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13:57:53 <YvesS> zakim, this will be I18N_TS
13:57:53 <Zakim> ok, YvesS; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
13:58:16 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n ITS WG
13:58:18 <fsasaki> chair: Yves
13:58:21 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:58:24 <fsasaki> scribeNick: fsasaki
13:58:25 <YvesS> :) but I didn't do much yet
13:58:31 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
13:58:33 <fsasaki> :)
13:59:03 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0002.html
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14:01:16 <Zakim> +Yves_Savourel
14:01:26 <Zakim> +Felix
14:01:31 <Zakim> +??P14
14:01:41 <Zakim> +??P17
14:02:11 <YvesS> zakim, who is here?
14:02:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Felix, ??P14, Andrzej
14:02:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see Jirka, fsasaki, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS
14:02:33 <Zakim> +??P19
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14:02:42 <fsasaki> regrets: Sebastian
14:03:14 <fsasaki> topic: congrats
14:03:23 <fsasaki> Yves: we are now a REC!
14:03:30 <fsasaki> Andzrej: congrats to Yves!
14:03:35 <fsasaki> ++1000! :)
14:03:41 <fsasaki> topic: action items
14:03:47 <Jirka> +1000000 ;-D
14:03:49 <fsasaki> action: Felix to change the entities prefix in the tagset draft its.dtd (DONE)
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14:03:59 <fsasaki> action: Yves to add a link to the test suite page to the links page (DONE)
14:04:25 <fsasaki> action: Everybody to provide information about presentations on ITS, Yves to setup the page (ONGOING)
14:04:30 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/links.html
14:05:04 <fsasaki> Yves: please send articles to me with your links
14:05:19 <fsasaki> Andrzej: I have one, will send them
14:05:38 <AZ> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2007/02/21/oaxal-open-architecture-for-xml-authoring-and-localization.html
14:05:56 <fsasaki> .. OASIS wants to start a TC about oaxal, ITS is part of oaxal
14:06:26 <fsasaki> Yves: ok. I put links about implementations to the page as well. Andrzej, do you have a link about your implementations?
14:06:38 <AZ> http://www.xml-intl.com/web/guest/standards
14:06:53 <fsasaki> Andrezj: ITS is at the bottom of that page
14:07:20 <AZ> http://www.xml-intl.com/web/guest/products/xtm
14:08:43 <fsasaki> Andrzej: that page contains information about the ITS implementation
14:08:53 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll contact you about the details
14:09:43 <fsasaki> Christian: are we going to track tool providers who support ITS? And provide a section about that?
14:10:05 <fsasaki> Yves: good idea. At least at the beginnin we should do that
14:10:41 <fsasaki> s/beginnin/beginning/
14:10:57 <fsasaki> action: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan words for the BP document (DONE)
14:11:05 <fsasaki> Yves: look at that during BP discussion
14:11:19 <fsasaki> s/discussion/discussion today/
14:11:33 <fsasaki> action: yves to try a restructering of existing examples and how to put highlights and find a pattern (DONE)
14:11:40 <fsasaki> topic: review of W3C specs in view of ITS
14:12:16 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
14:14:19 <fsasaki> Felix: propose to look through the last call list each week very briefly and see were we can make a last call comment to have ITS adopted
14:14:24 <fsasaki> Yves: sounds good to me
14:15:07 <fsasaki> Christian: good idea. Not sure about the bandwith it takes
14:15:29 <fsasaki> Felix: what kind of bandwith?
14:15:37 <fsasaki> Christian: looking at the specs at hand
14:17:37 <fsasaki> Felix: for example in WSDL you don't need to do that
14:18:13 <fsasaki> Christian: might still be necessary for xsd in WSDL
14:18:18 <fsasaki> Jirka: maybe we can split the specs
14:19:17 <fsasaki> Felix: I could pre-look the specs and make proposals for you
14:20:54 <fsasaki> Yves: it might not take to much time if we are focused
14:21:32 <fsasaki> Felix: currently there is only XForms 1.1 here, I think. I'm talking to XML Schema WG about direct support of ITS in XML Schema 
14:21:46 <fsasaki> Yves: I'll make sure to have this is a topic at each ITS call from now on
14:21:59 <fsasaki> topic: Best Practices Working Draft
14:22:06 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html
14:22:33 <fsasaki> Yves: should we publish a new WD before the next f2f?
