14:52:19 <ChrisW> agenda+ Core - Builtins
14:52:32 <ChrisW> agenda+ Core - XML Syntax
14:52:39 <ChrisW> agenda+ UCR
14:52:43 <ChrisW> agenda+ AOB
14:53:00 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
14:53:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
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14:56:18 <Zakim> +??P3
14:56:23 <Francois> zakim, ??P3 is me.
14:56:23 <Zakim> +Francois; got it
14:56:30 <Francois> zakim, mute me.
14:56:30 <Zakim> sorry, Francois, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
14:57:59 <Zakim> +[NRCC]
14:58:11 <Harold> zakim, NRCC is me
14:58:11 <Zakim> +Harold; got it
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15:00:58 <Francois> zakim, mute me.
15:00:58 <Zakim> Francois should now be muted
15:01:12 <Zakim> +??P29
15:01:21 <IgorMozetic> zakim, ??P29 is me
15:01:21 <Zakim> +IgorMozetic; got it
15:01:25 <IgorMozetic> zakim, mute me
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15:02:16 <Zakim> +Jeff_Pan
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15:02:17 <Zakim> +csma; got it
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15:03:09 <csma> scribe: Jeff Pan
15:03:17 <Zakim> +Allen_Ginsberg
15:03:20 <csma> scribenick: Jeff_Pan
15:03:39 <csma> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:03:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see Francois (muted), Harold, Sandro, IgorMozetic (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), csma, Jeff_Pan, DavidHirtle, Allen_Ginsberg
15:04:04 <Zakim> + +39.047.101.aaaa
15:04:46 <Zakim> +Axel_Polleres
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15:04:56 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:04:56 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:05:19 <Zakim> +ChrisW
15:05:30 <AxelPolleres> Hi!
15:05:41 <Zakim> +Deborah_Nichols
15:05:53 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:05:55 <Zakim> csma was already muted, csma
15:05:57 <ChrisW> scribenick: JeffP
15:06:14 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
15:06:14 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Admin" taken up [from ChrisW]
15:06:44 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:06:46 <Zakim> -[IBM]
15:06:46 <JeffP> ChrisW: we don't have telecon next week
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15:06:54 <JeffP> as the weekend will be our FTF
15:06:56 <csma> no
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15:07:22 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
15:07:22 <Zakim> agendum 2. "F2F" taken up [from ChrisW]
15:07:23 <Zakim> +[IBM]
15:07:25 <JeffP> ChrisW: any changes to the agenda?
15:07:29 <JeffP> no
15:07:50 <StellaMitchell> zakim, [ibm] is temporarily me
15:07:50 <Zakim> +StellaMitchell; got it
15:07:52 <Zakim> -ChrisW
15:07:57 <JeffP> FTF starts at 9am 
15:08:00 <csma> we do not hear you
15:08:14 <csma> zakim, unmute me
15:08:14 <Zakim> csma should no longer be muted
15:08:29 <ChrisW> hmmm
15:08:44 <JeffP> (JeffP will arrive about noon)
15:08:50 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
15:08:54 <Zakim> +ChrisW
15:09:15 <Zakim> +??P46
15:09:49 <JeffP> josb: THe meeting will be at the university, outside the centre
15:10:09 <JeffP> ... two ways to reaching it: taxi or bus 
15:10:10 <sandro> sandro has joined #rif
15:10:18 <JeffP> ... see the wiki
15:12:02 <JeffP> csma: there is a need of using the phone
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15:13:10 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
15:13:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Liason" taken up [from ChrisW]
15:13:31 <JeffP> ChrisW: any updates?
15:13:56 <JeffP> none
15:13:56 <ChrisW> zakim, close item 3
15:13:56 <Zakim> agendum 3, Liason, closed
15:13:57 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:13:59 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
15:13:59 <Zakim> 4. Core - Builtins [from ChrisW]
15:13:59 <PaulVincent> PRR update: final submisson supposedly in for June OMG meeting
15:14:00 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Core - Builtins" taken up [from ChrisW]
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15:14:20 <sandro> Okay, Jeff, I answered the registration survey for you.
