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13:54:17 <ivan> Meeting: SWEO Weekly Telco
13:54:23 <ivan> Chair: Susie
13:55:41 <ivan> ivan has changed the topic to: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sweo-ig/2007Mar/0162.html for dial up info!!!!
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13:57:20 <pasquale> hi ivan, hi all, good morning
13:57:58 <bengee> morning pasquale :)
13:58:07 <bengee> et al, of course ;)
13:58:22 <pasquale> ahah
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14:01:18 <wing> +wing
14:01:25 <ivan> +Ivan
14:01:31 <ivan> +susie
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14:02:57 <bengee> +bengee
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14:03:36 <kidehen> what
14:03:48 <kidehen> what's the dial in as I am getting busy signal
14:04:01 <wing> > Conference date and time are the same of course 
14:04:01 <wing> > Dial in: 1-641-696-6600 
14:04:01 <wing> > US Sprint customers can also use 1-641-696-6610
14:04:01 <wing> > Participant Access code: 79360
14:04:11 <ivan> kingsley, look at the topic!
14:05:17 <kjetilk> "all circuits are now busy"
14:05:20 <kjetilk> :-(
14:06:12 <kidehen> kjetilk needs number
14:06:23 <kidehen> for Europe
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14:07:18 <ivan> kjetil, are you trying zakim?
14:07:23 <ivan> look at the topic!
14:07:45 <kjetilk> ivan: no, I'm trying to freeconference
14:08:00 <kjetilk> hmmm, they don't accept skype calls... :-(
14:08:10 <bengee> worked for me, kjetilk
14:08:36 <kjetilk> it seems they can't read the conference code....
14:08:38 <kidehen> Susie: I sent a mailing list mail re. Info Gathering
14:09:22 <wing> topic: enterprise survey results
14:09:49 <wing> wing: still putting together final report
14:09:55 <ivan> +Kingsley
14:10:38 <wing> topic: use case progress
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14:10:58 <wing> susie: ivan has been posting information to the website
14:11:24 <wing> ivan: finished segala use case conversion, sent back to dave rooks for review
14:12:35 <wing> ivan: 2 possible case studies from FAU
14:12:37 <wing> FAU?
14:13:09 <wing> ivan: there may also be an interesting (and large) meteorological data set
14:13:10 <ivan> FAO
14:13:20 <ivan> UN Food and Agriculture Organization
14:13:29 <wing> thanks, ivan
14:13:37 <Frank> Still unable to dail in with the new number
14:13:45 <wing> susie: received one from chevron, will review
14:14:11 <wing> susie: will start looking at lilly, follow up with epa, boeing
14:14:43 <wing> susie: pfizer as well
14:15:19 <wing> ivan: pfizer has a case study
14:15:28 <wing> +Frank
14:15:32 <wing> +Karen
14:16:15 <kjetilk> sorry, now I'm getting just "called failed", please let me know here on IRC if there is something you want my comment for
14:17:10 <kjetilk> :-)
14:17:44 <wing> topic: chevron use case
14:18:35 <bengee> kjetilk, should I try to skype you in via a conf call?
14:18:58 <bengee> never tried it, but maybe it works
14:19:10 <wing> frank: will send ivan the use case
14:19:17 <kjetilk> bengee: yup, please try!
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14:19:53 <wing> frank: surveyed the oil industry, got six sample applications using SW
14:20:03 <kjetilk> bengee: my skype username is kjetikj
14:20:11 <bengee> 'k
14:20:27 <wing> frank: generalized to two high-level use cases
14:21:25 <wing> ivan: can we get some case studies as well?