14:22:38 <fsasaki> Felix: +1000
14:23:21 <fsasaki> ... let's publish as much as possible
14:23:58 <fsasaki> Yves: we now generate a DIFF file with automated revisions, I need Felix help for that
14:24:51 <fsasaki> Jirka: I would like to prepare a section on DocBook
14:25:57 <fsasaki> Felix: we can publish after next meeting directly, and make another publication after your section is ready
14:26:02 <fsasaki> Jirka: OK
14:26:29 <fsasaki> action: Everybody to look at the BP document for WD update publication (vote after next meeting)
14:26:35 <fsasaki> topic: ITS Recommendation
14:26:59 <fsasaki> Christian: I saw the press release for ITS. Will anybody forward that to the usual groups? XLIFF, translation WS?
14:27:16 <fsasaki> .. or the people in the localization industry
14:27:39 <fsasaki> Yves: I sent some mails already, I want to ask Multilingual Computing for a review as well
14:27:48 <fsasaki> Christian: good. About tools providers?
14:27:57 <fsasaki> Yves: talked to Trados people
14:29:09 <fsasaki> Christian: would contact various people, but if you have done that already ...
14:29:18 <fsasaki> Yves: no problem to ping people twice, I think
14:30:24 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html
14:30:29 <fsasaki> topic: BP publication
14:30:36 <fsasaki> s/publication/WD/
14:31:17 <fsasaki> (Yves describes the restructering)
14:33:39 <fsasaki> Felix: should you and me work on the XMLSPEC DTD issues?
14:33:44 <fsasaki> Yves: yes
14:34:30 <YvesS> http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthTrans
14:34:35 <fsasaki> action: Yves and Felix to look on XMLSPEC DTD issues for BP doc
14:36:12 <fsasaki> Yves: "Example 21: XML document with inppropriate usage of its:translate." is a *bad* example. Need to have a different styling for that
14:37:11 <fsasaki> Yves: made also changes related to BCP 47 reference
14:37:34 <fsasaki> Felix: I'll look in to that issues with the bad example styling
14:37:48 <fsasaki> topic: Face-to-face meeting at SAP Paris
14:38:00 <fsasaki> Yves: make agenda proposal until next week
14:38:07 <fsasaki> .. Christian provided hotel list
14:39:16 <fsasaki> topic: Other business
14:39:35 <fsasaki> Yves: thanks for sending me feedback on my XTech draft
14:40:23 <fsasaki> .. you can send me more until tomorrow morning my time
14:41:14 <fsasaki> adjourned
14:41:14 <Zakim> -Andrzej
14:41:21 <Zakim> -Christian
14:41:25 <Zakim> -Jirka
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14:45:01 <Zakim> -Yves_Savourel
14:45:03 <Zakim> -Felix
14:45:04 <Zakim> I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended
14:45:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Andrzej, Jirka, Christian
14:45:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki
15:07:57 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-actions.rdf :
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to change the entities prefix in the tagset draft its.dtd (DONE) [1]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-03-49
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves to add a link to the test suite page to the links page (DONE) [2]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-03-59
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everybody to provide information about presentations on ITS, Yves to setup the page (ONGOING) [3]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-04-25
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan words for the BP document (DONE) [4]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-10-57
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: yves to try a restructering of existing examples and how to put highlights and find a pattern (DONE) [5]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-11-33
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everybody to look at the BP document for WD update publication (vote after next meeting) [6]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-26-29
15:07:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Yves and Felix to look on XMLSPEC DTD issues for BP doc [7]
15:07:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-34-35
15:07:59 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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