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14:20:09 <LeeF> zakim, this will be DAWG
14:20:09 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
14:20:20 <LeeF> Meeting: RDF Data Access Weekly
14:20:24 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:20:27 <LeeF> Scribe: LeeF
14:20:32 <LeeF> Rgrets: jeen, souri
14:20:50 <LeeF> agenda + convene
14:20:53 <LeeF> agenda + action items
14:20:59 <LeeF> agenda + last call comments
14:21:11 <LeeF> agenda + FROM * / FROM NAMED *
14:21:23 <LeeF> agenda + langMatches
14:25:00 <LeeF> agenda + test suite
14:25:00 <SimonR> SimonR has joined #dawg
14:25:04 <LeeF> agenda + towards cr
14:28:38 <Zakim> SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started
14:28:45 <Zakim> +??P12
14:28:48 <AndyS> zakim, ??P12 is me
14:28:48 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
14:29:18 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
14:29:40 <LeeF> zakim, IBMCambridge is me
14:29:40 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
14:31:42 <Zakim> +??P14
14:31:49 <SimonR> Zakim, ??P14 is me
14:31:49 <Zakim> +SimonR; got it
14:34:36 <LeeF> ericP?
14:35:00 <Zakim> +EricP
14:35:37 <Zakim> +Orri_Erling
14:37:23 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:37:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, LeeF, SimonR, EricP, Orri_Erling
14:37:36 <SimonR> Zakim, mute me
14:37:36 <Zakim> SimonR should now be muted
14:37:55 <LeeF> zakim, take up first agendum
14:37:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take up first agendum', LeeF
14:38:00 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
14:38:00 <Zakim> agendum 1. "convene" taken up [from LeeF]
14:38:19 <LeeF> minutes from last week -> http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-minutes
14:38:55 <ericP> scribe: ericP
14:39:23 <ericP> scribe: LeeF
14:39:44 <LeeF> approved minutes, ericP seconding
14:40:04 <LeeF> next meeting, 17 Apr, regrets AndyS
14:40:07 <EliasT> EliasT has joined #dawg
14:40:42 <LeeF> scribe next meeting @@
14:40:46 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:40:46 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
14:40:47 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:40:48 <Zakim> 2. action items [from LeeF]
14:41:02 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to commit batch updates to out-of-date tests  [DONE]
14:41:56 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to add tests along the lines of  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html  to data-r2/syntax-sparql* and send mail so we can approve them next week [DONE]
14:42:17 <LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests 
14:42:35 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to  generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [CONTINUES]
14:42:40 <LeeF> action -3
14:42:45 <LeeF> ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests  [CONTINUES]
14:42:57 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update  http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible  results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [CONTINUES]
14:43:12 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF or EliasT to reply to Bjoern regarding (not) POSTing  application/sparql-query documents [CONTINUES]
14:43:35 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put  [CONTINUES]
14:43:43 <LeeF> ACTION: jeen to go through and identify out-of-date tests that shouldn't  be migrated to data-r2 (after ericP commits batch updates to tests)  [CONTINUES]
14:43:49 <LeeF> ACTION: jeen to mark these 22 approved tests as approved [CONTINUES]
14:43:54 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:43:54 <Zakim> I do not know what agendum had been taken up, LeeF
14:43:59 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
14:43:59 <Zakim> agendum 2. "action items" taken up [from LeeF]
14:44:01 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:44:01 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
14:44:02 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:44:03 <Zakim> 3. last call comments [from LeeF]
14:44:04 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
14:44:04 <Zakim> agendum 3. "last call comments" taken up [from LeeF]
14:44:46 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to try running DanC's comment-tracking script(s)
14:45:29 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0003.html Andy's reply to Corby comments
14:48:32 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
14:48:32 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
14:48:33 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:48:34 <Zakim> 4. FROM * / FROM NAMED * [from LeeF]
14:48:36 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
14:48:36 <Zakim> agendum 4. "FROM * / FROM NAMED *" taken up [from LeeF]
14:48:54 <SimonR> Zakim, unmute me
14:48:54 <Zakim> SimonR should no longer be muted
14:49:23 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0001.html Chimezie on FROM / FROM NAMED *
14:49:30 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0003.html working group thread
14:49:59 <SimonR> q+
14:50:52 <LeeF> ack SimonR
14:51:44 <LeeF> SimonR: In Mulgara, we have a graph '#' that can be queried and its information is all the other graphs that the system has 
14:54:17 <LeeF> Orri: In Virtuoso, if you omit FROM and FROM NAMED you get the union of all graphs
14:54:46 <AndyS> In ARQ you get whatever the dataset has been set up to be.
