IRC log of mwts on 2007-04-24

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Zakim, this will be TS
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Meeting: MWI Test Suites Working Group teleconf
14:37:26 [Zakim]
ok, dom; I see MWI_TSWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 23 minutes
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Apr/0013.html
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Chair: Dom
14:54:39 [Carmelo]
Hello everyone
14:55:03 [wilhelm]
Hello..(c:
14:55:41 [Carmelo]
Nice to meet you Wilhelm
14:55:44 [Carmelo]
and welcome
14:56:05 [wilhelm]
Thank you.
14:56:20 [Carmelo]
why is that?
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I'm logging. I don't understand 'log off', dom. Try /msg RRSAgent help
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15:02:14 [Carmelo]
Carmelo will take minutes today.\
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ScribeNick: Carmelo
15:02:30 [Zakim]
+??P32
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Zakim, ??P32 is Dmitri
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+Dmitri; got it
15:03:47 [Zakim]
+Anne_van_Kesteren
15:04:16 [Zakim]
+ +1.408.873.aaaa - is perhaps Allen
15:04:17 [dom]
Zakim, Anne_van_Kesteren is really Wilhelm
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+Wilhelm; got it
15:04:27 [dom]
Zakim, aaaa is Allen
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sorry, dom, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
15:05:02 [Carmelo]
Conference started at 11:04
15:05:32 [Carmelo]
Wilhelm was introduced himself
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and explained his work at Opera
15:06:06 [Carmelo]
He does have some experience on Mobile device testing and hope to contribute to group
15:06:57 [Carmelo]
Wilhelm will working as a replacement for Till.
15:07:25 [Carmelo]
Till will be leaving the Group.
15:07:53 [Carmelo]
Any question from Wilhelm for the Group
15:08:09 [Carmelo]
None at this time. He been reading the mail logs
15:08:37 [Carmelo]
Dom -- Any additions to agenda?
15:08:45 [dom]
Topic: Conformance Test suites
15:08:46 [Carmelo]
There were no additions
15:09:20 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to look at implementing an id for test session [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/13-mwts-minutes.html#action05] [PENDING]
15:09:31 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to look at implementing Till's suggestions for the DOM Test Suites [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [DONE]
15:10:49 [dom]
-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mwts/2007Apr/0012.html Automation of DOM Test suite
15:11:37 [Carmelo]
Carmelo asked as to when the results are recorded when running the suite
15:12:05 [Carmelo]
Results are recorded as the tests are run.
15:12:36 [Carmelo]
Dom - Automation works on Firefox but not on Opera just yet.
15:12:44 [Carmelo]
Till will have a look into that.
15:13:27 [Carmelo]
ACTION: Till to do extra reseach on autmatic execution using Opera
15:13:57 [Zakim]
-dom
15:14:08 [Carmelo]
ok waiting on DOM
15:14:20 [Zakim]
+dom
15:15:46 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to look at integrating the WICD test suite into the harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action10] [PENDING]
15:16:15 [dom]
ACTION: Till to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on a mobile device [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [DONE]
15:16:45 [Carmelo]
Everything seems to have run fine using the Mobile device
15:17:18 [Carmelo]
Till -- > made a few comments regarding the test suite itself.
15:18:19 [Carmelo]
ACTION : Till to draft a first message to regarding SVG test suite
15:18:50 [Carmelo]
ACTION: carmelo - To contact SVG Working group with Till's comments.
15:19:26 [dom]
ACTION: Carmelo to try the SVG Tiny test suite in the harness on a mobile device [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/10-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
15:20:11 [Carmelo]
Dom -- >Is Opera using teh SVG suite?
15:20:29 [Carmelo]
Till --> Yes very much so
15:20:54 [dom]
ACTION: Carmelo to contact the SVG Working Group to let them know about the test harness including SVG Tiny [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action11] [DONE]
15:20:54 [Carmelo]
Till - To post a message regarding Opera's usage of SVG Tiny suite.
15:21:50 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to check whether we're allowed to put the WCSS Test suite in the mobile test harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action06] [PENDING]
15:21:50 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to explore using XHTML MP as part of the harness [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/27-mwts-minutes.html#action09] [PENDING]
15:24:20 [Carmelo]
Do we need to do anything specific regarding to testfest (an event from OMA)
15:24:47 [Carmelo]
Allen - Asked about moving harness to a more prominent place in W3C Site
15:25:31 [dom]
ACTION: Allen to see from where the harness should be linked
15:27:02 [Carmelo]
What about using main page advertised for the harness
15:27:28 [Carmelo]
Dom -- This is usually done for public documents.
15:29:06 [Carmelo]
Maybe we are not ready for that kind of attention just yet
15:29:20 [Carmelo]
Allen - Not a strong opinion either way just yet.
15:30:32 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to check with SVG and CSS WG whether they want more visibility of their test suites through the harness
15:31:13 [dom]
Topic: Community-based Test suite
15:31:29 [dom]
ACTION: Dom to send responses to respondents of survey [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action07] [DONE]
15:31:53 [dom]
ACTION: Carmelo to update the test submissions document based on Dom's comments and put on the W3C site [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/17-mwts-minutes.html#action08] [DONE]
15:32:22 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/Tests/Open/submission.html [DRAFT] Guidelines for the Mobile Web Test Suites Group (MWTS) Tests Submissions
15:32:39 [dom]
Carmelo: based on a document for XML Query
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... [summarizes content of the document]
15:34:31 [dom]
... positive test: test with well-formed correct content
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... negative test: test with content that should trigger an error of sort
15:36:56 [dom]
... behavioral test: test that highlights a specific behavior of a browser
15:39:56 [dom]
Dom: the point on not using company names on so on should probably apply to all the content, not only function names
15:54:59 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/11/mwbp-tests/index.xhtml MWBP Tests cases on encoding
15:55:13 [dom]
-> http://www.w3.org/2006/09/mobile-tests/index.xhtml more test cases
15:58:00 [Zakim]
-Carmelo
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-dom
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-Dmitri
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-Jenise
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-Allen
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-Till
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-Wilhelm
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MWI_TSWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Jenise, Carmelo, dom, Till, Dmitri, +1.408.873.aaaa, Wilhelm
15:58:12 [dom]
Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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