15:14:34 <JeffP> Thanks, sandro
15:14:36 <csma> ACTION-291 done
15:14:56 <sandro> (bringing us to 25 people who will attend at least part of the meeting.)
15:15:01 <JeffP> ACTION-292 done
15:15:07 <csma> ACTION-290 complete
15:15:12 <JeffP> ACTION-285 done
15:15:45 <JeffP> ACTION-282 done
15:16:00 <csma> ACTION-281 continued
15:16:02 <AxelPolleres> s/292/291
15:16:05 <JeffP> ACTION-280 complete
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15:16:52 <JeffP> ACTION-230 dropped
15:17:16 <csma> zakim, mute me
15:17:16 <Zakim> csma should now be muted
15:17:17 <ChrisW> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/List_of_functions_and_operators
15:17:20 <Zakim> + +39.047.101.aacc
15:17:33 <MichaelKifer> zakim, aac is me
15:17:34 <Zakim> sorry, MichaelKifer, I do not recognize a party named 'aac'
15:17:44 <MichaelKifer> zakim, aacc is me
15:17:47 <JeffP> ChrisW: any discussions on this?
15:17:47 <Zakim> +MichaelKifer; got it
15:17:51 <csma> q?
15:18:00 <MichaelKifer> zakim, mute me
15:18:03 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should now be muted
15:18:32 <JeffP> Axel_Polleres: is there a function translating URIs to strings and vice versa?
15:19:34 <PaulaP>  fn:encode-for-uri is what you are looking for, Axel?
15:20:02 <JeffP> csma: maybe, but at the biginning we should focus the core ones
15:20:04 <AxelPolleres> paula, this is only one direction, the otherone is problematic, I think
15:20:21 <PaulaP> fn:escape-html-uri?
15:20:44 <JeffP> ChrisW: seems that one direction is possible
15:21:02 <csma> q+
15:21:03 <JeffP> Axel_Polleres: maybe good to keep it recorded
15:21:25 <josb> yes
15:21:26 <JeffP> yes
15:21:35 <MichaelKifer> we should have toString for every type. why reinvent the wheel
15:21:37 <DavidHirtle> yes, anyURI
15:21:56 <DavidHirtle> http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-xmlschema-2-20010502/#anyURI
15:22:53 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#anyURI-functions
15:23:13 <PaulaP> there is just one function fn:resolve-uri
15:23:55 <AxelPolleres> what i wanted to state is that we might need something special for rif:iri
15:24:01 <JeffP> anyURI is not a sub-type of string
15:24:05 <PaulVincent> http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-2/#anyURI 
15:25:03 <JeffP> ChrisW: is there a general transforming functions?
15:25:17 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#casting
15:26:21 <MichaelKifer> zakim, unmute me
15:26:21 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should no longer be muted
15:26:29 <MichaelKifer> q+
15:27:09 <AxelPolleres> An example from RDF: FOAF uses tel: URI's for telephone numbers, vCard uses strings... if you want to convert, you need something...
15:27:31 <JeffP> ChrisW: we need to reuse XML Schema, if possible
15:28:35 <MichaelKifer> q-
15:28:39 <MichaelKifer> zakim, mute me
15:28:39 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should now be muted
15:29:28 <csma> q?
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15:30:13 <AxelPolleres> Summary: probably we only need to extend the casting of XPath/XPQuery to new primitive datatypes we introduce/use, such as e.g. rif:iri, yes?
15:30:32 <JeffP> q?
15:30:46 <AxelPolleres> what I mean is, we should nail down which basic sets of types AND which conversions we allow.
15:31:15 <csma> q?
15:31:44 <Harold> q+
15:33:07 <PaulaP> the wiki page points already to that document
15:33:12 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#func-concat
15:33:46 <PaulaP> perhaps is better to first decide on F&O
15:33:51 <PaulaP> and then link them
15:33:58 <JeffP> ChrisW: add links to their definitions
15:34:17 <PaulaP> ok
15:34:23 <PaulaP> I see
15:35:24 <PaulaP> thanks, Sandro 
15:35:54 <JeffP> Action: Sandro to put links to the F&O wiki page
15:35:54 <rifbot> Created ACTION-292 - Put links to the F&O wiki page [on Sandro Hawke - due 2007-06-05].
