14:23:07 RRSAgent has joined #dawg 14:23:07 logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc 14:23:57 zakim, how are you feeling today? 14:23:57 I don't understand your question, LeeF. 14:24:04 zakim, this will be DAWG 14:24:04 ok, LeeF; I see SW_DAWG()10:30AM scheduled to start in 6 minutes 14:24:21 Meeting: RDF DAWG Weekly 14:24:24 Chair: LeeF 14:24:26 Scribe: EricP 14:24:27 i think 14:24:49 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0000.html 14:25:01 LeeF has changed the topic to: "RDF Data Access Working Group - Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007AprJun/0000.html" 14:25:26 Regrets: And 14:25:48 :) 14:28:38 zakim, code? 14:28:38 the conference code is 7333 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), LeeF 14:28:59 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has now started 14:29:06 + +1.201.447.aaaa 14:29:10 zakim, aaaa is me 14:29:10 +LeeF; got it 14:32:15 SimonR has joined #dawg 14:32:30 sdas2 has joined #dawg 14:33:11 ericP, you around? 14:33:28 +Orri_Erling 14:34:44 +EricP 14:35:01 +??P19 14:35:11 Zakim, ??P19 is me 14:35:11 +SimonR; got it 14:35:49 jeen, souri, SteveH - will any of you be joining us today ? 14:35:56 Is 617-761-6200 ext 7333 working? 14:36:07 it worked for me... but it's been giving some people some trouble 14:36:09 It is for me, at least. 14:36:14 not urgent, thanks SteveH 14:36:31 +Souri_Das 14:37:00 trying 14:37:41 +??P20 14:37:50 zakim, ??P20 is me 14:37:50 +jeen; got it 14:38:09 regrets: AndyS (0-.5) 14:38:14 minutes from two weeks ago: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/att-0194/20-dawg-minutes.html 14:38:29 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/att-0194/20-dawg-minutes last meeting record 14:39:14 EliasT has joined #dawg 14:39:20 APPROVED (as true record of last meeting) 14:39:49 +[IBMCambridge] 14:39:50 next meeting: 10 April, scribe: LeeF, regrets: jeen 14:39:59 Zakim, IBMCambridge is me 14:39:59 +EliasT; got it 14:40:19 ACTION: AndyS to incorporate and explain the notion of active graph in section 8 and/or wherever else appropriate [DONE} 14:40:30 ACTION: Eric to incorporate text for REDUCED into rq25, including text noting that REDUCED does not play nicely with counting [DONE] 14:40:36 ACTION: ericP schedule teleconf for Friday [DONE] 14:40:45 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests 14:40:58 ACTION: LeeF or EliasT to reply to Bjoern regarding (not) POSTing application/sparql-query documents [CONTINUES] 14:40:59 CONTINUED 14:41:58 ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put [CONTINUES] 14:42:12 agenda + convene 14:42:14 agenda + action items 14:42:18 agenda + last call comments 14:42:21 zakim, take up agendum 3 14:42:21 agendum 3. "last call comments" taken up [from LeeF] 14:42:34 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0188.html LeeF on comment handling 14:44:51 +PatH 14:44:53 [LeeF summarizes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0188] 14:45:18 LeeF: we have comments from Olivier 14:45:22 agenda + test suite 14:45:27 zakim, take up agendum 4 14:45:27 agendum 4. "test suite" taken up [from LeeF] 14:45:41 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0080.html the tests in question 14:45:46 ... AndyS made suggestions, and someone will respond to commentor 14:46:53 LeeF, any problems with any of these tests? 14:48:00 ... happy with reports that implementations pass tests, or that folks believe to be correct by inspection 14:48:22 PROPOSED approve tests in - http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/bnode-coreference/ 14:48:22 (1 test) 14:48:22 - http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/bound/ 14:48:22 (1 test) 14:48:23 - http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/optional/ 14:48:25 (3 tests) 14:48:27 - http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/data-r2/expr-builtin/ 14:48:29 (17 tests) 14:48:45 2nd: ericP, jeen 14:49:12 RESOLVED, no objections or abstaintaintions 14:49:19 ACTION: jeen to mark these 22 approved tests as approved 14:49:49 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html ericp's syntax test 14:51:11 patH has joined #dawg 14:52:21 ACTION: ericP to add tests along the lines of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html to data-r2/syntax-sparql* and send mail so we can approve them next week 14:53:37 agenda + What needs to be done on the test suite? 14:53:41 zakim, take up agendum 5 14:53:41 agendum 5. "What needs to be done on the test suite?" taken up [from LeeF] 14:54:21 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README tests reeadme 14:54:28 -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0188 (bottom) LeeF on comments on test suites 14:55:07 LeeF: tests reeadme needs updates with manifest vocabulary changes 14:55:26 Has everyone seen Jeremy Carroll's email to the RDF and OWL lists re. language tags? It looks relevant to us. 14:55:26 ... does not mention that results can be in .rdf, .src, ttl 14:55:29 se http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-rdf-comments/2007AprJun/0000 14:57:21 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies 14:57:37 agenda + Jeremy Carroll and language tags 14:57:51 Eric, .src stands for which format? 14:58:05 .srx XML results format 14:58:06 that should be .srx 14:58:08 ok 14:58:16 -> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ overview page 14:58:29 LeeF: we have an overview page for tests, how is it produced? 