IRC log of tsdtf on 2007-03-13
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- 13:25:49 [shadi]
- zakim, this will be tsd
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- ok, shadi; I see WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM scheduled to start 55 minutes ago
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- meeting: TSD TF
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- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0009.html
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- chair: CarlosV, Christophe
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- regrets: Tim
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- agenda+ Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG
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- agenda+ Final review of the review process document
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- agenda+ Review of example entries based on currently available test samples
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- and reviews
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- agenda+ New tests from BenToWeb team
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- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has now started
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- +Shadi
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- I have the same problem
- 13:34:54 [shadi]
- zakim, do you have room for 8?
- 13:34:56 [Zakim]
- ok, shadi; conference Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1434Z; however, please note that capacity is now overbooked
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- -Shadi
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- WAI_TSDTF()8:30AM has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe
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- Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z has now started
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- +Shadi
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- +Christophe_Strobbe
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- +CarlosV
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- +Vangelis_Karkaletsis
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- + +43.702.468.aaaa
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- +nacho
- 13:41:06 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 13:41:11 [CarlosI]
- zakim, nacho is really CarlosI
- 13:41:14 [Zakim]
- +CarlosI; got it
- 13:42:24 [shadi]
- scribe: Vangelis
- 13:42:40 [Vangelis]
- Zakim, take up agendum 1
- 13:42:40 [Zakim]
- agendum 1. "Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG" taken up [from shadi]
- 13:43:01 [shadi]
- regrets: Tim, Michael
- 13:43:28 [shadi]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0002.html
- 13:43:42 [Vangelis]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert-tsdtf/2007Mar/0002.html
- 13:44:18 [Vangelis]
- CV: summarize thread
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- SAZ: the mailing list might not be good place to store issues - better store in tracking system
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- -CarlosV
- 13:46:51 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: should keep discussion in our mailing list - keep it in one mailing list
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- + +49.224.114.aabb
- 13:47:48 [Vangelis]
- CS: refer to before raised to WCAG or after?
- 13:48:08 [Christophe]
- zakim, +49 is CarlosV
- 13:48:08 [Zakim]
- +CarlosV; got it
- 13:48:55 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: all in one mailing list
- 13:49:53 [Vangelis]
- CV: everybody lese in gl mailing list?
- 13:50:39 [Vangelis]
- CV: dont have many resources - need be efficient
- 13:51:49 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: skip for now. sending to WCAG does not help now. Document issues somewhere and then point them there
- 13:52:37 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: time for time just send summary
- 13:53:03 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: just to be aware of this work
- 13:54:28 [Vangelis]
- CV: how update wiki page? leave link for later?
- 13:55:01 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/CoverageIssues
- 13:56:28 [Vangelis]
- CV: similar template with review but can come from authors too
- 13:57:53 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/2006/tsdtf/TestSampleStatusList
- 13:58:11 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: can this be integrated to status list somehow ?
- 13:59:40 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: could be in the status column
- 14:01:00 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: add another column (issue) and in column link the template - staff need to comm to wcag
- 14:04:15 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: if there are open issues need to come to resolution-> this is recorded in issues for wcag wg
- 14:04:37 [Vangelis]
- CV: if the issue come from the author it come in the beginning
- 14:05:14 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: whenever it comes it needs a TF resolution
- 14:06:57 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: if author has a comment about WCAG work this needs to be raised to wcag list not here
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- CV: talking about someone from TF
- 14:09:41 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: put that in metadata - on review discuss in TF if this issue need to be raised to wcag
- 14:11:28 [shadi]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tests/usingTCDL
- 14:12:04 [Vangelis]
- CS: use expected result
- 14:13:36 [Vangelis]
- CS: and document it in tech comments
- 14:14:04 [Christophe]
- For example, use expectedResult (cannotTell/pass/fail) attribute on location element, and document issue in techComment element.
- 14:15:10 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: unclear what the result will be
- 14:21:21 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: for now skip and just use techComment field
- 14:21:50 [shadi]
- RESOLUTION: if the test sample *author* identifies a potential issue, then add a comment in the techComment field of the metadata
- 14:23:51 [Vangelis]
- SAZ: an entry for content review : responsible to raise the issue
- 14:26:36 [shadi]
- action: CV to create an issues template in the wiki
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- action: CS to add an "issues" coloumn to the status list
- 14:28:17 [shadi]
- action: CS to add description for the techComment field in the metadata document
- 14:29:04 [shadi]
- action: SAZ update the checklist for content review to reflect raising issues
- 14:29:39 [shadi]
- action: SAZ update step 3 of the process document to reflect raising issues
- 14:29:58 [shadi]
- agenda?
- 14:30:16 [shadi]
- zakim, close agendum 1
- 14:30:16 [Zakim]
- agendum 1, Reporting coverage issues to WCAG WG, closed
- 14:30:17 [Zakim]
- I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 2. Final review of the review process document [from shadi]
- 14:31:44 [shadi]
- action: EV and DO to add their uploaded test sample to the status list#
- 14:33:56 [shadi]
- action: CI to repeat the reviews but this time using the wiki and updated documents
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- action: CV to get in contact with non-BenToWeb'ers and get them to review test samples
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- http://www.mozilla.org/projects/testopia/
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- next mereting: Tuesday 27 March
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- -Vangelis_Karkaletsis
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- -Shadi
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- -CarlosI
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- -Christophe_Strobbe
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- -CarlosV
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- Team_(tsdtf)13:34Z has ended
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- Attendees were Shadi, Christophe_Strobbe, CarlosV, Vangelis_Karkaletsis, +43.702.468.aaaa, CarlosI, +49.224.114.aabb
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