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13:49:45 <ivan> rrsagent, set log public
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13:56:10 <Zakim> SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
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13:56:45 <Zakim> +Dave
13:57:54 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-617
13:57:54 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
13:57:56 <Zakim> +Ivan
13:58:18 <Zakim> +??P5
13:58:30 <ivan> zakim, ??P5 is benjee
13:58:30 <Zakim> +benjee; got it
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13:59:24 <ivan> zakim, Dave is David
13:59:24 <Zakim> +David; got it
13:59:41 <wing> zakim, code?
13:59:41 <Zakim> the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
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13:59:53 <Frank> Hi Wing
13:59:55 <ivan> Regrets: Leo, Uldis, Pasquale
14:00:00 <wing> hey frank!
14:00:08 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:00:13 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:00:13 <Zakim> +wing; got it
14:00:49 <Zakim> + +1.781.273.aaaa
14:01:02 <Zakim> + +49.895.480.aabb
14:01:02 <Zakim> +Susie
14:01:10 <ivan> zakim, aaaa is Kingsley
14:01:10 <Zakim> +Kingsley; got it
14:01:21 <ivan> zakim, aabb is Dunja
14:01:21 <Zakim> +Dunja; got it
14:01:34 <Zakim> + +1.603.557.aacc
14:01:56 <Zakim> +PaulaP
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14:04:02 <_uldis> uldis here. sorry i can't participate in the voice call.
14:04:02 <Zakim> +LeeF
14:04:15 <Paulap> me Zakim, mute me
14:04:59 <_uldis> if there are some people from SWEO present at ESWC 2007 in Innsbruck (June 3-7) then we can make an informal meet-up
14:05:32 <_uldis> not too many are going to be there (probably), so it won't be a full f2f meeting
14:05:44 <PaulaP> I'll be there during June 2-8, 2007
14:05:46 <Karen> Karen has joined #sweo
14:06:03 <Zakim> +Karen_Myers
14:06:39 <_uldis> PaulaP: see you there. i'll be there June 2(or 3)-8.
14:07:11 <ivan> zakim, who is here?
14:07:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see Frank_Chum, David, Ivan, benjee, wing, Kingsley, Dunja, Susie, +1.603.557.aacc, PaulaP (muted), LeeF (muted), Karen_Myers
14:07:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see Karen, Susie, Dunitschka, wing, Frank, kidehen, bengee, PaulaP, RRSAgent, Zakim, drooks, _uldis, kjetilk, ivan, LeeF
14:08:24 <Zakim> +??P39
14:08:38 <kjetilk> Zakim, ??P39 is me
14:08:38 <Zakim> +kjetilk; got it
14:12:07 <Dunitschka> update on community projects: nothing new
14:12:11 <kidehen> Kingsley's update re. Information Gathering
14:13:12 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/group/wiki/Semantic_Web_Flyer
14:13:17 <kidehen> Input form effort is outstanding due to some information infrastructure issues (following power failure over the weekend in the area where we are situated: Burlington, MA). I should have a machine and DB combo setup for one of my admins to pickup with Ivan
14:13:41 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/group/wiki/first_drafts
14:13:58 <Dunitschka> SW Flyer: first drafts for the first page
14:14:01 <kidehen> Re. Community Projects:  CIA Factbook and Musicbrainz have been added to the ever growing collection of Openly accessible and URI dereferencable RDF Data Sets
14:15:12 <PaulaP> Dunja explains the green version of the first version
14:15:27 <PaulaP> Dunja explains now the idea of the second version, the pink one
14:16:20 <PaulaP> Ivan: the colour of the pink version is a bit too strong
14:16:44 <PaulaP> Susie: +1 to Ivan's comment
14:17:06 <kjetilk> q+
14:17:16 <PaulaP> Susie: share the link by email
14:17:36 <PaulaP> Susie: group to provide comments on these versions
14:17:52 <bengee> ...or to make it available in a public area?
14:17:56 <PaulaP> Ivan: W3C's opinion would be good
14:18:12 <bengee> (as /me still can't access the private wiki space)
14:18:16 <PaulaP> Ivan: I like the green version 
14:19:04 <PaulaP> Ivan: usage of fonts should be make clear...our house fonts would be probably better
14:20:06 <_uldis> the DNA structure on the pink is nice though. 
14:20:45 <_uldis> can we try a DNA version for different colors and see how they look?