15:36:02 <csma> q?
15:37:14 <JeffP> ChrisW: we should read F&O before the FTF
15:37:36 <JeffP> in particular on what should/shouldn't in core and why
15:37:42 <sandro> ack csma 
15:37:45 <sandro> ack Harold 
15:38:43 <AxelPolleres> +1 to harold, allow all in principle, and only declare a subset normative!
15:40:17 <sandro> Sandro: so the use of an xpath function that we exclude will not be syntactically detectable.
15:43:44 <JeffP> csma: we have a mandated datatype in the charter
15:43:58 <sandro> s/datatype/list datatype/
15:44:31 <Harold> A F&O sequence can be represented as nested Uniterms in the normal Prolog manner.
15:45:00 <JeffP> Action: on Axel to prepare a datatype conversion proposal
15:45:00 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
15:45:18 <sandro> Action: Axel to prepare a datatype conversion proposal
15:45:18 <rifbot> Created ACTION-293 - Prepare a datatype conversion proposal [on Axel Polleres - due 2007-06-05].
15:45:32 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:45:32 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose StellaMitchell (muted)
15:45:36 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:45:36 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose DavidHirtle
15:45:46 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:45:46 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose PaulVincent
15:45:58 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:45:58 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose StellaMitchell (muted)
15:46:02 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:02 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose PaulVincent
15:46:04 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose csma
15:46:06 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:06 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Gary_Hallmark
15:46:08 <Harold> [e1, e2, ...., eN] --> Uniterm(e1 Uniterm(e2 Uniterm(... eN)...))
15:46:10 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:10 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose PaulVincent
15:46:14 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:14 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose josb
15:46:35 <ChrisW> zakim, pick a victim
15:46:35 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Sandro
15:47:09 <ABG> I have to go; see you in Innsbruck
15:47:23 <Zakim> -Allen_Ginsberg
15:47:24 <JeffP> Action: on Harold to prepare a proposal on sequences
15:47:24 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
15:47:31 <sandro> ACTION: Harold to propose a treatment of sequences
15:47:31 <rifbot> Created ACTION-294 - Propose a treatment of sequences [on Harold Boley - due 2007-06-05].
15:49:51 <sandro> Gary: Is there a way I can tell if a function is logical or non-logical (built-in) ?
15:50:24 <sandro> csma: (ie unbound variables allows as argument).
15:50:49 <sandro> chris: ie can only tell at runtime?
15:51:55 <JeffP> sandro: one solution by Harold is to have one builtin ...
15:52:17 <JeffP> ChrisW: Harold, Michael?
15:52:21 <MichaelKifer> zakim, unmute me
15:52:21 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should no longer be muted
15:52:59 <JeffP> MichaelKifer: I propose a special syntax
15:53:14 <Harold> User-defined functions can often be inverted: [a b c d] = append(?L ?M) tries to split [a b c d] into all prefix-postfix pairs ([],[a b c d]), ([a],[b c d]), ..., ([a b c d],[]).  
15:53:31 <csma> q?
15:55:12 <AxelPolleres> that would mean we talk about different types of atoms then...
15:55:52 <JeffP> MichaelKifer: different dialects have different name spaces
15:56:02 <AxelPolleres> that would touch on the CORE model, wouldn't it?
15:56:17 <sandro> Sandro: I think implementors would like to know when they are seeing a call to a builtin vs using a logic function.     Although we might want to hide the difference.
15:56:18 <Harold> Functions can already be defined in RIF WD1 using equations: append([] ?M) = ?M  append([?H | ?T] ?M) = ...
