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12:47:41 <RalphS> Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML TF
12:47:48 <RalphS> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0036.html
12:48:18 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes previous 2007-03-05
12:48:30 <RalphS> rrsagent, please make record public
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12:59:23 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started
12:59:30 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
12:59:38 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is me
12:59:38 <Zakim> +wing; got it
12:59:50 <Zakim> +Ralph
12:59:51 <Zakim> + +043316876aaaa
13:00:08 <RalphS> zakim, aaaa is Michael
13:00:09 <Zakim> +Michael; got it
13:00:27 <RalphS> zakim, nick mhausenblas is Michael
13:00:27 <Zakim> ok, RalphS, I now associate mhausenblas with Michael
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13:02:44 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
13:03:14 <benadida> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:03:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see wing, Ralph, Michael, Ben_Adida
13:03:23 <RalphS> Chair: Ben
13:03:58 <RalphS> Regrets: Simone
13:11:06 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/2 RDFa non-closed issues
13:11:44 <RalphS> [some informal discussion of what examples to include in the test suite]
13:17:47 <benadida> scribenick: wing
13:18:01 <RalphS> [DONE] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
13:18:17 <RalphS> Wing: We've decided to use a subPropertyOf rdfs:seeAlso
13:19:06 <mhausenblas> q+ to contemplate on TC ...
13:19:18 <RalphS> Ben: it will link to the most current telecon record or archived mail message
13:19:24 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0022.html Test Suite - next steps
13:19:30 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0029.html Proposal for test process
13:20:58 <Zakim> +Elias_Torres
13:22:38 <wing> Ben: use the seeAlso subproperty for more controversial tests going forward
13:23:11 <wing> Elias: should get official approval of existing tests
13:23:31 <wing> ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests
13:24:25 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]
13:24:36 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/#sec4  RDF features not supported by RDFa
13:24:49 <Simone> Simone has joined #rdfa
13:25:12 <wing> Ben: List of RDF-XML features not supported in RDFa might be short, but TimBL wants one
13:26:14 <wing> Ben: should include examples of these features
13:26:26 <wing> Elias: collections?
13:26:30 <Simone> Zakim, passcode?
13:26:30 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone
13:27:19 <wing> Ben: not solved yet, XHTML2 allows hrefs inside list elements (ol/ul/li), details haven't been worked out yet
13:28:20 <wing> Michael: should look at use cases first, see if there is demand
13:28:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:29:06 <wing> Ben: ordering is important, for example, ordered list of authors / news items
13:29:12 <RalphS> zakim, ipcaller is Simone
13:29:13 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
13:29:40 <wing> Ben: use case is Bibtex
13:31:22 <wing> Michael: what about XHTML2?
13:31:50 <wing> Ben: XHTML2 extensibility encouraged but not required
13:32:22 <wing> Ben: RDFa is in their charter as an example extension
13:33:04 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2003/08/rdf-in-xhtml-charter.html
13:38:07 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/
13:38:30 <wing> ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page
13:38:49 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
13:39:14 <wing> [DONE] ACTION: Ben to update RDFa schedule on wiki to aim for last call on June 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action09]
13:39:43 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
13:42:03 <wing> ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa
13:42:16 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
13:42:20 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]
13:42:24 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
13:42:38 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to prepare RDF/XML - RDFa comparison wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/12-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]
13:42:46 <mhausenblas> -> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa
13:43:03 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
13:43:28 <wing> Michael: thanks to Simone for comments
13:44:45 <wing> ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki
13:45:03 <wing> [PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
13:45:14 <RalphS> q+ to propose a test re: issue-11
13:45:33 <mhausenblas> ack Michael
13:45:33 <Zakim> Michael, you wanted to contemplate on TC ...
13:45:52 <RalphS> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/11 ISSUE-11
13:46:26 <wing> RalphS: we need to go through all of the issues before publication
13:46:40 <RalphS> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html Elias'
13:47:39 <RalphS> Ralph: Elias' message highlights a good example of a possible test case
13:49:44 <wing> ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html
13:50:13 <wing> ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved
13:51:32 <wing> Elias: What about DTDs in test cases?
13:51:57 <wing> Ben: Tests should declare XHTML1.1 module
13:53:50 <mhausenblas> q+ to propose a little work on RDFa with any HTML
13:55:25 <Zakim> -Elias_Torres
13:55:35 <mhausenblas> ack RalphS
13:55:35 <Zakim> RalphS, you wanted to propose a test re: issue-11
13:55:55 <Zakim> +Elias_Torres
13:56:21 <mhausenblas> ack Michael
13:56:21 <Zakim> Michael, you wanted to propose a little work on RDFa with any HTML
13:56:26 <wing> Elias: easy to tell when RDFa is being used with XHTML1.1 (since it's a module), but what about HTML/XHTML2?
13:56:54 <wing> ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML
13:58:49 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:58:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
13:59:19 <Zakim> -Ralph
13:59:23 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make minutes public
13:59:23 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', mhausenblas.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:59:34 <benadida> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule
14:00:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public 
14:02:04 <Zakim> -Elias_Torres
14:02:53 <mhausenblas> present+ Elias
14:03:10 <mhausenblas> present+ Simone
14:03:21 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:03:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
14:04:04 <mhausenblas> present+ Ralph
14:04:29 <mhausenblas> present + Michael
14:04:40 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:04:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
14:05:14 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:05:35 <mhausenblas> present+ Wing
14:05:43 <mhausenblas> present Ben
14:05:47 <mhausenblas> present+ Ben
14:05:53 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:06:13 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
14:10:48 <Zakim> -wing
14:10:49 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
14:10:50 <Zakim> -Simone
14:10:53 <Zakim> -Michael
14:10:55 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended
14:10:55 <mhausenblas> bye!
14:10:56 <Zakim> Attendees were wing, Ralph, +043316876aaaa, Michael, Ben_Adida, Elias_Torres, Simone
14:11:17 <wing> michael took care of everything with the minutes, right?
14:11:25 <wing> my scribing duties are over?
14:11:31 <benadida> Actually, you're supposed to take the minutes
14:11:37 <benadida> and edit them for any weird things that come up
14:11:38 <benadida> in HTML
14:11:41 <benadida> then mail that file to Ralph
14:11:44 <wing> ok
14:11:51 <benadida> thanks!
14:12:20 <wing> no problem
14:12:24 <Simone> thanks :)
14:12:33 <wing> so you're missing tomorrow's cambridge sw meeting?
14:12:41 <benadida> yes, sadly
14:13:05 <Simone> also I, I'll depart tomorrow :(
14:13:11 <benadida> I'm doing a 24-hour trip to the west coast. I hate those.
14:13:14 <wing> oh jeez
14:13:17 <wing> those are exhausting
14:13:27 <wing> we'll catch up when you get back; good luck with the match!
14:13:33 <benadida> thanks!
14:13:57 <Simone> Good trip Ben ;)
14:14:31 <benadida> thanks! talk to you next week.
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14:16:24 <Simone> Hi Wing, I'm going to another office, so have a fine day :)
14:16:50 <wing> wing has left #rdfa
15:12:24 <RalphS> zakim, bye
15:12:24 <Zakim> Zakim has left #rdfa
15:12:32 <RalphS> rrsagent, bye
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-actions.rdf :
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [1]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-23-31
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page [2]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-38-30
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa [3]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-42-03
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki [4]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-44-45
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [5]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-49-44
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [6]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-50-13
15:12:32 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML [7]
15:12:32 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-56-54