14:20:49 <Karen> In print materials, we recommend Gill Sans and Gill Sans Bold from Adobe Systems. Walbaum may be used for a second font. Times Roman may be substituted for Walbaum.
14:21:02 <PaulaP> thanks, Karen for the information
14:21:18 <Karen> You're welcome; from the CommTeam guidelines
14:22:08 <Karen> q
14:22:13 <Karen> q+
14:22:14 <PaulaP> Group: Semantic Web not particular to life sciences...
14:22:24 <kjetilk> ack kj
14:22:25 <ivan> ack kjet
14:22:55 <PaulaP> Dunja: another draft of the pink version...DNA structure not prioritized
14:23:05 <kjetilk> +1 for that
14:23:10 <PaulaP> Ivan: not bound to a specific area
14:23:16 <ivan> ack karen
14:23:26 <PaulaP> Karen: offers a couple of suggestions 
14:24:07 <PaulaP> Karen: importance of data intergration for example
14:24:26 <PaulaP> Karen: high-level brochure taking this in consideration
14:24:56 <PaulaP> Susie: pink version less pink and more general would be good
14:25:08 <PaulaP> Ivan: I like the green colour better
14:25:23 <Zakim> - +1.603.557.aacc
14:25:34 <PaulaP> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/group/wiki/Semantic_Web_Flyer
14:26:38 <Dunitschka> Paula: deleted bulidingblocks, Susie added something on W3C
14:26:51 <Dunitschka> Ivan: enough space on the flyer?
14:27:18 <Dunitschka> Susie: descriptions on W3C, SWEO can be shorter
14:27:49 <Dunitschka> Ivan: is it worth having an item on SWEO at all?
14:28:12 <Dunitschka> Ivan/Susie: delete the SWEO part
14:28:44 <Dunitschka> Paula: img on data integration
14:28:58 <Dunitschka> Ivan: the eye is too prominent
14:29:52 <Dunitschka> Paula: draft for giving a guideline for a professional version 
14:30:06 <Dunitschka> use case - update
14:30:29 <Dunitschka> Ivan: very soon 11-12 use cases - can be published
14:31:27 <Dunitschka> Susie: maybe a yahoo use case
14:31:51 <Karen> q+
14:32:20 <Dunitschka> Susie will be at the ESTC (31 May-1 June)
14:34:18 <ivan> ack karen
14:34:31 <Dunitschka> Susie: Lilly use case in June
14:35:24 <Dunitschka> Karen: OMG is putting up a new website with a lot of ressources
14:37:11 <Dunitschka> update on Logo progress
14:37:59 <Dunitschka> Susie: GRDDL group is developing logos
14:38:57 <Dunitschka> Ivan: its only a grddl logo; idea was to adapt that for a SW logo
14:39:21 <Susie> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-grddl-wg/2007May/0043.html
14:40:29 <PaulaP> +1 to Ivan's comment on GRDDL logos
14:41:03 <Dunitschka> Ivan: Benjamin to get in contact with grddl group to share logo ideas
14:41:27 <PaulaP> but I think they go for blue,not black
14:43:45 <bengee> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/Logos/SemWebLogoIdeas
14:44:46 <Dunitschka> Benjamin: please give comments on the proposals
14:46:20 <Dunitschka> Ivan: very abstract - difficulties to see the SW
14:46:26 <Dunitschka> +1
14:48:04 <Karen> Let me share with CommTeam first
14:50:02 <Dunitschka> enterprise survey progress
14:50:03 <Zakim> -kjetilk
14:50:16 <Dunitschka> Karen: more next week
14:50:53 <PaulaP> bye
14:50:54 <Zakim> -Susie
14:50:55 <Zakim> -benjee
14:50:55 <Zakim> -Karen_Myers
14:50:56 <Zakim> -David
14:50:58 <Zakim> -Dunja
14:50:58 <Zakim> -PaulaP
14:51:00 <Zakim> -Frank_Chum
14:51:02 <Zakim> -Ivan
14:51:03 <Zakim> -Kingsley
14:51:04 <Zakim> -wing
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14:51:27 <kjetilk> uh, or did Zakim die?
14:51:42 <ivan> no, you quit earlier...
14:51:54 <ivan> rrsagent, make draft
14:51:54 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make draft', ivan.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:52:07 <kjetilk> ok, good I lost less then a  minute of the meeting :-)
14:52:23 <ivan> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:52:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/23-SWEO-minutes.html ivan
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14:52:30 <ivan> rrsagent, bye
14:52:30 <RRSAgent> I see no action items