IRC log of SWEO on 2007-04-11

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13:18:53 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-irc
13:19:01 [ivan]
rrsagent, set log public
13:19:07 [ivan]
zakim, this will be sweo
13:19:07 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 41 minutes
13:19:22 [ivan]
Meeting: SW EO IG Weekly Telco
13:19:26 [ivan]
Chair: Ivan
13:19:37 [ivan]
Regrets: Susie, Kjetil, Pasquale
13:22:17 [kjetilk]
I have to run in 3 mins
13:49:45 [patranja]
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13:58:49 [ivan]
zakim, dial ivan-617
13:58:49 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; the call is being made
13:58:51 [Zakim]
SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
13:58:52 [Zakim]
+Ivan
13:59:26 [Zakim]
+??P16
13:59:38 [ivan]
zakim, ??P16 is martin
13:59:38 [Zakim]
+martin; got it
14:00:23 [wing]
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14:00:31 [wing]
zakim, code?
14:00:35 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
14:01:11 [Zakim]
+Jeff_Schiffel
14:01:12 [Zakim]
+Kingsley_Idehen
14:01:16 [Zakim]
+[IBMCambridge]
14:01:26 [kidehen]
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14:01:35 [ivan]
zakim, IBMCambridge is wing, lee
14:01:35 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'IBMCambridge is wing, lee', ivan
14:01:38 [LeeF]
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14:01:39 [ivan]
zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
14:01:39 [Zakim]
+wing; got it
14:01:45 [ivan]
zakim, wing has lee
14:01:45 [Zakim]
+lee; got it
14:01:51 [LeeF]
zakim, lee is me
14:01:51 [Zakim]
sorry, LeeF, I do not recognize a party named 'lee'
14:02:05 [LeeF]
zakim, wing has wing, LeeF
14:02:05 [Zakim]
+wing, LeeF; got it
14:02:23 [Zakim]
+??P14
14:02:33 [Zakim]
+Orri_Erling
14:02:37 [bengee]
zakim, [??P14] is me
14:02:37 [Zakim]
sorry, bengee, I do not recognize a party named '[??P14]'
14:02:45 [bengee]
zakim, ??P14 is me
14:02:45 [Zakim]
+bengee; got it
14:05:07 [martind]
agenda + * Review action items - Ivan
14:05:07 [martind]
* Review action items - Ivan
14:05:07 [martind]
* Review action items - Ivan
14:05:07 [martind]
review action items - ivan
14:05:27 [martind]
agenda + update on the community projects - kjetil
14:07:11 [martind]
kingsley reported on the progress of community projects
14:07:12 [ivan]
action kingsley: connecting Karen, Ivan for xbrl
14:07:31 [martind]
kingsley provides how-to by this friday
14:07:51 [martind]
two major development
14:08:34 [martind]
...need to make the project more reflecting reality -- experiments with data integration, RDF creation, etc
14:09:04 [martind]
some early schemas already released
14:10:09 [Zakim]
+PaulaP
14:10:16 [martind]
addition from cornell uni... trying to develop benchmarks for rddf
14:11:15 [Frank]
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14:11:45 [martind]
ivan's Q: will there be some sort of write-up on the poster prepared?
14:11:54 [martind]
it looks there will be
14:12:35 [martind]
repository, mailing lists, etc. setup for another project
14:12:38 [kidehen]
bengee: links when you're ready :-)
14:12:59 [martind]
no report from Segala guys
14:13:08 [LeeF]
zakim, who's here?
14:13:08 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ivan, martin, Jeff_Schiffel, Kingsley_Idehen, wing, bengee, Orri_Erling, PaulaP (muted)
14:13:10 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Frank, LeeF, kidehen, wing, PaulaP, RRSAgent, Zakim, bengee, martind, ivan, kjetilk
14:13:13 [Zakim]
wing has wing, LeeF
14:13:14 [Zakim]
+Frank_Chum
14:14:19 [martind]
there was some discussion on the mailing list about a portal for info gathering... general approach has been "agreed"
14:15:51 [uldis]
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14:16:15 [martind]
proposals for portal content can/should (?) be put onto wiki?
14:16:36 [martind]
next item: survey progress
14:17:01 [martind]
karen is currently working on the survey; more details needed
14:17:04 [LeeF]
kidehen, which wiki page do you think is most appropriate?
