IRC log of sweo on 2007-05-02

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Meeting: SWEO Weekly telco

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Chair: Susie

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Regrets: Dunja, Pasquale, Uldis

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zakim, code

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I don't understand 'code', wing

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zakim, code?

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the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing

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+??P8

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+[IBMCambridge]

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zakim, IBMCambridge is wing

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+wing; got it

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+ +1.317.435.aaaa

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+??P11

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+ +49.892.180.aabb

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+??P17

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+Karen

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Zakim, ??P17 is me

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+kjetilk; got it

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zakim, ??p8 is me

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+martind; got it

14:03:14 [ivan]

zakim, code?

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the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ivan

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+Danny

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zakim, danny is ivan

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+ivan; got it

14:04:05 [kjetilk]

Zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see wing, martind, +1.317.435.aaaa, ??P11, PaulaP (muted), kjetilk, Karen, ivan

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On IRC I see Karen, PaulaP, iomurchu, wing, martind, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan, kjetilk

14:05:05 [Karen]

Today's Agenda

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1. Summary of F2F

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2. Community Task actions

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...information gathering

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3. Update with use cases

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4. Logo update

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5. Survey update

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+ +1.603.897.aacc

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6. Progress on SW brochure

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F2F last week in Norway, hosted by Norwegian Oil Association

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Susie: Started by discussing progress since Nov. 2006 F2F

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...progress in regards to Charter

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...Outreach and Education

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...wonder how we can do more education; talking to universities perhaps

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...Susie to speak with Nigel [?]; spoke with Ian, thought it would be tricky

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q+

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...may not be an easy model

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...Ivan will also contact some people for ideas

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...another area in charter is organizing CIO-CTO type meetings

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...thinking it would be difficult to outreach to companies on our own

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...hard to access these people

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...maybe outreach one level lower, who may be more accessible than CTO-CIO

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...wonders about working with analysts on a meeting

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...for example, Gartner collaboration

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...or others like IDC or Forrester

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Action: Karen to investigate analyst relations

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Susie: would like to see more materials before we do outreach to new audiences

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...talked about community projects

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...decided to list the community projects on SWEO IG main page,

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not just on wiki

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...Kjetikl and Ivan to do

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Kjetilk: I have started but not done yet

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...I'll write blog post, status

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...not sure how much to include

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Susie: description of community projects should be brief; 2-3 sentences

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...provide context in our wolrd

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s/woldr/world

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...also talked about use cases, working on SW brochure

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...logo discussion for all of SW standards

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...small but productive group in Norway

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...second agenda item, Community Project

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Kjetilk: no further updates

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Susie: Updates on projects

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Action: Kjetilk to do outreach

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Susie: Use cases is next agenda item

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Ivan: I actively solicited use cases

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Norwegian Broadcasting Corporation

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...NFK, big Norwegian TV company has a huge archive of digitized material

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...presentation at conference; they said they would provide use case

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s/NFK/NRK/

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...some others I am following up with

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...in Boston I met June from Alzheimer's Research Foundation

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...she may provide use case as well

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...FAO Susie will review

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q+

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...Siemens, and ?

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Renault

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ack karen

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ack kjetil

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Kjetil: possible use case from ?

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Ivan: also from Computa

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s/Computas

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+??P6

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Susie: I have action item to review use cases and to email companies to establish new contacts

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Susie: I saw Giles Monday

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sorry

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...asked about use case from Pfizer

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meeting overrun

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zakim, ??P6 is Kingsley

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+Kingsley; got it

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...company is reorganizing; he probably cannot provide right now

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...Ted Slater in Ann Arbor may be helpful from Pfizer

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...may have more time than Giles

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Susie: I'll contact Sun; recent Business Week article referenced Kodak

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Action: Karen to send Susie Kodak contact person

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Susie: Chen is working on Chinese medicine portal

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...also Nokia for a case study

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...also Audi, GM, and Ford

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...Mary Tomale from McDonald Bradley doing defense work

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Ivan: What I hope is after we publish first batch, we'll hear from more companies

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ivan: you're hard to hear

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Zakim, who is talking?

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kjetilk, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Kingsley (58%), martind (9%), +1.317.435.aaaa (44%), ??P11 (51%)

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Susie: Yes, first round should help attract more

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Susie, the Pfizer project from UK is going well, and we might be able to get a use case from them.