15:56:28 <MichaelKifer> zakim, mute me
15:56:28 <Zakim> MichaelKifer should now be muted
15:56:30 <JeffP> ChrisW: we seem to need more discussion on this
15:56:53 <AxelPolleres> q+
15:57:06 <JeffP> csma: we might not need a solution in the 2nd WD
15:57:26 <JeffP> AxelPolleres: we need to have a solution
15:57:39 <sandro> (Axel, your audio quality is quite poor)
15:57:42 <JeffP> Action: chairs to open an issue
15:57:42 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - chairs
15:58:29 <sandro> proposed ACTION: DeborahNichols open issue on whether the abstract syntax will distinguish between builtins and logic functions.
15:58:59 <sandro> ACTION: DeborahNichols open issue on whether the abstract syntax will distinguish between builtins and logic functions.
15:58:59 <rifbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - DeborahNichols
15:59:06 <sandro> ACTION: Deborah open issue on whether the abstract syntax will distinguish between builtins and logic functions.
15:59:06 <rifbot> Created ACTION-295 - Open issue on whether the abstract syntax will distinguish between builtins and logic functions. [on Deborah Nichols - due 2007-06-05].
15:59:10 <AxelPolleres> I can propose  a strawman syntax, taken from a system I work with which at least opens some requirements 
16:00:53 <Harold> For logic functions there are again two possibilities: uninterpreted functions and interpreted (equation-efined) functions. Only the latter ones can be compared with builtins.
16:01:01 <sandro> ACTION: Axel to propose strawman for resolving this new issue (builtins vs logic functions)
16:01:01 <rifbot> Created ACTION-296 - Propose strawman for resolving this new issue (builtins vs logic functions) [on Axel Polleres - due 2007-06-05].
16:01:07 <Zakim> -PaulVincent
16:01:12 <Harold> s/-efined/-defined/
16:01:18 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:01:18 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, ChrisW
16:01:22 <ChrisW> q?
16:01:25 <ChrisW> ack axel
16:01:27 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:01:27 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Core - XML Syntax" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:01:34 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
16:01:42 <Zakim> +Gary_Hallmark
16:01:48 <AxelPolleres> q-
16:02:03 <csma> q+
16:02:10 <csma> q-
16:02:43 <csma> q+
16:03:32 <JeffP> Christw: Did you propose the XML syntax for RIF Core will not use stripe-skipping
16:03:40 <JeffP> Gary: yes
16:05:03 <sandro> we lost you Chria.
16:05:06 <sandro> we lost you Chris.
16:06:53 <Harold> Gary, you're right, it's quite verbose to write And(arg1(Conjunct1) arg2(Conjunct2) ... argN(ConjunctN)) rather than just And(Conjunct1 Conjunct2 ... ConjunctN).
16:08:36 <PaulVincent> Apologies had to leave.
16:09:19 <JeffP> csma: We should avoid discussions on stripe-skipping in FTF
16:09:48 <Harold> I propose to omit stripes if they are 'artificial' (position-simulating) anyway such as arg1, arg2, ..., argN.
16:10:02 <JeffP> ChrisW: we need to proposal from abstract syntax to W3C XMLS
16:10:10 <Harold> q+
16:10:48 <Harold> Think back to the IRI vs. URI discussion: human readability.
16:11:53 <JeffP> sandro: human readability should not have 0 weight
16:11:55 <PaulaP> :)
16:12:12 <JeffP> q?
16:12:20 <csma> q-
16:12:24 <sandro> ack csma 
16:12:26 <sandro> ack Harold 
16:12:46 <Harold> rdf:_1, rdf:_2, ...
16:13:20 <sandro> I basically agree.
16:13:49 <sandro> Gary: I agree, unless the position has some special role, as in uniterm.
16:13:51 <sandro> +1 Gary
16:14:02 <JeffP> Gary: the first argument should be a name for function 
16:14:25 <JeffP> ChrisW: do we need a propsoal in FTF on this?
16:14:43 <Harold> s/the first argument should be a name for function/if the first argument is a name for function etc. then it should keep a stripe/
16:15:01 <JeffP> thanks, Harold
16:15:32 <Harold> Gary also mentioned the remaining positional arguments could get stripe-skipped.
