17:42:05 RRSAgent has joined #sml 17:42:05 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-irc 17:42:53 zakim, who's on 17:42:53 I don't understand 'who's on', johnarwe 17:43:35 list 17:43:40 zakim, list 17:43:40 I see WS_Policy(F2F)9:00AM active 17:43:42 also scheduled at this time is WS_Policy(Editors)12:00PM 17:45:45 plh has joined #sml 17:45:57 zakim, this will be sml 17:45:57 ok, plh; I see XML_(SML WG)2:00PM scheduled to start in 15 minutes 17:47:06 Meeting: SML Working Group 17:47:49 Chair: John, Pratul 17:47:59 Scribe: plh 17:48:05 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-minutes.html plh 17:53:01 Sandy has joined #sml 17:55:55 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007May/0001.html 17:56:00 plh has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2007May/0001.html 17:57:08 ginny has joined #sml 17:58:30 trackbot, status 17:58:33 XML_(SML WG)2:00PM has now started 17:58:40 +Ed_Rice 17:58:58 +Plh 17:59:38 zakim, Ed_Rice is really Virginia_Smith 17:59:38 +Virginia_Smith; got it 17:59:46 + +1.425.985.aaaa 18:00:02 Ed_Rice? 18:00:04 zakim, aaaa is Pratul 18:00:04 +Pratul; got it 18:00:12 + +1.845.433.aabb 18:00:38 zakim, aabb is John 18:00:38 +John; got it 18:00:58 +??P5 18:01:17 +Sandy 18:02:04 zakim, ??p5 is Marvin_Waschke 18:02:04 +Marvin_Waschke; got it 18:02:09 + +1.215.922.aacc 18:02:27 zakim, aacc is James Lynn 18:02:27 I don't understand 'aacc is James Lynn', plh 18:02:39 zakim, aacc is James_Lynn 18:02:39 +James_Lynn; got it 18:02:47 zakim, who is here? 18:02:47 On the phone I see Virginia_Smith, Plh, Pratul, John, Marvin_Waschke, Sandy, James_Lynn 18:02:49 On IRC I see ginny, Sandy, plh, RRSAgent, Zakim, johnarwe, trackbot-ng 18:03:05 ginny is Virginia_Smith 18:03:21 pratul has joined #sml 18:03:28 zakim, who is here? 18:03:28 On the phone I see Virginia_Smith, Plh, Pratul, John, Marvin_Waschke, Sandy, James_Lynn 18:03:30 On IRC I see pratul, ginny, Sandy, plh, RRSAgent, Zakim, johnarwe, trackbot-ng 18:04:41 cgi-irc has joined #sml 18:06:21 Regrets: Kirk Wilson, Paul Lipton, Bassam Tabbara, Heather Kreger 18:06:42 jim has joined #sml 18:06:54 Regrets: Kirk Wilson, Paul Lipton, Bassam Tabbara, Heather Kreger, David Orchard 18:09:08 Topic: Introduction of chairs, team contacts and participants 18:09:25 [going around the table] 18:12:57 Topic: Administrative 18:14:01 [John is going through the list of resources] 18:14:29 John: everything is in the WG will be public unless you speak up to indicate oterhwise 18:14:39 s/oterhwise/otherwise/ 18:15:47 ... things like calling numbers, f2f meeting information will be Members-only 18:16:55 zakim, mute plh 18:16:55 Plh should now be muted 18:16:59 zakim, unmute plh 18:16:59 Plh should no longer be muted 18:19:07 John: bugzilla is intended for bugs in the spec. tracker is intended to track action items. 18:19:34 ACTION: Philippe to check the trackbot 18:19:34 Created ACTION-1 - Check the trackbot [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2007-05-31]. 18:21:42 JOhn: good standing rules: you're expected to make 2 out of 3 meetings 18:21:55 ... in a row 18:23:14 ... selection of scribes: we'll go through the list of participants for this duty. round robin approach. 18:23:38 ... Marvin is willing to scribe next week 18:26:33 Philippe: there is no enforced policy to zakim, but we provide support for it, unlike other teleconference bridge. 18:27:07 Topic: WG distributed meeting schedule 18:27:46 John: Pratul and I propose that the WG NOT take a break in August 2007. 18:28:04 ... any objection? 18:28:12 [none heard] 18:28:26 Resolution: No break in AUgust 2007 18:28:35 s/AUgust/August/ 18:29:05 John: any conflict with the current timeslot? 18:29:31 Resolution: Thursdays, 2-4pm US/Eastern, will be the timeslot 18:30:24 John: As a WG, we can't just declare our f2f days, we have to propose them to the coordination group. 