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Susie: options for logos for Semantic Web

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although Benji cannot make call today

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...please look at logos for next time

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zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see wing, martind, +1.317.435.aaaa, ??P11, PaulaP (muted), kjetilk, Karen, ivan, +1.603.897.aacc, Kingsley

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On IRC I see Melli, kidehen, Karen, PaulaP, iomurchu, wing, martind, RRSAgent, Zakim, ivan, kjetilk

14:26:19 [Karen]

...Ian Jacobs, head of W3C CommTeam, wants to work with us

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...so that's good

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s/Benji/bengee/

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susie hasn't got phone port....

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apologies for being late / not on the phone, everyone

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Action: Karen to finalize SW survey summary

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Susie: Any progress on SW brochure?

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http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/group/wiki/Collateral_Material

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Paula: new version on wiki

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...I incorporated updates based on F2F meeting; please everyone look and give feedback

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...made quite a few changes

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Susie: invites everyone to look at new version

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...and send/email URL out to list

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Action: Paula will send email and explain changes

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Susie: Two sections to SWEO wiki, public and private

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...can you post to both?

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Paula: I can, but thought we would only make final version public

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Susie: it's ok to post much like the FAQ

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Action: Paula to move to public wiki

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Susie: Exciting that we finished the FAQ

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...and Ivan arranged to publish it on W3C home page

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Karen: also referencing it for outreach

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Susie: Wing mentioned his presentation to SiCOP went well

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...a US government organization

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...he had to do it remotely, so hard to gauge audience reaction

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Wing: Not sure, but it was straight forward; one question about Cambridge SW gathering

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wing: url for slide deck?

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Susie: Likes Wing's presentation and suggests pointer

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...SW gathering held last night

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...Kingsley did nice job hosting

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...many extra people from BioIT World attendees

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...we had promoted it and can do more outreach to them

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q+

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Susie: Feedback on SW gatherings; suggest that formats vary

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...networking, 2-3 demos, then R&D pub is format

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...maybe do a special gathering one month; or a demo focus another meeting; or panel

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Susie: +1

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...invites comments on these ideas

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Karen: mentions inquiries from BioIT about other SW gatherings in other cities

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Susie: SB Forum meetings quarterly, have experts

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...next meeting coincides with Semantic Technologies conference

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...Susie and Eric Miller on panel, Google, and Booz Allen Hamilton

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...panel being moderated by Jeff Pollack, Oracle

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I have a comment

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Susie: Bengee and Leo may have participated in Web Mondays in Germany

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q+

14:39:29 [Karen]

...nice to start a gathering in China

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ack karen

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ack kidehen

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Kingsley: I have a to do item

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...SW Web gatherings; what's happening in Banff?

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...project is part of SWEO

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...should we merge that?

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Susie: what is date?

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Kingsley: 5:30-7:00pm before main event on Wed.,

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9 May

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+[IBMCambridge]

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-wing

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zakim, IBMCambridge is wing

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+wing; got it

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Susie: encourage people to mention SWEO affiliation

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Kingsley: we should see good exposure

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...lots of Europeans attending; introduce them to North American participants

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Susie: we will skip SWEO call next week

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...encourage people to attend in Banff if you are there

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Kingsley: Info-gathering form is done

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...should I put out a demo version?

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Ivan: I would wait for Leo for that

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Action: Kingsley to review form with Leo

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q+

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ack karen

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Karen: Is there an opportunity to meet anyone at SW Tech conference to talk about SWEO group in Bay area

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Susie: Monday evening may be an open time

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...not sure what we could do

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zakim, mute me

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wing should now be muted

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Karen: suggests possible meeting with company or university contacts about doing gatherings similar to MIT

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Susie: SB Forum already does this in Bay area

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...I can send you invite; Jeff Pollack heads those

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...more commercially focused

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Kingsley: we don't do too much commercial work on East Coast;

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I'd like to get some Venture Capitalists to attend

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...on West Coast they talk about how to commercialize

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...there is an imbalance that we should address

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Susie: maybe we do a panel at one of next gatherings with VCs

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...let's talk in Banff next week

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about outreach to VC community

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Kingsley: I expect some VCs and Angels to attend next time

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...I will extend official invite

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Susie: moves to adjourn

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...next week's call is cancelled

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bye

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-wing

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- +1.317.435.aaaa

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- +1.603.897.aacc

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-kjetilk

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-Kingsley

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-Karen

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-PaulaP

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-martind

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-ivan

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-??P11

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SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were wing, +1.317.435.aaaa, PaulaP, Karen, kjetilk, martind, ivan, +1.603.897.aacc, Kingsley

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zakim, bye

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-sweo-minutes.html ivan

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