14:55:45 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/issues#serviceDescription service description
14:59:20 <SimonR> We may be able to respond to this issue by saying we have two postponed issues: service description, and cascaded queries.  Together, these will probably address the use case in the next version (1.1?)
15:01:22 <LeeF> ACTION: SimonR to respond to Chimezie noting no change and referencing the postponed cascaded queries and service description issues
15:02:04 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2007Apr/0004.html Andy's response to Ivan
15:03:23 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
15:03:24 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
15:03:25 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:03:26 <Zakim> 5. langMatches [from LeeF]
15:03:29 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
15:03:29 <Zakim> agendum 5. "langMatches" taken up [from LeeF]
15:04:13 <LeeF> ericP: there are two kinds of matching for language tags (there used to be one - there's more structure in between the hyphens now)
15:04:37 <LeeF> ericP: one matching is compatible with 3067 and one is newer and deals with being in the proper script even if you don't know the language
15:04:53 <LeeF> ericP: jeremy gave two approaches - the conservative approach goes with basic matching - everyone knows this approach
15:05:08 <LeeF> ericP: the other approach promotes the new rfc 4646 scheme but would be a change to our language
15:05:23 <LeeF> ericP: I think we should clarify and go with basic 
15:08:16 <LeeF> AndyS: We need to reference the right part of the document and need to specify which matching algorithm to use (basic)
15:09:57 <LeeF> ACTION: ericP to respond to Jeremy Carroll's comments re: langMatches
15:10:01 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
15:10:01 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
15:10:02 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:10:03 <Zakim> 6. test suite [from LeeF]
15:10:07 <LeeF> zakim, take up next agendum
15:10:07 <Zakim> agendum 6. "test suite" taken up [from LeeF]
15:10:26 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0007.html Eric's changes to old tests
15:10:49 <LeeF> ...includes Algae output showing which tests still fail
15:11:30 <LeeF> I encourage people to look at sets of test cases and propose them for approval
15:12:01 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html Eric: tests of blabels in BGP patterns
15:14:13 <AndyS> Syntax tests: 196 tests
15:14:26 <AndyS> Passed 196 tests.
15:14:37 <LeeF> PROPOSED: approve the four tests referenced in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html
15:15:08 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/syntax-sparql3/syn-blabel-cross-filter.rq
15:16:03 <SimonR> I'll abstain.
15:16:08 <LeeF> RESOLVED, SimonR abstaining
15:16:27 <LeeF> ACTION: LeeF to mark the four tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0009.html approved
15:16:34 <LeeF> zakim, close this agendum
15:16:34 <Zakim> agendum 6 closed
15:16:35 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:16:36 <Zakim> 7. towards cr [from LeeF]
15:17:20 <LeeF> LeeF: anything else?
15:17:25 <LeeF> ericP: I made the Last Call status report work
15:17:37 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/lc-status-report LC status report
15:18:27 <LeeF> ...not quite working yet :)
15:18:44 <Zakim> -Orri_Erling
15:18:50 <SimonR> ADJOURN at 15:18Z
15:19:09 <Zakim> -LeeF
15:19:20 <LeeF> rrsagent, stop