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14:01:53 <r007a> zakim, dial ishida-home
14:01:53 <Zakim> sorry, r007a, I don't know what conference this is
14:01:59 <r007a> zakim, this will be i18n
14:01:59 <Zakim> ok, r007a, I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM already started
14:02:04 <r007a> zakim, dial ishida-home
14:02:04 <Zakim> I am sorry, r007a; I do not know a number for ishida-home
14:02:14 <DavidClarke> With you all in 2 mins
14:02:14 <r007a> zakim, dial richard-home
14:02:14 <Zakim> ok, r007a; the call is being made
14:02:15 <Zakim> +Richard
14:03:06 <r007a> hmm, no ring
14:03:16 <r007a> zakim, kill richard-home
14:03:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kill richard-home', r007a
14:03:18 <r007a> zakim, kill richard
14:03:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kill richard', r007a
14:03:23 <r007a> zakim, kill r12a
14:03:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kill r12a', r007a
14:03:31 <r007a> zakim, kill r007a
14:03:32 <Zakim> I don't understand 'kill r007a', r007a
14:03:38 <r007a> aaargh
14:03:41 <Zakim> -Richard
14:03:53 <r007a> zakim, dial richard-home
14:03:53 <Zakim> ok, r007a; the call is being made
14:03:54 <Zakim> +Richard
14:04:10 <r007a> zakim, who's here ?
14:04:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard
14:04:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see mick, RRSAgent, Zakim, r007a, fsasaki, DavidClarke
14:04:45 <Zakim> +??P14
14:04:50 <Zakim> + +44.797.368.aaaa
14:05:10 <r007a> zakim, who's here ?
14:05:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, ??P14, +44.797.368.aaaa
14:05:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see mick, RRSAgent, Zakim, r007a, fsasaki, DavidClarke
14:05:25 <r007a> Meeting: I18n Core telecon
14:05:25 <r007a> Chair: Richard Ishida
14:05:40 <r007a> Scribe: Michael
14:05:53 <Zakim> +Felix
14:05:58 <r007a> zakim, ??P14 is Andrew
14:05:58 <Zakim> +Andrew; got it
14:06:13 <r007a> zakim, +44 is David
14:06:13 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:06:25 <r007a> zakim, who's here ?
14:06:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Monaghan, Richard, Andrew, David, Felix
14:06:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see mick, RRSAgent, Zakim, r007a, fsasaki, DavidClarke
14:06:51 <r007a> Regrets: Tom, Vijay, Karunesh, Greg
14:07:49 <r007a> regrets+ Pasquale
14:08:09 <r007a> Topic: Agenda & actions review
14:09:20 <r007a> ACTION: Felix to prepare Unicode in XML .. WG Note for publication [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action07] PENDING
14:09:39 <r007a> ACTION: Francois to sent a mail to CSS about the CSS 2.1 issue related to Unicode references [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action09] PENDING
14:09:56 <r007a> ACTION: RI, make sure that it's clear we are talking about issue 79 and get the right uri [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action10] DONE
14:10:21 <r007a> ACTION: Richard to follow up on "SVG WG comments on the 06 Nov CSS21 WD - issue 6" topic [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-core-minutes.html#action08]  PENDING
14:10:46 <r007a> ACTION: Andrew, read comments for What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.en.php and seek resolutions and propose necessary edits [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING
14:11:30 <mick> David - redraft What is encoding, and why should I care.
14:11:35 <r007a> ACTION: David, redraft What is encoding, and why should I care? http://esw.w3.org/topic/geoEncoding for 1st May [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action02]
14:11:52 <r007a> PENDING
14:11:54 <mick> David has revised wiki and will fwd URL as /when updated.