14:21:27 <wing> +LeeF
14:21:50 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
14:22:33 <wing> ivan: getting hungry
14:22:38 <wing> ivan: for case studies
14:23:41 <wing> frank: can meet some of the people in person at semantic day
14:24:18 <wing> s/semantic day/sweo f2f
14:24:42 <wing> topic: collateral for european semantic technologies conference
14:25:10 <wing> susie: waiting for dunya to come back 
14:25:24 <wing> topic: sweo logo
14:25:37 <wing> ivan: showed logo to people at w3
14:26:19 <wing> ivan: feedback: logos that include stylized layer cake look like american flag
14:26:25 <Karen> q+
14:28:27 <wing> karen: triple graphic might be too technical
14:28:50 <wing> kidehen: visualization should be based on core concept, which is a network
14:30:26 <wing> susie: also like the international appeal of the globe
14:30:35 <ivan> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas logo idea
14:30:40 <ivan> s/idea/ideas/
14:32:02 <wing> some support for logo #6
14:33:06 <kidehen> bengee: I have a graphic designer that I can connect you with to solve this matter
14:33:22 <wing> ivan: might get too complicated if you try to rearrange letters into a triple formation
14:33:38 <kidehen> bengee: I will send what you've done to him and he can send something back
14:34:00 <kidehen> bengee: send me link to #6
14:34:42 <kidehen> others: http://esw.w3.org/topic/SweoIG/Misc/LogoIdeas
14:36:01 <wing> ivan: map on the globe is inaccurate
14:36:01 <LeeF> LOL
14:36:18 <LeeF> wait, do we get to vote on which parts of the world to have showing on the map?
14:36:57 <LeeF> +1 grey + blue, but...
14:37:03 <LeeF> +20 deferring to people with more aesthetic sense
14:38:29 <Karen> http://www.w3.org/2006/06/LogosW3C.html
14:38:42 <wing> ivan: need to find proper rgb values
14:38:50 <Karen> http://www.w3.org/Press/Group/Brand.html
14:39:35 <Karen>  Web RGB:	R=0, G=90, B=156
14:40:31 <ivan> in hex: #005A9C
14:41:43 <wing> topic: outreach to asia
14:42:10 <wing> susie: outreach to asia is very important
14:42:32 <wing> +YuePan
14:42:38 <bengee> ACTION: bengee to create a new set of logos based on #6 (w3c blue is hex 005a9c / more realistic map / some more font color tests)
14:43:32 <wing> YuePan: several universities with projects
14:44:41 <wing> YuePan: in china, not much adoption of sw by large enterprises
14:45:03 <wing> YuePan: in korea, some company trying to apply SW technologies with telecoms to multimedia management 
14:48:14 <wing> ivan: could stop by beijing on the way over to korea to give a SW tutorial
14:48:53 <ivan> huwai
14:52:09 <Karen> What's huwai?
14:52:20 <Karen> I am familiar with Huawei
14:52:38 <Karen> largest manufacturer of telecommunications equipment in China
14:53:55 <wing> susie: maybe start an informal beijing sw group?
14:54:02 <wing> susie: similar to the one in cambridge
14:54:37 <wing> susie: mailing list for communication, wiki for attendance and demos
14:55:53 <wing> ACTION: Yue to consider starting a SW group in Beijing
14:56:08 <wing> catching up on actions
14:56:37 <wing> ACTION: Frank to send use case to Ivan, Ivan to transform to HTML
14:56:59 <wing> ACTION: Karen to finish draft of enterprise survey report for 4/4
14:57:21 <wing> susie: still need feedback on FAQ
14:57:24 <ivan> s/to Ivan/to Susie for review and then to Ivan/
14:57:29 <Frank> I have already sent use case to Susie.  She will review and then send to Ivan
14:57:46 <wing> ok, thanks ivan and frank
14:59:12 <kidehen> Susie: please send link containing info about event
15:00:01 <wing> susie: will be preparing SWEO SICoP presentation
15:01:01 <wing> SICoP: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoPSpecialConference2_2007_04_25
15:01:24 <ivan> wing, will you clean up the minutes?
15:01:37 <wing> yes, i'll do it
15:01:38 <LeeF> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:01:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/28-SWEO-minutes.html LeeF
15:01:43 <LeeF> rrsagent, make minutes world-access
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