18:32:01 John: first f2f meeting: Redmond, WA June 11-13 (hosted by Microsoft) 18:32:10 ... http://www.w3.org/2007/06/sml-f2f-logistics.html 18:34:03 ACTION: All to register for the f2f meeting 18:34:03 Sorry, couldn't find user - All 18:34:30 + +1.408.228.aadd 18:34:53 zakim, aadd is Zulah 18:34:53 +Zulah; got it 18:36:11 John: we need volunteer to host a f2f in August, probably later half of August. 18:36:37 ... see http://www.w3.org/Guide/hosting.htm 18:39:20 q+ 18:39:23 ack plh 18:39:30 q? 18:39:30 q+ 18:39:38 ack pratul 18:41:08 ... also let us know if you won't be available sometimes in August 18:42:42 John: October is an opportunity to meet next to the XML Schema WG 18:43:18 ... they're meeting on 8-12 of November, maybe in Redmond 18:43:28 ... we'll try to co-locate 18:45:21 q+ 18:45:42 ack ginny 18:45:53 s/November/October/ 18:47:03 Pratul: I'm under the impression that MS will likely host it, but the dates are definitive 18:47:30 John: I already told the CG that we are interested in co-locating 18:48:48 ... for the technical plenary, we'll skip since we'll try to co-locate with Schema 18:51:11 Topic: Submissing SML Issues 18:52:29 John: right now, we have http://www.w3.org/Submission/2007/SUBM-sml-20070321/ http://www.w3.org/Submission/2007/SUBM-sml-if-20070321/ 18:52:39 Sandy_ has joined #sml 18:52:54 Pratul: can I submit issues against the submission? 18:53:00 Philippe: please do 18:54:54 John: how to raise an issue with Member confidential information in it? 18:55:18 Philippe: it never happened in the past, best is to deal with it if the case happens 18:55:21 Topic: Editors 18:56:18 mwaschke has joined #sml 18:56:22 John: their responsabilities will be to write the resolution of the WG into the specifications 18:56:30 ... will need volunteers 18:58:22 ... any editor is expected to be able to edit any of the documents. 2-3 hours/week. 18:58:29 ... we're looking for 4 to 6 people 18:58:56 ... we need to identify the editors by the 1st f2f meeting 19:00:09 Pratul: editor' names will appear at the top of the specification 19:01:39 Topic: SML WG F2F Agenda 19:01:57 John: we need to know about potential f2f agenda items 19:03:14 ... we'll put any technical issue that come up between now and then 19:05:02 ... the notion of where the schema comes from will need to be opened as an issue 19:05:18 ... the current draft that addresses where to fetch the schemas 19:05:32 ... nothing which is specific and normative enough 19:06:12 ... there is no rules defined in SML IF 19:07:03 Topic: other business? 19:08:31 [adjourned] 19:08:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-minutes.html plh 19:08:46 -Virginia_Smith 19:08:53 -Marvin_Waschke 19:09:25 -James_Lynn 19:13:18 -Plh 19:13:20 -Zulah 19:13:22 -John 19:13:23 -Pratul 19:13:25 -Sandy 19:13:26 XML_(SML WG)2:00PM has ended 19:13:27 Attendees were Plh, Virginia_Smith, +1.425.985.aaaa, Pratul, +1.845.433.aabb, John, Sandy, Marvin_Waschke, +1.215.922.aacc, James_Lynn, +1.408.228.aadd, Zulah 19:13:35 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-minutes.html plh 19:13:50 ginny has left #sml 19:13:55 06Waschke, Marvin 19:13:55 Tabbara, Bassam 19:13:55 Eckert, Zulah 19:13:55 Kreger, Heather 19:13:55 Orchard, David 19:13:56 Smith, Virginia 19:13:58 Gao, Sandy 19:14:00 Lynn, James 19:14:02 Lipton, Paul 19:14:04 zakim, bye 19:14:04 Zakim has left #sml 19:14:27 rrsagent, bye 19:14:27 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-actions.rdf : 19:14:27 ACTION: Philippe to check the trackbot [1] 19:14:27 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-irc#T18-19-34 19:14:27 ACTION: All to register for the f2f meeting [2] 19:14:27 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/24-sml-irc#T18-34-03