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13:56:28 <shadi> zakim, this will be ERT
13:56:28 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
13:56:37 <shadi> meeting: ERT WG
13:56:49 <shadi> chair: Shadi
13:56:53 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2007May/0002.html
13:57:04 <shadi> agenda+ Pointer Methods in RDF
13:57:11 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Guide
13:57:22 <shadi> agenda+ EARL 1.0 Schema comments
13:57:32 <shadi> agenda+ HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments
13:58:10 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has now started
13:58:12 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:00:22 <Zakim> +Klaus/Johannes/Thomas
14:00:45 <JohannesK> zakim, klaus is really JohannesK
14:00:45 <Zakim> +JohannesK; got it
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14:03:20 <Zakim> +??P5
14:03:37 <shadi> agenda+ Update from TSD TF
14:03:52 <carlosV> zakim, p5 is really carlosV
14:03:52 <Zakim> sorry, carlosV, I do not recognize a party named 'p5'
14:03:54 <shadi> zakim, ??p5 is really CarlosV
14:03:54 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
14:05:33 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
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14:06:04 <shadi> agenda?
14:06:06 <JohannesK> re
14:07:05 <shadi> scribe: CarlosI
14:07:11 <shadi> scribenick: CarlosI
14:07:20 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:07:20 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Pointer Methods in RDF" taken up [from shadi]
14:08:21 <CarlosI> SAZ: CI, any news about it?
14:08:29 <CarlosI> CI: work in progress
14:08:51 <CarlosI> CI: hopefully something avalaible for the next week
14:09:12 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:09:12 <Zakim> agendum 2. "EARL 1.0 Guide" taken up [from shadi]
14:09:45 <CarlosI> SAZ: CV, news about Guide?
14:10:07 <CarlosI> CV: quite busy with BenToWeb
14:11:04 <CarlosI> CV: some issues raised with the content class
14:11:39 <CarlosI> hopefully an updated version for the 11th
14:13:02 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 5
14:13:02 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Update from TSD TF" taken up [from shadi]
14:14:23 <CarlosI> SAZ: issue from TSD TF about test cases metadata expressed as XML instead of RDF
14:15:43 <CarlosI> SAZ: the need of a TCDL is something this WG has discussed before
14:16:58 <CarlosI> SAZ: CV, could this be something you can participate after EARL (and probably BTW) work?
14:17:33 <CarlosI> CV: not clear know
14:19:04 <CarlosI> CI: it's something we already need but must come after EARL
14:19:35 <CarlosI> CI: not sure about CTIC interest
14:20:22 <CarlosI> SAZ: at this stage there is no critical mass
14:20:28 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:20:28 <Zakim> agendum 3. "EARL 1.0 Schema comments" taken up [from shadi]
14:22:04 <CarlosI> SAZ: not been here next week and maybe the need after
14:22:51 <CarlosI> SAZ: would like to have meeting for the rest of the group anyway with JK as temporal chair
14:23:09 <CarlosI> no objections
14:23:57 <CarlosI> ACTION: CV to send new comments about EARL schema
14:24:19 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/EARL10/issues
14:25:23 <CarlosI> SAZ: several are just editorial
14:27:24 <CarlosI> SAZ: let's have a light walk through
14:32:23 <CarlosI> quick review discussion...
14:40:54 <shadi> RESOLUTION: mark the following issues as editorial: 1-3; 5-6; 15-18; 24-28;
14:42:39 <CarlosI> SAZ: the way we're using OWL (mixing RDF and OWL) is not valid
14:43:35 <CarlosI> SAZ: two options OWL or RDF
14:44:10 <CarlosI> SAZ: RDF seems more sensible know
14:45:38 <CarlosI> SAZ: min cardinalities are restrictions but not rules restrictions (the use we do know), they are more ontological restrictions
14:47:12 <CarlosI> SAZ: any further comment should be send to the list ASAP
14:48:42 <CarlosI> JK: if we decide to create an XML schema, are still consuming tools required to be able to understand RDF?
14:49:13 <CarlosI> SAZ: know we are asuming RDF is the only normative representation
14:49:52 <CarlosI> SAZ: EARL is a simple vocabulary and it may have a one to one mapping with XML
14:50:01 <CarlosI> JK: it's not one to one
14:51:26 <CarlosI> SAZ: would like to see pros and cons
14:51:36 <CarlosI> SAZ: something to discuss on the mailing list
14:52:03 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:52:03 <Zakim> agendum 4. "HTTP Vocabulary in RDF comments" taken up [from shadi]
14:53:38 <CarlosI> SAZ: JK, something to remark?
14:53:58 <CarlosI> JK: comments about inconsistence of the schema
14:54:31 <CarlosI> JK: there are no predefined response codes for extensions
14:55:41 <CarlosI> JK: why don't have literal values for some properties
14:57:22 <CarlosI> SAZ: HTTP in RDF is not in the REC track
14:58:21 <CarlosI> SAZ: something to discuss
14:58:25 <Zakim> -JohannesK
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14:58:29 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:58:31 <Zakim> -[CTIC]
14:58:40 <Zakim> -CarlosV
14:58:41 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()10:00AM has ended
14:58:43 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Klaus/Johannes/Thomas, JohannesK, CarlosV, [CTIC]
15:00:01 <shadi> zakim, bye
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15:00:07 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:00:13 <shadi> rrsagent, make minutes
15:00:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-er-minutes.html shadi
15:00:14 <shadi> rrsagent, make logs world
15:00:19 <shadi> rrsagent, bye
15:00:19 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-er-actions.rdf :
15:00:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: CV to send new comments about EARL schema [1]
15:00:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/05/02-er-irc#T14-23-57