14:12:13 <r007a> ACTION: Felix, send private email to XML SChema to discuss point 2 in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0030.html and look at creating a page describing the proposal later [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-core-minutes.html#action12] PENDING
14:12:26 <r007a> ACTION: RI, publish What should I consider wrt moving to UTF-8? http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-utf8-upgrade.html [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action11] PENDING
14:12:42 <r007a> ACTION: Richard, consider a F2F since it has been awhile. Before or at same time as plenary? [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-core-minutes.html#action13] PENDING
14:13:04 <r007a> Topic: Info Share
14:13:16 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/
14:13:27 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#minutes-documents
14:13:57 <mick> Felix restructured home page for ja layout site
14:15:25 <fsasaki> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/2007Apr/0003.html
14:15:36 <r007a> ACTION: All, provide feedback asap by email to Felix on Topic: Info Share
14:16:06 <r007a> ACTION: All, provide feedback asap by email to Felix before next Wed on http://www.w3.org/2007/02/japanese-layout/#objective and  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-japanese-layout-en/2007Apr/0003.html
14:16:54 <r007a> ITS doing reviews http://www.w3.org/International/its/reviews.html
14:20:06 <mick> RI - looking at W3C docs and URI specs. Should specify in terms of IRI.
14:20:41 <r007a> Topic: EMMA review comments
14:20:41 <r007a>     *
14:20:41 <r007a>       http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0704-emma/
14:20:41 <r007a>       Discuss. Ok to send?
14:24:53 <mick> emma -  encoding declaration. May not be an issue - can just fallback to default.
14:25:35 <mick> RI will edit comment #2 accordingly
14:26:07 <mick> Emma allow xml:lang to have a null value?
14:27:21 <mick> might depend on relationship to emma:lang
14:28:19 <r007a> ri change #3 to say: in xml 1.0 you can indicate absence of language information, how does EMMA allow for that in xml:lang and emma:lang?
14:28:54 <mick> Comment #4: diff/relationship between emma:lang and xml:lang?
14:29:48 <mick> Analogous to HTTP content-type & HTML head content?
14:31:59 <mick> Felix- EMMA can link modalities together ... audio/video signals .. have "interpretations"
14:34:12 <mick> David - example of En movie with Fr subtitles
14:36:17 <mick> RI: will change comment to "it's not clear how to us how emma:lang should be used..."
14:36:51 <mick> pls provide examples contrasting usage of xml:lang with emma:lang
14:37:01 <mick> Comment #5
14:37:11 <mick> multiple language separators
14:37:21 <fsasaki> s/together/together, using the emma:lang attribute information/
14:37:30 <mick> comma is the typical separator - should use same in EMMA.
14:37:40 <mick> Comment #6 - simple typo
14:37:49 <mick> Comment #7
14:38:48 <mick> URI definition should be normative. Agreed.
14:38:52 <mick> Comment #8
14:39:50 <mick> XML 1.0 does not mention IRIs
14:40:31 <mick> EMMA should adopt XQuery URI defn
14:41:39 <mick> XML WG wrking on slightly diff defn for resource identifiers - could complicate things
14:42:07 <mick> Submit comment as is.
14:43:04 <mick> Topic: SVG WG comments
14:43:31 <mick> RI: very complex. Needs more time, reading previous threads, get MD involved.
14:43:45 <mick> Topic: CSS out of range unicode escapes
14:44:14 <Zakim> -Andrew
14:45:00 <Zakim> +??P0
14:45:32 <mick> David: should treat out of range characters as errors
14:46:23 <mick> RI - asks David to mail public list w proposal on what to say to CSS
14:47:09 <r007a> ACTION: David, David to mail public list w proposal on what to say to CSS wrt http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2007Apr/0045.html
14:47:55 <mick> End of Agenda.
14:49:14 <mick> Next week's mtg. RI traveling ; may not have much time to write agenda etc. 
14:49:27 <mick> short/informal  mtg next week.
14:49:40 <Zakim> -Michael_Monaghan
14:49:42 <Zakim> -??P0
14:49:44 <Zakim> -Felix
14:49:47 <Zakim> -David
14:49:55 <Zakim> -Richard
14:49:56 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
14:49:57 <Zakim> Attendees were Michael_Monaghan, Richard, +44.797.368.aaaa, Felix, Andrew, David
14:50:02 <r007a> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:50:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/05/01-core-minutes.html r007a
14:50:16 <r007a> rrsagent, make minutes public
14:50:16 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', r007a.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:50:26 <r007a> hmm
14:50:44 <r007a> thanks felix
15:27:04 <r007a> zakim, bye
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