IRC log of sweo on 2007-04-04

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13:53:28 [ivan]
zakim, this will be sweo
13:53:28 [Zakim]
ok, ivan; I see SW_SWEO()10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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rrsagent, set log public
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Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco
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Chair: Susie
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Regrets: Pasquale
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SW_SWEO()10:00AM has now started
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+??P8
13:59:30 [uldis]
??P8 is uldis
13:59:35 [wing]
zakim, code?
13:59:35 [Zakim]
the conference code is 7936 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
13:59:56 [uldis]
zakim, ??P8 is uldis
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+uldis; got it
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+[IBMCambridge]
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zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
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+wing; got it
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+Kingsley_Idehen
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+[IPcaller]
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+Susie
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+Jeff_Schiffel
14:01:02 [ivan]
zakim, dial ivan-home
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ok, ivan; the call is being made
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+Ivan
14:01:23 [bengee]
zakim, [IPcaller] is me
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+bengee; got it
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+ +1.603.557.aaaa
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-bengee
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hi
14:04:00 [ivan]
scribenick uldis
14:04:03 [ivan]
scribenick: uldis
14:04:03 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
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Susie giving outline of the telco
14:04:11 [bengee]
zakim, [IPcaller] is me
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+bengee; got it
14:04:23 [uldis]
talk about enterprise survey, use cases, finish with work on logos
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Nelly from Oracle
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introducing herself
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s/N/M
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part of SemWeb technology development group
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+??P20
14:05:20 [ivan]
(full name: Melliyal Annamalai)
14:05:22 [wing]
welcome!
14:05:28 [Zakim]
+Orri_Erling
14:05:30 [uldis]
group also interacting w. customers and exploring use cases
14:05:32 [leobard]
I just joined
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zakim, ??P20 is leo
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+leo; got it
14:06:21 [ivan]
zakim, who is here?
14:06:22 [Zakim]
On the phone I see uldis, wing, Kingsley_Idehen, Susie, Jeff_Schiffel, Ivan, +1.603.557.aaaa, bengee, leo, Orri_Erling
14:06:24 [Zakim]
On IRC I see leobard, kidehen, RRSAgent, Zakim, wing, bengee, uldis, ivan
14:06:41 [uldis]
Leo to give update in InfoGathering tasks
14:06:53 [uldis]
last week started w. license issues
14:07:06 [uldis]
Ivan got us legal advice from W3C
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(from Rigo Wenning, W3C team)
14:07:33 [uldis]
Leo talked w. Rigo Winning re. license advice
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got some feedback from people re. data sources and licenses to use
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Leo will forward this info to the list
14:08:09 [uldis]
CC license is what people want
14:09:07 [uldis]
"gather info now, let's visualise afterwards"
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will continue info-gathering as it is, providing all the data about SemWeb in RDF
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as a 2nd step we work on annotating, filtering and cleaning this data, and visualising it
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can even make a new task force for this task
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Susie: what a data format will be finished
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Leo: we need time. not so many edits on data formats page
14:10:55 [uldis]
great if someone could make a good HowTo on the wiki
14:11:05 [uldis]
on info gathering and formats to use, Leo?
14:11:11 [leobard]
http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/TaskForces/InfoGathering/DataVocabulary
14:11:39 [uldis]
kidehen: do we need a text on the wiki saying "here's the guide for publishing the data"?
14:11:44 [uldis]
yes
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definitive statement how to contribute data to this effort
14:12:17 [kidehen]
kidehen: agrees to do how-to contribute RDF Data to Info Gathering effort
14:12:27 [uldis]
leobard published a URL fo the wiki page, need some editors for it
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kidehen will start the edits on it
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others can / should join
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action: Leo to send email to the list about this wiki page and guides for contributing
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Leo: happy to see people from outside the IG reply and provide data
14:14:24 [uldis]
next item: Enterprise Survey
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Karen's dedicating the day to finishing the survey,
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will have the draft shortly
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next item: Use Cases
14:15:09 [uldis]
ivan giving an update
14:15:21 [uldis]
last week uploaded & finalises Segala's use case
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today finalised case study from ... (company name?)
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Tata Consulting Services
14:15:52 [uldis]
thanks
14:16:05 [uldis]
had contacts with Renault
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agreed to do a use case to use the SemWeb
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for their internal documentation
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3 weeks from now
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got an agreement with a food & agriculture organisation
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Susie talked w. people in Pfizer
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... did not catch the last one from Susie ...
