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13:55:13 <r12a> i wasn't going to do that yet ;)
13:55:19 <fsasaki> meeting: i18n core Working Group
13:55:24 <fsasaki> chair: Richard
13:55:27 <fsasaki> scribe: Felix
13:55:33 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0004.html
13:55:47 <r12a> i just sent out a new agenda
13:56:11 <fsasaki> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0014.html
13:56:18 <r12a> note also that text in the agenda is set up for copy paste
13:56:22 <r12a> eg 
13:56:30 <r12a> Meeting: I18n Core telecon
13:56:45 <r12a> and the various Topic: XXX headings
13:57:05 <r12a> back in a sec...
13:58:24 <fsasaki> regrets: Karunesh, Michael, Najib, Ram, Vijay
13:58:31 <fsasaki> rrsagent, make log public
13:58:59 <r12a> Mark also sent regrets
13:59:51 <fsasaki> regrets+ Mark
14:00:24 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
14:00:24 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:00:25 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
14:00:25 <Zakim> +Richard
14:00:43 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
14:00:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard
14:00:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a
14:00:55 <Zakim> +Felix
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14:01:51 <Zakim> +??P18
14:02:51 <Zakim> +??P21
14:03:06 <fsasaki> regrets+ Greg
14:03:23 <r12a> zakim, ??P21 is Andrew
14:03:23 <Zakim> +Andrew; got it
14:03:33 <r12a> zakim, ??P18 is Dave
14:03:33 <Zakim> I already had ??P18 as David, r12a
14:03:47 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
14:03:49 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, Felix, David, Andrew
14:03:51 <Zakim> On IRC I see DavidClarke, RRSAgent, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a
14:04:44 <r12a> Regrets+ Francois
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14:05:39 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
14:05:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, Felix, David, Andrew
14:05:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see najib, DavidClarke, RRSAgent, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a
14:05:46 <r12a> hi najib, will you dial in ?
14:05:47 <najib> Hello to everyone
14:05:57 <najib> No, I'm sorry
14:06:01 <fsasaki> agenda is at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0014.html
14:06:29 <fsasaki> Topic: Welcome
14:06:39 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
14:06:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see Richard, Felix, David, Andrew
14:06:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see najib, DavidClarke, RRSAgent, fsasaki, Zakim, r12a
14:06:43 <fsasaki> Richard: welcome to the new / old core WG!
14:07:19 <fsasaki> Topic: Introductions
14:09:37 <r12a> Topic: Meeting rules
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14:10:01 <fsasaki> Richard: first parts of agenda are really for information sharing
14:10:10 <fsasaki> .. if you have questions we ask it straight away
14:10:23 <fsasaki> .. it it gets into discussion, we put an item on the agenda
14:10:31 <r12a> Topic: Agenda & actions review
14:11:23 <r12a> ACTION: Felix to make updates of LTLI taking Michaels feedback into account DONE
14:11:45 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/core/langtags/#revisionlog
14:12:23 <fsasaki> Felix: see the last two bullets in the change log
14:12:43 <r12a> ACTION: Richard to contact Russ and others to figure out how IE 7 handles display of Punycode and language preference settings DONE
14:13:10 <fsasaki> Richard: have talked to various people, we will go on with the text we have
14:13:22 <r12a> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update ONGOING
14:14:13 <r12a> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to Chris and the i18n core list
14:14:20 <fsasaki> Felix: we'll handle that in the architecture group, AI will be dropped from core 
14:14:59 <fsasaki> .. the same for AI on IRIs and charmod
14:15:07 <r12a> ACTION: Felix to look at the mobileOK document and send Richard's (and possilby more) comments about MobileOK DONE
14:15:23 <r12a> Topic: Info Share
14:17:02 <r12a> felix: mentions joint task force between i18n, CSS and XSL WGs that we are starting up to gather typographic reequirements wrt Japanese
14:17:12 <r12a> ... some invited experts about to join
14:17:29 <r12a> ... FTF meetings to be held regularly every few weeks in Japan in Japanese
14:17:40 <r12a> ... Felix will provide English summaries of meetings
14:17:53 <r12a> ... still planning scope with participating WGs
14:18:03 <r12a> ... next meeting next week
14:19:34 <r12a> Topic: Review of resource publication pipeline & process
14:19:44 <fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/2003/plan.html
14:19:44 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/2003/plan.html
14:22:04 <r12a> Topic: Quick Tips
14:22:15 <r12a> Finalised wording OK for new print run?
14:22:15 <r12a> 	Target: decision for next weeks call.
14:22:15 <r12a> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html
14:22:37 <fsasaki> Richard: some wording proposed as final
14:23:47 <r12a> ACTION: All, look at 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html and raise any comments by email before next telecon
14:24:09 <r12a> Topic: Language Declaration Best Practices
14:24:09 <r12a> 	Ready for publication as a WG Note ?
14:24:09 <r12a> 	Target: decision for next weeks call.
14:24:09 <r12a> 	http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html
14:24:33 <fsasaki> Richard: had a flurry of late comments last week
14:24:45 <fsasaki> .. made changes particulary in sec. 4
14:25:00 <fsasaki> .. may still tweak it a little
14:25:09 <fsasaki> .. Mark Davis is asking why people should worry about this
14:25:29 <fsasaki> .. in sec. 2 we talk about the importance of specifying text processing language
14:25:36 <fsasaki> .. we don't talk about the importance of meta data
14:26:15 <fsasaki> .. I will create another section to say why that is necessary
14:27:05 <r12a> ACTION: All, raise any issues with http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri20050208.095812479 before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish as WG Note
14:27:20 <r12a> Topic: An Introduction to Multilingual Web Addresses, Does it work?
