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13:25:49 <shadi> zakim, this will be tsd
13:25:49 <Zakim> ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start 55 minutes ago
13:26:40 <shadi> meeting: TSD TF
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13:27:04 <shadi> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0009.html
13:27:16 <shadi> chair: CarlosV, Christophe
13:27:23 <shadi> regrets: Tim
13:28:04 <shadi> agenda+ Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG
13:28:15 <shadi> agenda+ Final review of the review process document
13:28:26 <shadi> agenda+ Review of example entries based on currently available test samples
13:28:26 <shadi> and reviews
13:28:39 <shadi> agenda+ New tests from BenToWeb team
13:29:05 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
13:29:07 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:29:56 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
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13:33:20 <CarlosV> I have the same problem
13:34:54 <shadi> zakim, do you have room for 8?
13:34:56 <Zakim> ok, shadi; conference Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1434Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked
13:35:22 <Zakim> -Shadi
13:35:23 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:35:25 <Zakim> WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
13:35:27 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe
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13:36:08 <Zakim> Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z has now started
13:36:10 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:36:16 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
13:36:18 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
13:36:19 <Zakim> +Christophe_Strobbe
13:36:22 <Zakim> +CarlosV
13:36:40 <Zakim> +Vangelis_Karkaletsis
13:37:21 <Zakim> + +43.702.468.aaaa
13:40:58 <Zakim> +nacho
13:41:06 <shadi> agenda?
13:41:11 <CarlosI> zakim, nacho is really CarlosI
13:41:14 <Zakim> +CarlosI; got it
13:42:24 <shadi> scribe: Vangelis
13:42:40 <Vangelis> Zakim, take up agendum 1
13:42:40 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG" taken up [from shadi]
13:43:01 <shadi> regrets: Tim, Michael
13:43:28 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0002.html
13:43:42 <Vangelis> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0002.html
13:44:18 <Vangelis> CV: summarize thread
13:45:18 <Vangelis> SAZ: the mailing list might not be good place to store issues - better store in tracking system
13:45:46 <Zakim> -CarlosV
13:46:51 <Vangelis> SAZ: should keep discussion in our mailing list - keep it in one mailing list
13:47:41 <Zakim> + +49.224.114.aabb
13:47:48 <Vangelis> CS: refer to before raised to WCAG or after?
13:48:08 <Christophe> zakim, +49 is CarlosV
13:48:08 <Zakim> +CarlosV; got it
13:48:55 <Vangelis> SAZ: all in one mailing list 
13:49:53 <Vangelis> CV: everybody lese in gl mailing list?
13:50:39 <Vangelis> CV: dont have many resources - need be efficient
13:51:49 <Vangelis> SAZ: skip for now. sending to WCAG does not help now. Document issues somewhere and then point them there
13:52:37 <Vangelis> SAZ: time for time just send summary
13:53:03 <Vangelis> SAZ: just to be aware of this work
13:54:28 <Vangelis> CV: how update wiki page? leave link for later?
13:55:01 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/CoverageIssues
13:56:28 <Vangelis> CV: similar template with review but can come from authors too
13:57:53 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList
13:58:11 <Vangelis> SAZ: can this be integrated to status list somehow ?
13:59:40 <Vangelis> SAZ: could be in the status column
14:01:00 <Vangelis> SAZ: add another column (issue) and in column link the template - staff need to comm to wcag
14:04:15 <Vangelis> SAZ: if there are open issues need to come to resolution-> this is recorded in issues for wcag wg
14:04:37 <Vangelis> CV: if the issue come from the author it come in the beginning
14:05:14 <Vangelis> SAZ: whenever it comes it needs a TF resolution
14:06:57 <Vangelis> SAZ: if author has a comment about WCAG work this needs to be raised to wcag list not here
14:08:16 <Vangelis> CV: talking about someone from TF
14:09:41 <Vangelis> SAZ: put that in metadata - on review discuss in TF if this issue need to be raised to wcag
14:11:28 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL
14:12:04 <Vangelis> CS: use expected result 
14:13:36 <Vangelis> CS: and document it in tech comments
14:14:04 <Christophe> For example, use expectedResult (cannotTell/pass/fail) attribute on location element, and document issue in techComment element.
14:15:10 <Vangelis> SAZ: unclear what the result will be
14:21:21 <Vangelis> SAZ: for now skip and just use techComment field
14:21:50 <shadi> RESOLUTION: if the test sample *author* identifies a potential issue, then add a comment in the techComment field of the metadata
14:23:51 <Vangelis> SAZ: an entry for content review : responsible to raise the issue
14:26:36 <shadi> action: CV to create an issues template in the wiki
14:27:15 <shadi> action: CS to add an "issues" coloumn to the status list
14:28:17 <shadi> action: CS to add description for the techComment field in the metadata document
14:29:04 <shadi> action: SAZ update the checklist for content review to reflect raising issues
14:29:39 <shadi> action: SAZ update step 3 of the process document to reflect raising issues
14:29:58 <shadi> agenda?
14:30:16 <shadi> zakim, close agendum 1
14:30:16 <Zakim> agendum 1, Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG, closed
14:30:17 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:30:19 <Zakim> 2. Final review of the review process document [from shadi]
14:31:44 <shadi> action: EV and DO to add their uploaded test sample to the status list#
14:33:56 <shadi> action: CI to repeat the reviews but this time using the wiki and updated documents
14:35:08 <shadi> action: CV to get in contact with non-BenToWeb'ers and get them to review test samples
14:35:51 <shadi> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/testopia/
14:36:53 <shadi> next mereting: Tuesday 27 March
14:36:59 <Zakim> -Vangelis_Karkaletsis
14:37:01 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:37:02 <Zakim> -CarlosI
14:37:02 <Zakim> - +43.702.468.aaaa
14:37:04 <Zakim> -Christophe_Strobbe
14:37:06 <Zakim> -CarlosV
14:37:08 <Zakim> Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z has ended
14:37:09 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, Vangelis_Karkaletsis, +43.702.468.aaaa, CarlosI, +49.224.114.aabb
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