14:17:19 [martind]
action: ivan to contact karen about the survey
14:17:45 [martind]
use case progress, ivan got a positive reaction from Siemens, good news
14:18:11 [Zakim]
+??P24
14:18:21 [Zakim]
-??P24
14:18:26 [martind]
frank sent some input re his use case to Susie, may be resend to the list/ivan?
14:18:44 [martind]
action: frank sends input to ivan for conversion
14:18:46 [Zakim]
+??P24
14:18:55 [uldis]
??P24 is uldis
14:19:21 [martind]
jeff has also provided some input, waiting for feedback from susie before conversion
14:19:56 [martind]
ivan sent request to vodafone -- still considering
14:21:06 [martind]
ivan prepared a few use case slides, which can be used by people when talking about their use cases
14:21:21 [Frank]
+q
14:21:27 [ivan]
ack Frank
14:21:56 [martind]
frank asks if there is any strategy in getting other energy sector companies on board
14:22:18 [martind]
ivan says this should happen at f2 in stavenger
14:22:49 [bengee]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas
14:23:14 [martind]
benjamin gives info on logos
14:24:43 [ivan]
zakim, mute bengee
14:24:43 [Zakim]
bengee should now be muted
14:24:52 [ivan]
zakim, unmute bengee
14:24:53 [Zakim]
bengee should no longer be muted
14:25:06 [kidehen]
we should reconnect
14:25:10 [kidehen]
maybe?
14:25:19 [ivan]
one at a time
14:25:27 [ivan]
because zakim may think the call is over...
14:25:29 [ivan]
:-(
14:25:41 [kidehen]
ok
14:25:41 [LeeF]
zakim, who's speaking?
14:25:47 [ivan]
I tried...
14:25:49 [ivan]
:-(
14:25:51 [Zakim]
LeeF, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Kingsley_Idehen (14%), Jeff_Schiffel (14%), martin (29%)
14:25:54 [martind]
(note: we've got some strange feedback problems, trying to fix them)
14:26:03 [LeeF]
zakim, mute martin
14:26:03 [Zakim]
martin should now be muted
14:26:15 [ivan]
zakim, mute kidehen
14:26:15 [Zakim]
sorry, ivan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to kidehen
14:26:36 [ivan]
zakim, mute Kingsley_Idehen
14:26:36 [Zakim]
Kingsley_Idehen should now be muted
14:26:42 [kidehen]
718 273 0900
14:26:44 [LeeF]
zakim, who's speaking?
14:26:53 [ivan]
zakim, umute Kingsley_Idehen
14:26:53 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'umute Kingsley_Idehen', ivan
14:26:55 [Zakim]
LeeF, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: wing (51%), Jeff_Schiffel (61%), Orri_Erling (5%)
14:26:57 [kidehen]
781 273 0900 I meant
14:27:05 [ivan]
zakim, unmute Kingsley_Idehen
14:27:05 [Zakim]
Kingsley_Idehen should no longer be muted
14:27:12 [LeeF]
zakim, mute Jeff_Schiffel
14:27:12 [Zakim]
Jeff_Schiffel should now be muted
14:27:45 [martind]
logos - small globe ideas
14:28:13 [martind]
the globe tends to disappear in smaller res. on larger it looks good
14:29:20 [martind]
current directions seem to be variant 11? 10?, 9?
14:30:31 [martind]
action: benjamin makes a final set of logos for the next week (based on 10)
14:30:33 [Frank]
+q
14:30:38 [ivan]
ack Frank
14:30:56 [martind]
use case slides template URL is:
14:31:01 [LeeF]
kidehen, I edited http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/PortalPlans
14:31:01 [ivan]
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/public/UseCases/
14:31:47 [martind]
presentation draft from wing
14:32:08 [martind]
...will be sent out to get some comments
14:32:33 [martind]
more high-level desc. intro, use cases, info gathering..
14:32:41 [ivan]
http://www.w3.org/2004/09/SubmitTalk
14:33:24 [martind]
ivan's URI enables to submit a presentation to the repository of other talks made by w3c people
14:33:25 [LeeF]
q+
14:33:32 [ivan]
ack lee
14:33:41 [ivan]
zakim, who is here?
