IRC log of i18nits on 2007-04-04

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13:57:53 [YvesS]

zakim, this will be I18N_TS

13:57:53 [Zakim]

ok, YvesS; I see I18N_TS()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

13:58:16 [fsasaki]

meeting: i18n ITS WG

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chair: Yves

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scribe: Felix

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scribeNick: fsasaki

13:58:25 [YvesS]

:) but I didn't do much yet

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rrsagent, make log public

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:)

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-its/2007AprJun/0002.html

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I18N_TS()10:00AM has now started

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+Yves_Savourel

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+Felix

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+??P14

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+??P17

14:02:11 [YvesS]

zakim, who is here?

14:02:11 [Zakim]

On the phone I see Yves_Savourel, Felix, ??P14, Andrzej

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On IRC I see Jirka, fsasaki, RRSAgent, Zakim, YvesS

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+??P19

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regrets: Sebastian

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topic: congrats

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Yves: we are now a REC!

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Andzrej: congrats to Yves!

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++1000! :)

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topic: action items

14:03:47 [Jirka]

+1000000 ;-D

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action: Felix to change the entities prefix in the tagset draft its.dtd (DONE)

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14:03:59 [fsasaki]

action: Yves to add a link to the test suite page to the links page (DONE)

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action: Everybody to provide information about presentations on ITS, Yves to setup the page (ONGOING)

14:04:30 [YvesS]

http://www.w3.org/International/its/links.html

14:05:04 [fsasaki]

Yves: please send articles to me with your links

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Andrzej: I have one, will send them

14:05:38 [AZ]

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2007/02/21/oaxal-open-architecture-for-xml-authoring-and-localization.html

14:05:56 [fsasaki]

.. OASIS wants to start a TC about oaxal, ITS is part of oaxal

14:06:26 [fsasaki]

Yves: ok. I put links about implementations to the page as well. Andrzej, do you have a link about your implementations?

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http://www.xml-intl.com/web/guest/standards

14:06:53 [fsasaki]

Andrezj: ITS is at the bottom of that page

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http://www.xml-intl.com/web/guest/products/xtm

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Andrzej: that page contains information about the ITS implementation

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Yves: I'll contact you about the details

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Christian: are we going to track tool providers who support ITS? And provide a section about that?

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Yves: good idea. At least at the beginnin we should do that

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s/beginnin/beginning/

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action: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan words for the BP document (DONE)

14:11:05 [fsasaki]

Yves: look at that during BP discussion

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s/discussion/discussion today/

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action: yves to try a restructering of existing examples and how to put highlights and find a pattern (DONE)

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topic: review of W3C specs in view of ITS

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http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call

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Felix: propose to look through the last call list each week very briefly and see were we can make a last call comment to have ITS adopted

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Yves: sounds good to me

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Christian: good idea. Not sure about the bandwith it takes

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Felix: what kind of bandwith?

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Christian: looking at the specs at hand

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Felix: for example in WSDL you don't need to do that

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Christian: might still be necessary for xsd in WSDL

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Jirka: maybe we can split the specs

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Felix: I could pre-look the specs and make proposals for you

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Yves: it might not take to much time if we are focused

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Felix: currently there is only XForms 1.1 here, I think. I'm talking to XML Schema WG about direct support of ITS in XML Schema

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Yves: I'll make sure to have this is a topic at each ITS call from now on

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topic: Best Practices Working Draft

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html

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Yves: should we publish a new WD before the next f2f?

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Felix: +1000

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... let's publish as much as possible

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Yves: we now generate a DIFF file with automated revisions, I need Felix help for that

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Jirka: I would like to prepare a section on DocBook

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Felix: we can publish after next meeting directly, and make another publication after your section is ready

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Jirka: OK

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action: Everybody to look at the BP document for WD update publication (vote after next meeting)

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topic: ITS Recommendation

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Christian: I saw the press release for ITS. Will anybody forward that to the usual groups? XLIFF, translation WS?

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.. or the people in the localization industry

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Yves: I sent some mails already, I want to ask Multilingual Computing for a review as well

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Christian: good. About tools providers?

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Yves: talked to Trados people

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Christian: would contact various people, but if you have done that already ...

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Yves: no problem to ping people twice, I think

14:30:24 [YvesS]

http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html

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topic: BP publication

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s/publication/WD/

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(Yves describes the restructering)

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Felix: should you and me work on the XMLSPEC DTD issues?

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Yves: yes

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http://www.w3.org/International/its/techniques/its-techniques.html#AuthTrans

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action: Yves and Felix to look on XMLSPEC DTD issues for BP doc

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Yves: "Example 21: XML document with inppropriate usage of its:translate." is a *bad* example. Need to have a different styling for that

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Yves: made also changes related to BCP 47 reference

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Felix: I'll look in to that issues with the bad example styling

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topic: Face-to-face meeting at SAP Paris

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Yves: make agenda proposal until next week

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.. Christian provided hotel list

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topic: Other business

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Yves: thanks for sending me feedback on my XTech draft

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.. you can send me more until tomorrow morning my time

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adjourned

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-Andrzej

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-Christian

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-Jirka

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-Yves_Savourel

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-Felix

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I18N_TS()10:00AM has ended

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Attendees were Yves_Savourel, Felix, Andrzej, Jirka, Christian

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-minutes.html fsasaki

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rrsagent, bye

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I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: Felix to change the entities prefix in the tagset draft its.dtd (DONE) [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-03-49

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ACTION: Yves to add a link to the test suite page to the links page (DONE) [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-03-59

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ACTION: Everybody to provide information about presentations on ITS, Yves to setup the page (ONGOING) [3]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-04-25

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ACTION: Yves and Felix to create an example related to loan words for the BP document (DONE) [4]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-10-57

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ACTION: yves to try a restructering of existing examples and how to put highlights and find a pattern (DONE) [5]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-11-33

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ACTION: Everybody to look at the BP document for WD update publication (vote after next meeting) [6]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-26-29

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ACTION: Yves and Felix to look on XMLSPEC DTD issues for BP doc [7]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-i18nits-irc#T14-34-35

15:07:59 [fsasaki]

zakim, bye

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