14:33:20 RRSAgent has joined #ws-desc 14:33:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc 14:33:25 RRSAgent, set log world 14:33:33 Zakim has joined #ws-desc 14:33:41 Meeting: WS Description WG telcon 14:33:44 Chair: Jonathan 14:33:56 Zakim, list conferences 14:33:56 I see Team_(tracker)14:28Z, W3C_(OPEN)9:00AM, MWI_BPWG()10:00AM, UW_UWA()10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(F2F)8:30AM, Math_IG()10:00AM active 14:33:58 also scheduled at this time are VB_VBWG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM 14:34:20 zakim, this will be WS_Desc 14:34:20 ok, Jonathan; I see WS_DescWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 26 minutes 14:51:32 TonyR has joined #ws-desc 14:52:04 zakim, where am i? 14:52:04 I don't understand your question, TonyR. 14:52:24 zakim, which conference is this? 14:52:24 this will be WS_DescWG()11:00AM conference code 97394, TonyR 14:59:20 JacekK has joined #ws-desc 15:00:37 WS_DescWG()11:00AM has now started 15:00:44 +Jonathan_Marsh 15:01:23 +Charlton_Barreto 15:01:40 +alewis 15:03:04 +Gilbert_Pilz 15:03:12 +??P31 15:03:23 zakim, ??p31 is me 15:03:23 +TonyR; got it 15:04:56 +??P34 15:05:11 zakim, ??P34 is Ram 15:05:11 +Ram; got it 15:05:43 plh has joined #ws-desc 15:05:48 +Plh 15:05:55 + +1.617.475.aaaa 15:06:04 zakim, aaaa may be me 15:06:04 +JacekK?; got it 15:06:25 +Arthur_Ryman 15:06:29 cgi-irc has joined #ws-desc 15:07:08 Arthur has joined #ws-desc 15:08:34 scribe: Arthur 15:08:51 chair: Jonathan 15:09:18 meeting: Web Service Description Working Group 15:09:58 cgi-irc has joined #ws-desc 15:11:23 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Apr/0001.html 15:11:29 +Canon 15:12:06 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4381 15:16:21 ACTION: Jonathan to add Bugzilla links to the Home Page, including ed action queries. 15:19:55 topic: Last Call Status 15:20:08 Jonathan: CR closes April 15 15:20:30 Jonathan: estimate 3 weeks to close CR issues 15:21:00 Jonathan: also need to demonstrate utility of HTTP binding, e.g. Flickr - need volunteers 15:21:42 Arthur: I'll try to describe Bugzilla 15:25:55 Jonathan: Flickr has hard to describe authenication 15:26:11 Jonathan: need a few more, e.g. Google, Amazon 15:27:03 Some APIs to choose from: http://www.programmableweb.com/apilist 15:28:09 topic: WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions 15:28:31 ACTION: Charlton to look at resolution of WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions 15:29:15 topic: Namespace documents have bad links to the specs 15:29:40 Jonathan: Philippe has an action to handle this 15:29:55 topic: Editor's versions of the schemas are invalid 15:30:52 monica has joined #ws-desc 15:30:57 Jonathan: define a prefix to workaround the existence of ENTITIES in the ed copies 15:32:17 only on irc - mtg conflicts 15:34:24 :>) 15:34:38 Phillipe: let's not change now 15:34:45 Jonathan: Drop it 15:35:08 topic: Issue 4423: "Family" is too informal 15:35:45 Jonathan: JJM thinks "document family" is too informal 15:36:03 Jonathan: editorial - use Suite instead of Family 15:37:04 Tony: I like the informality of "family" 15:37:58 cgi-irc has joined #ws-desc 15:38:59 +??P4 15:41:35 Jonathan: propose to strike "family" - any objections? 15:41:55 Resolved 15:42:37 ACTION: Phillipe to implement resolution 15:43:04 Allen has joined #ws-desc 15:43:43 topic: Issue 4424: Swap sections 1.2 and 1.3 15:46:57 Jonathan: Objections? 15:47:06 RESOLVED 15:47:27 ACTION: Phillipe [DONE] 15:47:45 s/Phillipe/Philippe/ 15:47:50 s/Phillipe/Philippe/g 15:48:32 topic: Issue 4425: Interaction between IRI advice and HTTP binding 15:53:33 Philippe: propose to close with no action because this is already in Part 1 15:54:09 Jonathan: objections? 