14:33:41 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ivan, martin (muted), Jeff_Schiffel (muted), Kingsley_Idehen, wing, bengee, Orri_Erling, PaulaP (muted), Frank_Chum, ??P24
14:33:43 [Zakim]
wing has wing, LeeF
14:33:44 [Zakim]
On IRC I see uldis, Frank, LeeF, kidehen, wing, PaulaP, RRSAgent, Zakim, bengee, martind, ivan, kjetilk
14:34:04 [martind]
lee says there are quite a few conferences going on, many attended by SWEO people
14:34:29 [kidehen]
Lee: +1
14:34:41 [martind]
are people interested in looking/listening to each other's messages to get some idea of how this work is presented
14:34:42 [kidehen]
LeeF: +1
14:34:47 [uldis]
q+
14:34:49 [martind]
idea's welcome
14:34:55 [ivan]
zakim, uldis
14:34:55 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'uldis', ivan
14:35:03 [ivan]
ack uldis
14:35:10 [martind]
uldis asks about FAQ-s
14:35:25 [martind]
...what is the target audience for this form of info
14:36:25 [kidehen]
links for THALIA project tracking URL within Linking Open Data community project: http://esw.w3.org/topic/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/THALIATestbed
14:36:33 [martind]
they were started by ivan, oriented more on experts...
14:37:05 [kidehen]
links for Cornell's participation re. OLTP benchmarks based on LUBM: http://esw.w3.org/topic/TaskForces/CommunityProjects/LinkingOpenData/OLTPBenchmarks
14:37:07 [martind]
maybe when revising them, we should also include people who are less expert-dependent, may serve also a intro to SW for general public
14:39:17 [martind]
people already gave feedback on faq, would be good to ave this kind of finished by www'07
14:41:44 [uldis]
q+
14:42:02 [ivan]
ack uldis
14:42:44 [LeeF]
+1
14:42:45 [Frank]
+q
14:42:55 [martind]
uldis says it would be nice to condense the key definition of SW into a few, simple words
14:44:35 [martind]
in the future, faq could be extended by providing wiki (or similar tool) for people/visitors to record their new questions
14:44:43 [ivan]
ack frank
14:44:44 [LeeF]
+1 to wiki for discussion of FAQ
14:44:47 [LeeF]
+20 actually
14:45:05 [LeeF]
a staging ground, if you will
14:45:22 [martind]
orri would come up with a proposal for this idea
14:45:25 [ivan]
zakim, who is here?
14:45:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Ivan, martin (muted), Jeff_Schiffel (muted), Kingsley_Idehen, wing, bengee, Orri_Erling, PaulaP (muted), Frank_Chum, ??P24
14:45:25 [martind]
?
14:45:27 [Zakim]
wing has wing, LeeF
14:45:29 [Zakim]
On IRC I see uldis, Frank, LeeF, kidehen, wing, PaulaP, RRSAgent, Zakim, bengee, martind, ivan, kjetilk
14:45:41 [uldis]
examples of discussion pages for FAQ are PHP documentation and Mozilla XUL documentation
14:46:07 [ivan]
zakim, ??p24 is uldis
14:46:33 [martind]
no more items... for today
14:46:35 [Zakim]
+uldis; got it
14:47:39 [martind]
thanks
14:47:41 [PaulaP]
bye
14:47:43 [Zakim]
-Orri_Erling
14:47:44 [Zakim]
-Frank_Chum
14:47:44 [Zakim]
-bengee
14:47:46 [Zakim]
-Jeff_Schiffel
14:47:47 [Zakim]
-uldis
14:47:48 [Zakim]
-PaulaP
14:47:49 [Zakim]
-Kingsley_Idehen
14:47:51 [Zakim]
-Ivan
14:47:55 [Zakim]
-martin
14:47:57 [Zakim]
-wing
14:47:58 [Zakim]
SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
14:48:00 [Zakim]
Attendees were Ivan, martin, Jeff_Schiffel, Kingsley_Idehen, lee, wing, LeeF, Orri_Erling, bengee, PaulaP, Frank_Chum, uldis
14:48:11 [uldis]
uldis has left #sweo
14:48:18 [martind]
ivan, will you generate the minutes from this?
14:48:33 [Frank]
Frank has left #SWEO
14:48:44 [LeeF]
rrsagent, draft minutes
14:48:44 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-minutes.html LeeF
14:48:49 [LeeF]
rrsagent, make logs world-access
14:49:44 [ivan]
rrsagent, bye
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-actions.rdf :
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: kingsley to connecting Karen, Ivan for xbrl [1]
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-irc#T14-07-12
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: ivan to contact karen about the survey [2]
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-irc#T14-17-19
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: frank sends input to ivan for conversion [3]
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-irc#T14-18-44
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
ACTION: benjamin makes a final set of logos for the next week (based on 10) [4]
14:49:44 [RRSAgent]
recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-SWEO-irc#T14-30-31