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13:10:51 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
13:10:56 <Steven> zakim, this will be html
13:10:56 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see HTML_WG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 50 minutes
13:11:09 <Steven> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Tleconference
13:11:12 <Steven> Chair: Steven
13:11:21 <Steven> s/Tle/Tele/
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13:53:19 <alessio> hi all
13:58:23 <Steven> hi
13:58:26 <Steven> just coming
14:00:23 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
14:00:23 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
14:00:26 <Zakim> HTML_WG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:28 <Zakim> +Steven
14:01:05 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Apr/0004
14:01:18 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Apr/0004
14:03:25 <Zakim> +McCarron
14:06:17 <Zakim> +MarkB
14:06:31 <markbirbeck> zakim, who is here
14:06:31 <Zakim> markbirbeck, you need to end that query with '?'
14:06:42 <Steven> Alessio? Are you joining us?
14:06:47 <markbirbeck> zakim, who is here?
14:06:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see Steven, McCarron, MarkB
14:06:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see alessio, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, markbirbeck
14:10:48 <Steven> zakim, coe?
14:10:48 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Steven.
14:10:52 <Steven> zakim, code?
14:10:52 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Steven
14:11:29 <Steven> Alessio?
14:12:19 <Steven> Topic: XHTML Basic 1.1
14:12:43 <Zakim> +??P21
14:13:46 <Steven> Mark: I propsoie Steven as the chair for this meeting
14:13:50 <Steven> Shane: Seconded
14:13:57 <Steven> zakim, ??P21 is yamx
14:13:57 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
14:14:22 <Steven> Steven: We have been asked to publicly reaffirm the CR decision for Basic 1.1
14:14:36 <Steven> ... any objections?
14:14:42 <Steven> [None]
14:14:50 <Zakim> +Melinda_Grant
14:15:00 <alessio> Sorry, Steven I'm only on IRC
14:15:01 <Steven> RESOLVED: We reaffirm our decision to go to CR with XHTML Basic 1.1
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14:17:53 <Steven> Yamx: About the test fest. It was held at the beginning of March in Helsinki
14:18:20 <Steven> ... there were  4 implementations
14:18:24 <Steven> ... and 3000 tests
14:18:41 <Steven> Steven: Will the results be published?
14:19:07 <Steven> Yamx: Not sure when, but they will be made available
14:20:14 <Steven> Topic: Recharter
14:21:38 <Steven> Steven: We still don't have all members joined yet, but there are dates in June for a fORMS fTf; DO WE WANT TO USE IT AT LEAST FOR AN EDITOR'S MEETING?
14:21:47 <Steven> sHANE: iN PRINCIPLE A GOOD IDEA. lET ME CHECK.
14:21:55 <Steven> sTEVEN: mARK AND i WILL BE THERE FOR THE fORMS MEETING
14:22:28 <melinda> s/fORMS fTf/forms ftf
14:22:36 <Steven> Topic: Issue tracking
14:22:44 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Apr/0003
14:23:19 <melinda> s/DO WE WANT TO USE IT AT LEAST FOR AN EDITOR'S MEETING/do we want to use it at least for an editor's meeting/
14:23:42 <Steven> Shane: I have implemented changes that ChrisL and IanJ requested
14:23:43 <melinda> s/sHANE/shane
14:24:30 <melinda> s/iN PRINCIPLE A GOOD IDEA. lET ME CHECK/In principle a good idea. Let me check/
14:24:51 <Steven> ... this was in response to a call I had with Ian and Chris
14:24:57 <melinda> s/sTEVEN/Steven
14:25:42 <Steven> ... we have many comments we haven't yet addressed
14:25:44 <melinda> s/mARK AND i WILL BE THERE FOR THE fORMS MEETING/Mark and I will be there for the Forms meeting/
14:26:11 <Steven> ... and I explained the issues around that
14:26:27 <Steven> ... we talked about handling issues after they are submitted
14:27:08 <Steven> ... they are submitted to www-html-editor, and then we filter and forward them to the issue handling
14:27:12 <Steven> ... system
14:29:00 <Steven> ... DoCs were also raised
14:29:15 <Steven> ... because there is no defined format in W3C
14:30:33 <Steven> ... I updated the format of our DoCs, with classes, counts, and user disposition
14:31:13 <Steven> ... to make it easier to skim a DoC
14:31:45 <Steven> ... and I added something to track substantive issues (vs editorial/no change etc)
14:33:19 <Steven> ... I have also added a help page
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14:33:56 <Steven> http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/xhtml2-issues/
14:34:18 <Steven> Steven: Excellent stuff Shane
14:34:32 <Steven> Shane: By the way, the next XHTML 1.* issue will be number 10,000!