16:17:38 <josb> q+
16:17:43 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:17:43 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, ChrisW
16:18:33 <sandro> q?
16:18:36 <sandro> ack josb 
16:18:37 <csma> ack josb
16:18:47 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:18:47 <Zakim> agendum 6. "UCR" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:18:57 <csma> ack allen
16:19:00 <ChrisW> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:19:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see Francois (muted), Harold, Sandro, IgorMozetic (muted), Leora_Morgenstern (muted), csma, Jeff_Pan, DavidHirtle, josb, Axel_Polleres, Deborah_Nichols (muted),
16:19:04 <Zakim> ... StellaMitchell (muted), ChrisW, PaulaP (muted), MichaelKifer (muted), Gary_Hallmark
16:19:28 <ChrisW> allen - your action #274 status?
16:20:06 <PaulaP> yes
16:20:12 <csma> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/wiki/Design_Constraints
16:20:25 <PaulaP> I added a couple of requirements today
16:20:33 <PaulaP> yes
16:21:58 <JeffP> Issues 14-21 to be closed?
16:22:10 <JeffP> Deborah: does it mean resolved?
16:22:32 <JeffP> sandro: delay till phase 2
16:22:54 <sandro> the typical term is "Postponed"
16:24:00 <ChrisW> q?
16:24:06 <ChrisW> zakim, next item
16:24:06 <Zakim> agendum 7. "AOB" taken up [from ChrisW]
16:24:45 <JeffP> csma: we will start at 9am on June 2
16:24:49 <AxelPolleres> THe brave can meet at 6am to climb a mountain!
16:25:00 <csma> a small mountain?
16:25:04 <PaulaP> +1
16:25:05 <csma> +1
16:25:09 <Zakim> -Deborah_Nichols
16:25:11 <sandro> rdml   (roll down mountain laughing...)
16:25:11 <Zakim> -IgorMozetic
16:25:11 <PaulaP> bye
16:25:11 <AxelPolleres> +1
16:25:12 <Zakim> -Harold
16:25:14 <Zakim> -MichaelKifer
16:25:15 <Zakim> -Axel_Polleres
16:25:16 <Zakim> -Leora_Morgenstern
16:25:17 <Zakim> -StellaMitchell
16:25:19 <Zakim> -josb
16:25:20 <Zakim> -PaulaP
16:25:20 <GaryHallmark> better than moving the mountain
16:25:21 <Zakim> -DavidHirtle
16:25:22 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make logs public
16:25:30 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:25:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
16:25:37 <Zakim> -Gary_Hallmark
16:26:36 <ChrisW> zakim, who is the phone?
16:26:36 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, ChrisW.
16:26:38 <Zakim> -Jeff_Pan
16:26:39 <csma> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:26:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see Francois (muted), Sandro, csma, ChrisW
16:26:59 <ChrisW> zakim, drop francois
16:26:59 <Zakim> Francois is being disconnected
16:27:01 <Zakim> -Francois
16:27:09 <Francois> bye.
16:27:51 <ChrisW> Regrets: DaveReynolds
16:33:14 <Zakim> -Sandro
16:33:15 <Zakim> -ChrisW
16:33:17 <Zakim> -csma
16:33:19 <Zakim> SW_RIF()11:00AM has ended
16:33:20 <Zakim> Attendees were Francois, Harold, Sandro, IgorMozetic, Leora_Morgenstern, Jeff_Pan, csma, DavidHirtle, Allen_Ginsberg, +39.047.101.aaaa, josb, Axel_Polleres, ChrisW,
16:33:22 <Zakim> ... Deborah_Nichols, StellaMitchell, Gary_Hallmark, PaulVincent, PaulaP, +39.047.101.aacc, MichaelKifer
16:33:29 <ChrisW> rrsagent, make minutes
16:33:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/29-rif-minutes.html ChrisW
16:34:12 <ChrisW> looks like its ready, Jeff
16:34:19 <ChrisW> thanks for scribing
16:42:18 <csma> csma has left #rif
16:43:39 <JeffP> OK - will send to the list soon
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