14:59:26 zakim, sdas2 is souri 14:59:26 sorry, sdas2, I do not recognize a party named 'sdas2' 15:01:12 ericP: uses 3store 15:01:13 Souri has joined #dawg 15:01:27 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ 15:01:41 ... was installed on a machine in tokyo which was recently scavenged for parts 15:02:01 LeeF: least costly path to restore/reimplement? 15:02:14 ericP: probably restore, with SteveH's help 15:02:17 AndyS has joined #dawg 15:02:36 +??P33 15:02:39 LeeF: anyone who has time should check old tests and propose to move them to data2 15:02:44 zakim, ??P33 is me 15:02:44 +AndyS; got it 15:06:03 ACTION: ericP to commit batch updates to out-of-date tests 15:06:22 ACTION: after ericP commits batch updates to tests, jeen to go through and identify out-of-date tests that shouldn't be migrated to data-r2 15:07:29 agenda ? 15:07:45 zakim, take up agendum 6 15:07:45 agendum 6. "Jeremy Carroll and language tags" taken up [from LeeF] 15:08:26 http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt 15:08:29 http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4646.txt 15:08:33 :-) 15:09:18 -> http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4647.txt matching of language tags 15:09:49 patH: JJC says "please use 4646 instead of 3066" 15:10:02 ericP: we use 4647 15:10:07 -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/#rfc4647 ref to 4647 15:10:54 AndyS: did ericP check for salient diffs in 4647? 15:11:00 ericP: i *think* so 15:11:29 agenda + status and CR 15:11:36 Zakim, take up agendum 7 15:11:36 agendum 7. "status and CR" taken up [from ericP] 15:11:50 LeeF: we need to show "wide review" 15:12:22 ... don't know if we can show "wide review" based on earlier comments 15:12:24 I am just curious, what is the max allowed length of a language-tag? 15:13:01 Thanks DanC 15:13:07 Gracias DanC 15:13:14 LeeF: big shout out to DanC for all his work 15:13:34 patH: we need to send him sincerest condolances for his new role 15:13:53 Adjourned at 15:13Z 15:13:54 -Orri_Erling 15:13:56 -Souri_Das 15:13:58 -PatH 15:14:05 -EliasT 15:14:11 -jeen 15:17:25 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:17:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-minutes.html ericP 15:17:36 RRSAgent, please make logs world-visible 15:21:57 -LeeF 15:22:00 -AndyS 15:22:01 -EricP 15:22:03 -SimonR 15:22:04 SW_DAWG()10:30AM has ended 15:22:06 Attendees were +1.201.447.aaaa, LeeF, Orri_Erling, EricP, SimonR, Souri_Das, jeen, EliasT, PatH, AndyS 15:23:42 ericP, can you take care of mailing these minutes out and also moving Elias's minutes from the mailing list to the proper URL? 15:32:53 EliasT has left #dawg 15:47:20 rrsagent, show actions 15:47:20 I see 12 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-actions.rdf : 15:47:20 ACTION: AndyS to incorporate and explain the notion of active graph in section 8 and/or wherever else appropriate [DONE} [1] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-40-19 15:47:20 ACTION: Eric to incorporate text for REDUCED into rq25, including text noting that REDUCED does not play nicely with counting [DONE] [2] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-40-30 15:47:20 ACTION: ericP schedule teleconf for Friday [DONE] [3] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-40-36 15:47:20 ACTION: EricP to run the yacker tool over and annotate the existing tests [4] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-40-45 15:47:20 ACTION: LeeF or EliasT to reply to Bjoern regarding (not) POSTing application/sparql-query documents [CONTINUES] [5] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-40-58 15:47:20 ACTION: LeeF to remember that the wee, lost filter tests should be put [CONTINUES] [6] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-41-58 15:47:20 ACTION: jeen to mark these 22 approved tests as approved [7] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-49-19 15:47:20 ACTION: ericP to add tests along the lines of http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2007JanMar/0079.html to data-r2/syntax-sparql* and send mail so we can approve them next week [8] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-52-21 15:47:20 ACTION: ericP, jeen, or LeeF to update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/README with info on possible results format and on changes to manifest and test vocabularies [9] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T14-57-21 15:47:20 ACTION: ericP to get in touch with SteveH re: setting up an environment to generate an Overview page for tests in data-r2 a la http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/DataAccess/tests/ [10] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T15-01-27 15:47:20 ACTION: ericP to commit batch updates to out-of-date tests [11] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T15-06-03 15:47:20 ACTION: after ericP commits batch updates to tests, jeen to go through and identify out-of-date tests that shouldn't be migrated to data-r2 [12] 15:47:20 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-dawg-irc#T15-06-22 15:48:19 yeah for an action happy telecon! 15:55:26 rrsagent, thnak you 15:55:26 I'm logging. I don't understand 'thnak you', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:55:32 rrsagent, thank you 15:55:32 I'm logging. I don't understand 'thank you', AndyS. Try /msg RRSAgent help 15:56:29 LeeF: action stations! 15:57:58 :-)