14:27:20 <r12a> 	Ready for publication ?
14:27:20 <r12a> 	Target: decision for next weeks call.
14:27:20 <r12a> 	http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work
14:27:55 <najib> q+
14:27:55 <fsasaki> Richard: discussed it in GEO, we thought it is ready to go
14:28:43 <r12a> ACTION: All, raise any issues with http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish
14:28:51 <r12a> yes najib ?
14:28:55 <najib> Firefox policy (natif URI for trusted TLD, doen't apply to Arabic.
14:29:00 <r12a> ack najib
14:29:09 <najib> Suggest to add a line to the table od tests.
14:29:15 <r12a> ok, thanks najib 
14:29:19 <najib> s/od/of/
14:29:33 <najib> That's all.
14:29:53 <r12a> i believe you sent an email about that, najib?
14:30:00 <najib> Yes
14:30:10 <r12a> ok i'll do something with it
14:30:26 <r12a> Topic: Last call review items & process
14:30:26 <r12a> 	TR list: http://www.w3.org/TR/#last-call
14:30:26 <r12a> 	Review radar: http://www.w3.org/International/core/reviews.html
14:30:26 <r12a> 	Past reviews list: http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/
14:31:09 <r12a> new address for review radar is  http://www.w3.org/International/core/review-radar
14:34:53 <fsasaki> Richard: I'll read GRDDL anyway
14:36:21 <fsasaki> action: Felix to see if a review of http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/ is necessary and possibly start an inital review
14:36:59 <fsasaki> action: Felix to review http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/
14:37:07 <fsasaki> action: Richard to add http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ to the review schedule
14:38:11 <fsasaki> Richard: CSS text is not here, we could look at that
14:38:26 <r12a> 6 March 2007: CSS Text Level 3
14:38:34 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-css3-text-20070306/
14:38:55 <fsasaki> Richard: we need to intersect ASAP with this
14:39:37 <fsasaki> at this point: anybody who wants to take a look at that and should send in comments to our list for discussion
14:41:09 <r12a> Topic: MobileOK comments
14:41:09 <r12a> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0009.html
14:41:09 <r12a> 	Any more comments? Next steps?
14:42:39 <fsasaki> Richard: we should stick to the standard process to send comments to the public list
14:43:08 <fsasaki> Felix: agree, I should have sent a mail to a member list asking for review period extension, and later sent the comments to their public ML
14:43:32 <fsasaki> Richard: Felix is busy with various stuff now, I'll take over and create a comment table on a separate page
14:43:51 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/
14:43:57 <fsasaki> .. you can find examples of previous reviews at the page above
14:44:55 <r12a> Topic: Comments on XML Schema from i18n
14:44:55 <r12a> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0001.html
14:46:45 <fsasaki> Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and summarize the possibly for our group
14:46:53 <fsasaki> action: Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and summarize the possibly for our group
14:47:06 <r12a> Request for feedback from XQuery WG
14:47:06 <r12a> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Mar/0003.html
14:47:06 <r12a> 	full text search taskforce
14:56:08 <fsasaki> Richard: In Thai, you would not eliminate spaces normally
14:56:28 <fsasaki> David: also in the other South East Asian languages
14:56:44 <fsasaki> .. in theory you don't have spaces between words, but might have zero-width spaces
14:58:39 <r12a> Comments on CCXML
14:58:39 <r12a> 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2007Feb/0004.html
14:59:39 <fsasaki> action: Felix to go back to XQuery saying that there might be issues with various languages and we will come back to them
15:01:13 <Zakim> -David
15:01:17 <Zakim> -Andrew
15:01:18 <Zakim> -Richard
15:01:19 <Zakim> -Felix
15:01:22 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
15:01:23 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, Felix, David, Andrew
15:01:27 <fsasaki> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:01:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-minutes.html fsasaki
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15:20:46 <fsasaki> rrsagent, bye
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> I see 13 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-actions.rdf :
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to make updates of LTLI taking Michaels feedback into account DONE [1]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-11-23
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard to contact Russ and others to figure out how IE 7 handles display of Punycode and language preference settings DONE [2]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-12-43
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: all to give feedback on LTLI update ONGOING [3]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-13-22
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to write a mail about possibility for SVG tiny specific IRI tests to Chris and the i18n core list [4]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-14-13
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to look at the mobileOK document and send Richard's (and possilby more) comments about MobileOK DONE [5]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-15-07
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: All, look at 	http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-geo/2007Feb/0020.html and raise any comments by email before next telecon [6]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-23-47
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: All, raise any issues with http://www.w3.org/International/geo/html-tech/tech-lang.html#ri20050208.095812479 before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish as WG Note [7]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-27-05
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: All, raise any issues with http://www.w3.org/International/articles/idn-and-iri/temp.php#work before next telecon, so we can take a decision to publish [8]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-28-43
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to see if a review of http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-XMLHttpRequest-20070227/ is necessary and possibly start an inital review [9]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-36-21
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to review http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ [10]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-36-59
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard to add http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xforms11-20070222/ to the review schedule [11]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-37-07
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix: to look into the xml schema comments and summarize the possibly for our group [12]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-46-53
15:20:46 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Felix to go back to XQuery saying that there might be issues with various languages and we will come back to them [13]
15:20:46 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/20-core-irc#T14-59-39
15:20:49 <fsasaki> zakim, bye
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