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<bengee> zaki, P9 is bengee
<LeeF> ScribeNick: LeeF
<scribe> ScribeNick: wing
susie: maybe it should be a
general SW flyer
... can be used at other events too
... start with general introduction, then talk about
application areas, then highlight brief examples. short and
high-level.
martind: should it include a use case?
susie: look at FAQ, list of existing use cases for ideas
dewinger: something that is fluffy and looks nice?
orri: how about a slogan?
<martind> +1
orri: along the lines of integrating content, making new things possible
<kjetilk> sorry, skype doesn't want my money... :-(
<scribe> ACTION: dewinger to put together a first draft of the flyer [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/14-SWEO-minutes.html#action01]
<PaulaP> I'm on vacation between 22.03- 05.04.2007
<bengee> http://bnode.org/media/2007/03/13/sweo_logo_scribblings_2007_03_13.gif
<bengee> http://bnode.org/media/2007/03/10/sweo_logo_scribblings_2007_03_10.gif
<kjetilk> please let me know when the community projects are on the agenda, and I will attempt to call using a regular phone
<PaulaP> +1 to have a logo
bengee: will try to create a few more variations, welcome feedback
<Susie> Kjetil, could you dial in at 10.40am ET
susie: draft of oracle and
siderean written, approved by oracle pr, waiting for approval
from siderean
... ordnance survey use case received
<bengee> ACTION: bengee to create some additional logo variations for further discussion [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/14-SWEO-minutes.html#action02]
thanks, bengee
<bengee> :)
<kjetilk> Susie: ok
susie: several deadlines for
submission these few days
... discussing use case format with karen (and ivan)
<LeeF> wing: Met with Karen and looked at survey data once more (esp. textual responses)
<LeeF> ... "describe the semantic web to your manager" - in retrospect the question was confusing because some people have technical managers
Describe SW to your manager.
29 web-based
17 reasoning
16 meaningful data
14 data representation
14 data integration
13 machine understanding
9 standards
9 dataweb
8 automatic processing
7 search
5 data exchange
4 emerging
3 reduce ambiguity
2 self describing data
2 ontology driven
2 km
2 deals with data overload
2 enhanceddecisionsupport
1 xml
1 taxonomy
1 tagging
1 structured data
1 efficient
<LeeF> wing: many people see the Semantic Web as an extension of the current Web and something that has to be built on top of existing Web pages
<LeeF> ... also many people look towards reasoning and agents as key to SW
<LeeF> ... also interesting was the disadvantages
Disadvantages
9 no employees with skills
7 no industrial strength offerings
7 immaturity
6 complicated
5 slow adoption
4 large upfront investment
3 too academic
3 not tangible
2 poor performance
2 no critical mass
1 standards too broad
1 security
1 owl overhyped
1 ontologies hard to build
1 no standards
1 none
1 no killer app
1 no funding
1 need t combine business and it
<PaulaP> bye
<kjetilk> bye!
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