IRC log of ws-desc on 2007-04-12

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14:33:25 [Jonathan]
RRSAgent, set log world
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Meeting: WS Description WG telcon
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Chair: Jonathan
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Zakim, list conferences
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I see Team_(tracker)14:28Z, W3C_(OPEN)9:00AM, MWI_BPWG()10:00AM, UW_UWA()10:00AM, WAI_PFWG(F2F)8:30AM, Math_IG()10:00AM active
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also scheduled at this time are VB_VBWG()10:00AM, Team_Global(review)8:00AM, WAI_Team()10:45AM
14:34:20 [Jonathan]
zakim, this will be WS_Desc
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ok, Jonathan; I see WS_DescWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 26 minutes
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zakim, where am i?
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I don't understand your question, TonyR.
14:52:24 [TonyR]
zakim, which conference is this?
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this will be WS_DescWG()11:00AM conference code 97394, TonyR
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WS_DescWG()11:00AM has now started
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+Jonathan_Marsh
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+Charlton_Barreto
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+alewis
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+Gilbert_Pilz
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+??P31
15:03:23 [TonyR]
zakim, ??p31 is me
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+TonyR; got it
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+??P34
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zakim, ??P34 is Ram
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+Ram; got it
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+Plh
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+ +1.617.475.aaaa
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zakim, aaaa may be me
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+JacekK?; got it
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+Arthur_Ryman
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scribe: Arthur
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chair: Jonathan
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meeting: Web Service Description Working Group
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-ws-desc/2007Apr/0001.html
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+Canon
15:12:06 [Jonathan]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=4381
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ACTION: Jonathan to add Bugzilla links to the Home Page, including ed action queries.
15:19:55 [Arthur]
topic: Last Call Status
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Jonathan: CR closes April 15
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Jonathan: estimate 3 weeks to close CR issues
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Jonathan: also need to demonstrate utility of HTTP binding, e.g. Flickr - need volunteers
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Arthur: I'll try to describe Bugzilla
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Jonathan: Flickr has hard to describe authenication
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Jonathan: need a few more, e.g. Google, Amazon
15:27:03 [Jonathan]
Some APIs to choose from: http://www.programmableweb.com/apilist
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topic: WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions
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ACTION: Charlton to look at resolution of WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions
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topic: Namespace documents have bad links to the specs
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Jonathan: Philippe has an action to handle this
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topic: Editor's versions of the schemas are invalid
15:30:52 [monica]
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Jonathan: define a prefix to workaround the existence of ENTITIES in the ed copies
15:32:17 [monica]
only on irc - mtg conflicts
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:>)
15:34:38 [Arthur]
Phillipe: let's not change now
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Jonathan: Drop it
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topic: Issue 4423: "Family" is too informal
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Jonathan: JJM thinks "document family" is too informal
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Jonathan: editorial - use Suite instead of Family
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Tony: I like the informality of "family"
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+??P4
15:41:35 [Arthur]
Jonathan: propose to strike "family" - any objections?
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Resolved
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ACTION: Phillipe to implement resolution
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topic: Issue 4424: Swap sections 1.2 and 1.3
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Jonathan: Objections?
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RESOLVED
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ACTION: Phillipe [DONE]
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s/Phillipe/Philippe/
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s/Phillipe/Philippe/g
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topic: Issue 4425: Interaction between IRI advice and HTTP binding
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Philippe: propose to close with no action because this is already in Part 1
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Jonathan: objections?
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RESOLVED
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topic: Issue 4426: Disambiguate uses of curly brackets
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Jonathan: propose to close with no action - objections?
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RESOLVED
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+monica
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topic: Issue 4427: Multiple namespace clarification
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"corresponds to a collection with" -> "also contains"
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-Gilbert_Pilz
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ACTION: Philippe to propose resolution
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Use the keyword needsReview when adding proposals to Bugzilla comments
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topic: Issue 4428: Ambiguous "element"
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Jonathan: see proposal in comment of bug - objections?
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RESOLVED
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topic: Issue 4429: Redundancy in 2.7.1
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Jonathan: looks like a duplicate of bug 4381 - defer discussion till then
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topic: Issue 4430: Endpoint address ? and # note
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ACTION: Philippe to investigate
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topic: Issue 4431: Definition of equivalent value
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ACTION: Assign to Arthur
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topic: Issue 4432: Equivalence based on lexical equivalence or value
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equivale...
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Resolution: strike word "exact" and use boolean to illustrate the value space equivalence concept
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ACTION: Philippe to implement
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-Canon
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topic: Issue 4433: Dangling "below"
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Propose: Replace "According to the constraints given below" with "Note that"
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RESOLVED
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ACTION: Philippe to fix
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-Ram
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-alewis
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-monica
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-Arthur_Ryman
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-Plh
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-JacekK?
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-Jonathan_Marsh
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-??P4
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-TonyR
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
16:33:22 [Jonathan]
rrsagent, set log world
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-minutes.html Jonathan
16:34:02 [plh]
Charlton, I added you back
16:34:22 [plh]
I don't think it made into the last call version
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but it's in the editorial
16:35:32 [plh]
hum, I don't see it in the editorial version... I need to recheck this
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ah, it's in my copy
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I didn't do the cvs commit
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disconnecting the lone participant, Charlton_Barreto, in WS_DescWG()11:00AM
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WS_DescWG()11:00AM has ended
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Attendees were Jonathan_Marsh, Charlton_Barreto, alewis, Gilbert_Pilz, TonyR, Ram, Plh, +1.617.475.aaaa, JacekK?, Arthur_Ryman, Canon, monica
16:37:08 [plh]
yep, it's there for sure
16:37:33 [plh]
the editorial copy didn't get regenerated since March 8
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I should update those at some point
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Jonathan to add Bugzilla links to the Home Page, including ed action queries. [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-16-21
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ACTION: Charlton to look at resolution of WSDL 1.1 element identifiers resolutions [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-28-31
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ACTION: Phillipe to implement resolution [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-42-37
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ACTION: Phillipe [DONE] [4]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T15-47-27
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ACTION: Philippe to propose resolution [5]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-01-30
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ACTION: Philippe to investigate [6]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-19-11
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ACTION: Assign to Arthur [7]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-21-16
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ACTION: Philippe to implement [8]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-26-18
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ACTION: Philippe to fix [9]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/12-ws-desc-irc#T16-31-02