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use case w. Shevron
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s/Shevron/Chevron
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we will have 10-12 use cases that we can publicise
14:17:59 [uldis]
thanks for the corrections
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ivan unified all the formats, converted to PDFs
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Leo to remind ...
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next item: Logos
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bengee gives an overview
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http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas
14:21:16 [uldis]
#9 and #10 are variations of what was decided the last call
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#9 by Kingsley with a lighter font
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discussion
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Susie: #9 and #10 are nice. good progress.
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q+
14:22:47 [ivan]
ack uldis
14:24:04 [uldis]
uldis: #6 stands out more than #10
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Susie: maybe have 2 different options to use according to what background they are on
14:24:47 [uldis]
ivan: has bengee tried to reduce #10 to smaller versions like we had for #6
14:25:07 [uldis]
small versions is what one will use on many pages. how does that look w. #10
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action: bengie to make smaller versions of #10
14:27:03 [uldis]
ivan more in favor of #10. more appealing for esthetics.
14:27:58 [uldis]
nice progress, need to get the small size and then we're done
14:28:22 [uldis]
that's all for the set agenda
14:28:35 [uldis]
please let know if you can make it to F2F at the end of this month
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FAQ - please look it over and provide comments
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discussion of any other business
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wing - putting together a presentation for ...
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ivan - arranging to meet up with ...
14:30:36 [wing]
yue pan in china
14:30:40 [uldis]
next Tue is a monthly Cambridge area SemWeb meetup
14:30:52 [uldis]
if you are in the area, that's a good event to participate in
14:31:03 [wing]
wing - presentation for SICoP
14:31:40 [ivan]
q+
14:32:35 [uldis]
Susie tells about the case studies
14:33:00 [uldis]
couple of pages, to help CEO and CIO see how to make use of the Semantic Web
14:34:41 [uldis]
F2F is to get all of us together in one room, focused to do SWEO work
14:35:04 [uldis]
ack ivan
14:35:46 [uldis]
ivan: experience when meeting w. industries is - they want to see some kind of proof that somebody is already using this technology for making money
14:36:01 [uldis]
until now no such a list, Ivan has some pointers which are in presentations here and there
14:36:28 [uldis]
having clear use cases, signed by companies themselves is an important thing to answer these questions
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they will be public documents
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q+
14:39:08 [ivan]
ack uldis
14:41:18 [uldis]
http://www.icwsm.org/blog/index.html
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1st International Conf. on Weblogs and Social Media
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a conference to keep an eye on. there are things how this area can benefit from the SemWeb and structured data, but more outreach needed
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kidehen: about community projects summary
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project ... (what was the name?)
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within Linking OpenData project will inject RDF/OWL
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will have a generic testbed for RDF / SemWeb tech.
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another project ...
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financial data
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kidehen: if you can put project names in IRC
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ontology to query financial and economic data
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those 2 efforts have come in to a particular project
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Karen is trying to build contact with different financial institutions via W3C
14:45:39 [uldis]
would be good if kidehen help in making these contacts
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send all this information to Karen
14:47:36 [uldis]
we need not only a creation of ontology but a use case where it is used
14:48:40 [uldis]
kidehen: the particular case is describing creation of ontology
14:48:59 [uldis]
ivan: a use case is a step further - that an institution is already using this data
14:49:41 [uldis]
kidehen: the delay between an ontology and creation of instance data will be very short
14:49:48 [uldis]
will revisit this next week
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XBRL
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xbrl.org
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-Susie
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-uldis
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- +1.603.557.aaaa
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-bengee
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-Jeff_Schiffel
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-Orri_Erling
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-Kingsley_Idehen
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-Ivan
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-leo
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-wing
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SW_SWEO()10:00AM has ended
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Attendees were uldis, wing, Kingsley_Idehen, Susie, Jeff_Schiffel, Ivan, bengee, +1.603.557.aaaa, Orri_Erling, leo
14:51:51 [ivan]
rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-minutes.html ivan
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rrsagent, bye
14:52:40 [RRSAgent]
I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Leo to send email to the list about this wiki page and guides for contributing [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-irc#T14-13-41
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ACTION: bengie to make smaller versions of #10 [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-sweo-irc#T14-25-47