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<marc> agendum+ Revisit list of action items from the face-to-face meeting
<marc> agendum+ Future of the Emotion Incubator group
<marc> agendum+ Publications
<marc> agendum+ Next meetings
<Paolo_BaggiaEnric> zalim, who is here?
<marc> please eveyone get on the phone! :-)
<Jianhua> Sorry I cannot find the phone number. Can someone tell me?
<marc> The phone number is: +1-617-761-6200,+33.4.89.06.34.99or+44.117.370.6152.
<Jianhua> thanks
<marc> so we need a Scribe to replace Ian
<marc> any volunteers?
id do it
<marc> so following Felix' suggestion we should use the IRC more
<marc> next item
<marc> consolidated use case requirements document is here: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/wiki/UseCasesRequirements
<marc> I have also uploaded the slides from the f2f
<marc> Interesting bit: work on content
<marc> Jean-Claude, Christian and Jianhua to add links to example for
<marc> each point in the requirements document: link to a use case example
<marc> where this feature is required, by 27 April
<marc> Jianhua, you intend to link to websites?
<marc> I thought the link was going to be mentioning the number of the use case where the requirements are needed
<marc> both kinds of links are very welcome
Jianhua: the Action is under way and will be done in time.
<Jianhua> I will put some links to the website, which contains some application of user case 3
<marc> volunteers to discuss existing ML in view of our requirements
<marc> document by 4 June
<scribe> Scribe: Felix Burkhardt
<scribe> ScribeNick: Felix
<Jianhua> some description will also be made.
<marc> I think there was a list in the mintues of the f2f
<kkarpou> the minutes are at: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/emotion/minutes-2007-03-26.html
<marc> Felix to formulate a number of examples for some types of
<marc> emotion markup before the next phone meeting
<marc> this will be postponed until the next phone meeting
<marc> Tanja Bänziger will be able to join the Paris meeting
<marc> She suggests we have a good justification for our choice of emotion descriptions,
<marc> ... no need to be complete.
<marc> Anything else following the f2f?
<marc> next item
Paolo: three options:
... first if gorup wants to continue
second: tcontinue as part of
aonother group and include the charter
... might be the MMI group
... and contacted w3c lead Ashimora and the Char of the
MMI
... the chair is happy to think about that but needs a call
with Marc
<Paolo_BaggiaEnric> Kazuyuki Ashimura
3. no firther activity
<marc> I have phoned Steve Bratt on Friday
4th option: continue for one year as new incubator group
<marc> My feeling is that the 4th option is most promising; it would give us time to become more concrete before seeking strong industry support.
Paolo: important fpr decision: what outcome do we want for industry?
marc: outcome of second year
would be draft spec.
... a way to make it conrete and less abstract
<marc> The 4th option means to "re-charter" as a "new" Incubator group
marc: 4th option: recharter as new incubator group whish has slightly different charter
Felix: thinks continue as incubator grou makes sense cause topic is quite innovative
<marc> Can people report on attempts to contact industrial W3C members?
Felix: but would like to phone Marc with MMI chair in parallel to consider option to be subgroup of MMI
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: who from industry to contact?
marc: contact people on informal
basis is most promising
... to get impression who is actually prrpared to work on the
topic.
Jianhua: can ask tomorrow in SSML
meeting
... there re many paople from industry and spread the
word.
... will mention that states of discussion is how to continue
work.
<marc> I looked at MMI charter
<marc> ... and it would fit to add Emotion ML
<marc> ... from my point of view
<Jianhua> this is also a good way
<marc> ... it would need a modification of the MMI Charter
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: can organize meeting between marc and MMI chair
marc: has time second half of may
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: think to take more time for another year is good idea.
enlongen...
marc: other opinions?
RobClarck: 4th option good idea
also to share ideas with other people
... we just delay the other options for a year.
cpelacha: good idea to have more time to make suggestions to industry.
kkarpou: thinks at the moment we're closer to research and another year would halp clarification.
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: thinks a questionnaire would be good about that matter.
Actio
<marc> So everyone here seems to agree that the fourth option is promising; let's see what the rest of the group thinks about it.
CTION: marc to set up questionnaire on how to proceed the work (4 options) by tomorrow
<scribe> ACTION: marc to set up questionnaire on how to proceed the work (4 options) by tomorrow [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-emotion-minutes.html#action01]
<Jianhua> great!
<scribe> ACTION: Paolo_BaggiaEnric and marc to set up phone meeting with MMI Chair in the early moring by second half of may [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-emotion-minutes.html#action02]
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: MMI chair wil also invite marc to meeting in June in Treviso.
<marc> next item
<marc> There was a paper submitted to ACII
<marc> in the pipeline: a section for the HUMAINE Handbook
orinigal idea was to report on EARL
scribe: but now it's be better to write on EmotionXG work
<marc> the "real" deadline: end of May
scribe: deadline is end of may
<scribe> .. finished version is than needed
<Jianhua> I would like to
Yes, me ,too.
<marc> Question was: Who wants to be a co-author?
marc and Hannes and Myriam Lamolle already are authors.
marc: discussion continues offline.
<marc> next item
<Jianhua> it's ok for me
<marc> only option I see for a phone meeting before the f2f is 21 May
<kkarpou> date is OK with me
<marc> any constraints about the time?
Paolo_BaggiaEnric date ok.
<marc> so same time as todaY?
<Jianhua> wonderful
cpelacha: date ok, time as today
<marc> How about hte f2f?
<marc> Who would be able to come?
next meeting 21st may 11 UTC
<marc> 7 June, Paris
<marc> (f2f)
<marc> Catherine: Jean-Claude will be there
<kkarpou> I will have to check with the dates of the plenary
I have to be in Berlin on the 7th at 4 pm ;-(
marc: if not enough people are there the f2f might be held at the ACI conference in Lisbon in sep.
Paolo_BaggiaEnric: have to check but probably can come to Paris.
<scribe> ACTION: marc to set up second questionnaire whether people come to Paris f2f by tomorrow [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-emotion-minutes.html#action03]
<marc> Any other issues for today?
marc hopefully more discussion on content on the next phone meeting
<Jianhua> bye
marc1s
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