14:36:31 <Steven> Topic: New drafts system
14:36:48 <Steven> Shane: We are now a public WG, and the editor's drafts need to be public
14:37:15 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/
14:37:28 <Steven> So I created a page that gets generated once a day
14:37:36 <Steven> s/S/... S/
14:37:49 <Steven> ... with all details of new drafts, diffs etc
14:38:08 <Steven> Melinda: So there is no such thing as a private version now?
14:38:16 <Steven> Shane: I agree I have concerns
14:38:31 <Steven> ... but it is the price to pay for being a public WG
14:39:21 <Zakim> +ShaneM
14:39:22 <Zakim> -McCarron
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14:42:14 <ShaneM>  http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts - note that this page does not work on IE right now
14:43:31 <alessio> ok
14:44:49 <Steven> [discussion of how public WGs will and should operate]
14:45:32 <ShaneM>  most recent drafts are at Drafts/shortname, btw
14:45:56 <Steven> Steven: Nice!
14:46:17 <Steven> Shane: And the main page is annotated with RDFa, and this will update the RSS feed
14:46:22 <Steven> Melinda: Cool!
14:48:51 <Steven> Topic: RDFa DRAFT
14:49:02 <Steven> Shane: Nothing to discuss this meeting. Just note that it is there
14:49:34 <Steven> Shane: Note that I have produced an HTML4.01+RDFa DTD as an exercise
14:49:48 <Steven> ... but that we are not chartered to produce such a thing
14:50:28 <Steven> ... is this useful, should it be part of the draft?
14:50:52 <Steven> Mark: Definitely useful, not sure if it shpould be part of the draft
14:51:13 <Steven> ... maybe we should put it somewhere else
14:51:22 <Steven> s/shp/sh/
14:51:36 <Steven> Shane: If we want to promote RDFa, it is essential
14:53:44 <ShaneM>  http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Drafts/Overview.xhtml?.html
14:53:47 <Steven> ... because it doesn't work in IE otherwise
14:53:59 <Steven> Steven: there is a trick, us a URL that ends with ".html"
14:58:54 <Steven> [tries, fails]
14:59:08 <Steven> Mark: Well, send it as HTML then; what do we lose?
14:59:32 <Steven> Shane: Firefox has a bug with respect to internal subsets
14:59:47 <Steven> ... we need a solution for the internet
15:00:09 <Steven> Mark: We need to put some time into this to find a solution
15:01:54 <Steven> Melinda: THis is just working round lack of IE support
15:01:58 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
15:02:37 <Steven> Mark: I think that we should produce XHTML and render to HTML
15:03:15 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add media type issue to next week's agenda
15:03:35 <Zakim> -Melinda_Grant
15:03:35 <Steven> ADJOURN
15:03:37 <Zakim> -ShaneM
15:03:38 <Zakim> -MarkB
15:03:40 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:03:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
15:03:41 <Zakim> -yamx
15:03:47 <Zakim> -Steven
15:03:49 <Zakim> HTML_WG()10:00AM has ended
15:03:50 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, McCarron, MarkB, yamx, Melinda_Grant, ShaneM
15:03:59 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
15:03:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
15:22:56 <alessio> bye all
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