15:54:21 RESOLVED 15:55:09 topic: Issue 4426: Disambiguate uses of curly brackets 15:55:39 Jonathan: propose to close with no action - objections? 15:55:48 RESOLVED 15:55:52 +monica 15:56:07 topic: Issue 4427: Multiple namespace clarification 15:58:46 "corresponds to a collection with" -> "also contains" 16:01:27 -Gilbert_Pilz 16:01:30 ACTION: Philippe to propose resolution 16:04:11 Use the keyword needsReview when adding proposals to Bugzilla comments 16:04:38 topic: Issue 4428: Ambiguous "element" 16:04:58 Jonathan: see proposal in comment of bug - objections? 16:05:08 RESOLVED 16:05:25 topic: Issue 4429: Redundancy in 2.7.1 16:17:35 youenn has joined #ws-desc 16:18:08 Jonathan: looks like a duplicate of bug 4381 - defer discussion till then 16:18:32 topic: Issue 4430: Endpoint address ? and # note 16:19:11 ACTION: Philippe to investigate 16:19:29 topic: Issue 4431: Definition of equivalent value 16:21:16 ACTION: Assign to Arthur 16:21:48 topic: Issue 4432: Equivalence based on lexical equivalence or value 16:21:48 equivale... 16:23:21 youenn_ has joined #ws-desc 16:25:52 Resolution: strike word "exact" and use boolean to illustrate the value space equivalence concept 16:26:18 ACTION: Philippe to implement 16:26:21 -Canon 16:26:52 topic: Issue 4433: Dangling "below" 16:30:30 Propose: Replace "According to the constraints given below" with "Note that" 16:30:53 RESOLVED 16:31:02 ACTION: Philippe to fix 16:31:51 -Ram 16:31:52 -alewis 16:31:54 -monica 16:31:55 -Arthur_Ryman 16:31:56 -Plh 16:31:57 -JacekK? 16:31:59 -Jonathan_Marsh 16:31:59 TonyR has left #ws-desc 16:32:00 -??P4 16:32:01 -TonyR 16:32:03 charltonb has joined #ws-desc 16:32:42 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:32:42 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan 16:33:22 rrsagent, set log world 16:33:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 16:33:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan 16:34:02 Charlton, I added you back 16:34:22 I don't think it made into the last call version 16:34:28 but it's in the editorial 16:35:32 hum, I don't see it in the editorial version... I need to recheck this 16:35:45 ah, it's in my copy 16:35:49 I didn't do the cvs commit 16:36:56 disconnecting the lone participant, Charlton_Barreto, in WS_DescWG()11:00AM 16:37:01 WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended 16:37:02 Attendees were Jonathan_Marsh, Charlton_Barreto, alewis, Gilbert_Pilz, TonyR, Ram, Plh, +1.617.475.aaaa, JacekK?, Arthur_Ryman, Canon, monica 16:37:08 yep, it's there for sure 16:37:33 the editorial copy didn't get regenerated since March 8 16:37:54 I should update those at some point 17:16:45 Zakim has left #ws-desc 17:18:28 rrsagent, bye 17:18:28 I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-actions.rdf : 17:18:28 ACTION: Jonathan to add Bugzilla links to the Home Page, including ed action queries. [1] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-16-21 17:18:28 ACTION: Charlton to look at resolution of WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions [2] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-28-31 17:18:28 ACTION: Phillipe to implement resolution [3] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-42-37 17:18:28 ACTION: Phillipe [DONE] [4] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-47-27 17:18:28 ACTION: Philippe to propose resolution [5] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-01-30 17:18:28 ACTION: Philippe to investigate [6] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-19-11 17:18:28 ACTION: Assign to Arthur [7] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-21-16 17:18:28 ACTION: Philippe to implement [8] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-26-18 17:18:28 ACTION: Philippe to fix [9] 17:18:28 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-31-02