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13:51:12 <shadi> zakim, this will be ert
13:51:12 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
13:51:19 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:51:24 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:51:32 <shadi> regrets: CarlosI, CarlosV
13:51:55 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0014.html
13:52:06 <shadi> agenda+ HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments
13:52:18 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema comments
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13:55:52 <shadi> regrets: CarlosI, CarlosV, Charles
13:58:33 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
13:58:41 <Zakim> +JohannesK
14:00:28 <Zakim> +Shadi
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14:06:15 <Zakim> + +43.702.468.aaaa
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14:08:39 <JohannesK> zakim, +43.702.468.aaaa is really Reinhard
14:08:40 <Zakim> +Reinhard; got it
14:09:32 <shadi> agenda?
14:09:46 <shadi> zakim, please take up agendum 1
14:09:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. "HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments" taken up [from shadi]
14:10:07 <shadi> scribe: Reinhard
14:13:44 <Reinhard> JK: discusses issue 001 - incomplete response should be noted, when connection failed no response note can be taken,
14:14:06 <Reinhard> JK: item was discussed in last conference
14:16:55 <Reinhard> JK: talks about an incomplete HTTP-response
14:18:17 <Reinhard> SAZ: possible scenario: client sends request, which is incomplete. Then a client might also recieve an incomplete response
14:20:57 <Reinhard> SAZ: How does EARL handle incomplete responses (eg because of a server timeout)?
14:22:46 <Reinhard> JK: Issue 003 was closed as NO during last conference.
14:23:13 <drooks> i think last week we said that issue 001 could be represented in HTTP RDF through the absence of an expected response class
14:24:04 <Reinhard> JK: It is out of scope of the vocabulary
14:24:25 <Reinhard> SAZ: Thinks it is META-Information on requests and responses
14:25:05 <Reinhard> SAZ: would recommend it at least as optional information
14:28:08 <Reinhard> JK: If we would take up response times - which element to take (eg from DC)
14:33:42 <Reinhard> SAZ: There could be use cases where recording of timestamps might be useful in HTTP in RDF
14:35:11 <Reinhard> ACTION: SAZ: get feedback from working group on timestamp issues
14:35:51 <Reinhard> SAZ: takes up Issue-017
14:39:11 <Reinhard> JK: if default character encoding cannot be used, we wanted to use DATA URI
14:41:07 <Reinhard> JK: inclusion of DTD can be solved through combination of seperate properties, which are combined
14:41:51 <Reinhard> SAZ: We need a different concept for the body
14:42:12 <Reinhard> SAZ: Maybe different classes according to different content types
14:49:08 <Reinhard> ACTION: JK: draft a concept for the solution of problem with body property (Issue 14,15 & 17)
14:53:23 <Reinhard> SAZ: we should try to get message headers as literal values
14:54:55 <Reinhard> JK: we record the response code, but some persons might want to know the actual meaning
14:59:14 <Reinhard> SAZ: Literal vs. predifined value consideration is also an performace issue
15:00:22 <Reinhard> SAZ: keep on discussing the advantages/disadvantages of literal values and predifined values on the mailing list
15:05:07 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0015.html
15:06:51 <Reinhard> JK: Thinks this approach is valuable, maybe also for other properties
15:08:15 <Reinhard> RESOLUTION: tentativly accepted solution provided by SAZ
15:13:31 <Zakim> -JohannesK
15:13:34 <Zakim> -Reinhard
15:13:38 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:13:39 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
15:13:41 <Zakim> Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, Reinhard
15:16:19 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:16:27 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:16:32 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:16:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-minutes.html shadi
15:16:33 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:16:37 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:16:37 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-actions.rdf :
15:16:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: SAZ: get feedback from working group on timestamp issues [1]
15:16:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-irc#T14-35-11
15:16:37 <RRSAgent> ACTION: JK: draft a concept for the solution of problem with body property (Issue 14,15 & 17) [2]
15:16:37 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-irc#T14-49-08