Steven: What about
14:35:39 ... what is the rdf equivalent?
14:35:57 ... if we say it is per document, then I can't process that generically
14:36:16 Shane: THat should be @property
14:36:21 s/TH/Th/
14:36:38 Mark: No, because you need a predicate of type rdf:type
14:37:04 ... because rss:description is not a predicate
14:37:10 ... it is the object of a statement
14:39:04 I thought this was more correct:
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XFrames
14:39:04 An XML application for composing
14:39:04 documents together
14:39:12 Mark: What I am wary of
14:39:19 ... if I have an item of type X
14:39:52 ... will there be a situation where that item doesn't take on *all* the properties of an X
14:40:03 ... in Raman's original example that was the case for instance
14:40:14 ... so is rdf:type correct here?
14:40:51 ... I'm scared we might have to invent a new attribute in a couple of years
14:41:16 Rich: Raman added role to a handler so he could tell what the handler was supposed to do
14:42:20 Mark: So you are saying this functionality can be got in a different way
14:42:25 s/way/way?/
14:42:38 Shane: At the AOL FtF we talked about this
14:42:52 ... and discussed the relationship between access/role and handlers
14:43:06 ... for handling with navbars and so on
14:43:18 ... Wasn't Raman there? Think so.
14:43:43 ... Anyway, I think the concept of role has evolved since then
14:44:08 Mark: Sure,we said let's use QNames to extend it, and let you use it with rdf
14:44:14 s/,/, /
14:44:36 ... the problems are similar to those of @class
14:44:41 \... class is left very vague
14:44:56 ... should we leave role vague, or define it hard-and-fast
14:47:43 Shane: Surely the fact that is rdf:type is only relevant in the presence of other context?
14:49:14 Rich: role has multi-values
14:49:21 ... doesn't that solve it?
14:56:25 My brain hurts.
14:56:48 [Fast discussion about what rdf;type implies]
14:56:55 s/;/:/
14:57:43 Mark: I mean that role and type are different, related but not equivalent
14:58:08 ... I have a date of birth, doesn't mean I am of type date of birth
14:59:12 Steven: That's different
14:59:40 ... if I have an element of role Mark Birbeck, then I would expect it to contain an element of role DoB
14:59:59 Mark: Don't confuse types with predicates
15:00:49 Steven: Top of hour; I think we have to just try to code up some examples and see what breaks
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15:00:54 This is a draft resource for adding semantic
15:00:54 annotations and information to Web resources. Knowing what the types of
15:00:54 content are in a Web page allows for better customized renderings. Including
15:00:54 want to allow information hiding, or rendering common types of content in a
15:00:54 consistent way - it makes the Web easer to use and more accessibility. You
15:00:56 can also use this for device independence so that content is better formatted
15:00:58 to fit on the device.
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15:01:01 ... as a way of concluding something
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15:01:12 You have to give each content type a title and
15:01:14 description sorry folks (just be glad I did not put a min length on the
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15:02:05 -ShaneM
15:02:13 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/GUI/
15:02:19 I agree with Steven for concrete examples
15:02:44 ADJOURN
15:02:46 -Steven
15:02:48 -Mark_Birbeck
15:02:54 -yamx
15:02:56 Action: Steven to create some role use cases
15:03:04 -alessio
15:03:23 As I said, the problem is not in the mark-up, but in the triples generated, so it's not really a case of finding sample mark-up.
15:03:54 -Rich
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15:04:00 Attendees were Steven, ShaneM, alessio, yamx, Rich, Mark_Birbeck
15:04:10 rrsagent, make minutes
15:04:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/25-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
15:05:09 bye all :)
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