IRC log of er on 2007-05-23

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13:51:12 [shadi]

zakim, this will be ert

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ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes

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meeting: ERT WG

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chair: Shadi

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regrets: CarlosI, CarlosV

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0014.html

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agenda+ HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments

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agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema comments

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regrets: CarlosI, CarlosV, Charles

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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started

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+JohannesK

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+Shadi

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+ +43.702.468.aaaa

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14:08:39 [JohannesK]

zakim, +43.702.468.aaaa is really Reinhard

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+Reinhard; got it

14:09:32 [shadi]

agenda?

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zakim, please take up agendum 1

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agendum 1. "HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments" taken up [from shadi]

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scribe: Reinhard

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JK: discusses issue 001 - incomplete response should be noted, when connection failed no response note can be taken,

14:14:06 [Reinhard]

JK: item was discussed in last conference

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JK: talks about an incomplete HTTP-response

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SAZ: possible scenario: client sends request, which is incomplete. Then a client might also recieve an incomplete response

14:20:57 [Reinhard]

SAZ: How does EARL handle incomplete responses (eg because of a server timeout)?

14:22:46 [Reinhard]

JK: Issue 003 was closed as NO during last conference.

14:23:13 [drooks]

i think last week we said that issue 001 could be represented in HTTP RDF through the absence of an expected response class

14:24:04 [Reinhard]

JK: It is out of scope of the vocabulary

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SAZ: Thinks it is META-Information on requests and responses

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SAZ: would recommend it at least as optional information

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JK: If we would take up response times - which element to take (eg from DC)

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SAZ: There could be use cases where recording of timestamps might be useful in HTTP in RDF

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ACTION: SAZ: get feedback from working group on timestamp issues

14:35:51 [Reinhard]

SAZ: takes up Issue-017

14:39:11 [Reinhard]

JK: if default character encoding cannot be used, we wanted to use DATA URI

14:41:07 [Reinhard]

JK: inclusion of DTD can be solved through combination of seperate properties, which are combined

14:41:51 [Reinhard]

SAZ: We need a different concept for the body

14:42:12 [Reinhard]

SAZ: Maybe different classes according to different content types

14:49:08 [Reinhard]

ACTION: JK: draft a concept for the solution of problem with body property (Issue 14,15 & 17)

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SAZ: we should try to get message headers as literal values

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JK: we record the response code, but some persons might want to know the actual meaning

14:59:14 [Reinhard]

SAZ: Literal vs. predifined value consideration is also an performace issue

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SAZ: keep on discussing the advantages/disadvantages of literal values and predifined values on the mailing list

15:05:07 [shadi]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0015.html

15:06:51 [Reinhard]

JK: Thinks this approach is valuable, maybe also for other properties

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RESOLUTION: tentativly accepted solution provided by SAZ

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-JohannesK

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-Reinhard

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-Shadi

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WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were JohannesK, Shadi, Reinhard

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-minutes.html shadi

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rrsagent, make logs world

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: SAZ: get feedback from working group on timestamp issues [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-irc#T14-35-11

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ACTION: JK: draft a concept for the solution of problem with body property (Issue 14,15 & 17) [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-er-irc#T14-49-08