IRC log of rdfa on 2007-03-12

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12:47:41 [RalphS]

Meeting: RDF-in-XHTML TF

12:47:48 [RalphS]

Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0036.html

12:48:18 [RalphS]

-> http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes previous 2007-03-05

12:48:30 [RalphS]

rrsagent, please make record public

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12:59:23 [Zakim]

SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started

12:59:30 [Zakim]

+[IBMCambridge]

12:59:38 [wing]

zakim, IBMCambridge is me

12:59:38 [Zakim]

+wing; got it

12:59:50 [Zakim]

+Ralph

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+ +043316876aaaa

13:00:08 [RalphS]

zakim, aaaa is Michael

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+Michael; got it

13:00:27 [RalphS]

zakim, nick mhausenblas is Michael

13:00:27 [Zakim]

ok, RalphS, I now associate mhausenblas with Michael

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+Ben_Adida

13:03:14 [benadida]

zakim, who is on the phone?

13:03:14 [Zakim]

On the phone I see wing, Ralph, Michael, Ben_Adida

13:03:23 [RalphS]

Chair: Ben

13:03:58 [RalphS]

Regrets: Simone

13:11:06 [RalphS]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/products/2 RDFa non-closed issues

13:11:44 [RalphS]

[some informal discussion of what examples to include in the test suite]

13:17:47 [benadida]

scribenick: wing

13:18:01 [RalphS]

[DONE] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

13:18:17 [RalphS]

Wing: We've decided to use a subPropertyOf rdfs:seeAlso

13:19:06 [mhausenblas]

q+ to contemplate on TC ...

13:19:18 [RalphS]

Ben: it will link to the most current telecon record or archived mail message

13:19:24 [mhausenblas]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0022.html Test Suite - next steps

13:19:30 [mhausenblas]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Mar/0029.html Proposal for test process

13:20:58 [Zakim]

+Elias_Torres

13:22:38 [wing]

Ben: use the seeAlso subproperty for more controversial tests going forward

13:23:11 [wing]

Elias: should get official approval of existing tests

13:23:31 [wing]

ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests

13:24:25 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]

13:24:36 [mhausenblas]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/#sec4 RDF features not supported by RDFa

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13:25:12 [wing]

Ben: List of RDF-XML features not supported in RDFa might be short, but TimBL wants one

13:26:14 [wing]

Ben: should include examples of these features

13:26:26 [wing]

Elias: collections?

13:26:30 [Simone]

Zakim, passcode?

13:26:30 [Zakim]

the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone

13:27:19 [wing]

Ben: not solved yet, XHTML2 allows hrefs inside list elements (ol/ul/li), details haven't been worked out yet

13:28:20 [wing]

Michael: should look at use cases first, see if there is demand

13:28:46 [Zakim]

+[IPcaller]

13:29:06 [wing]

Ben: ordering is important, for example, ordered list of authors / news items

13:29:12 [RalphS]

zakim, ipcaller is Simone

13:29:13 [Zakim]

+Simone; got it

13:29:40 [wing]

Ben: use case is Bibtex

13:31:22 [wing]

Michael: what about XHTML2?

13:31:50 [wing]

Ben: XHTML2 extensibility encouraged but not required

13:32:22 [wing]

Ben: RDFa is in their charter as an example extension

13:33:04 [mhausenblas]

-> http://www.w3.org/2003/08/rdf-in-xhtml-charter.html

13:38:07 [mhausenblas]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/

13:38:30 [wing]

ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page

13:38:49 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

13:39:14 [wing]

[DONE] ACTION: Ben to update RDFa schedule on wiki to aim for last call on June 1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action09]

13:39:43 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

13:42:03 [wing]

ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa

13:42:16 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]

13:42:20 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce RDFa XHTML 1.1 module and spec [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/18-htmltf-minutes.html#action06]

13:42:24 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Mark to put M12N schema up somewhere, and tell us where [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/29-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

13:42:38 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to prepare RDF/XML - RDFa comparison wiki page [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/12-htmltf-minutes.html#action09]

13:42:46 [mhausenblas]

-> http://esw.w3.org/topic/RDFa

13:43:03 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Michael continue work on the FAQ template that Elias started [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/08-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

13:43:28 [wing]

Michael: thanks to Simone for comments

13:44:45 [wing]

ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki

13:45:03 [wing]

[PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

13:45:14 [RalphS]

q+ to propose a test re: issue-11

13:45:33 [mhausenblas]

ack Michael

13:45:33 [Zakim]

Michael, you wanted to contemplate on TC ...

13:45:52 [RalphS]

-> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/11 ISSUE-11

13:46:26 [wing]

RalphS: we need to go through all of the issues before publication

13:46:40 [RalphS]

-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html Elias'

13:47:39 [RalphS]

Ralph: Elias' message highlights a good example of a possible test case

13:49:44 [wing]

ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html

13:50:13 [wing]

ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved

13:51:32 [wing]

Elias: What about DTDs in test cases?

13:51:57 [wing]

Ben: Tests should declare XHTML1.1 module

13:53:50 [mhausenblas]

q+ to propose a little work on RDFa with any HTML

13:55:25 [Zakim]

-Elias_Torres

13:55:35 [mhausenblas]

ack RalphS

13:55:35 [Zakim]

RalphS, you wanted to propose a test re: issue-11

13:55:55 [Zakim]

+Elias_Torres

13:56:21 [mhausenblas]

ack Michael

13:56:21 [Zakim]

Michael, you wanted to propose a little work on RDFa with any HTML

13:56:26 [wing]

Elias: easy to tell when RDFa is being used with XHTML1.1 (since it's a module), but what about HTML/XHTML2?

13:56:54 [wing]

ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML

13:58:49 [mhausenblas]

rrsagent, draft minutes

13:58:49 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

13:59:19 [Zakim]

-Ralph

13:59:23 [mhausenblas]

rrsagent, make minutes public

13:59:23 [RRSAgent]

I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', mhausenblas. Try /msg RRSAgent help

13:59:34 [benadida]

http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa#RDFa_schedule

14:00:02 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, make logs public

14:02:04 [Zakim]

-Elias_Torres

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present+ Elias

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present+ Simone

14:03:21 [mhausenblas]

rrsagent, draft minutes

14:03:21 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:04:04 [mhausenblas]

present+ Ralph

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present + Michael

14:04:40 [mhausenblas]

rrsagent, draft minutes

14:04:40 [RRSAgent]

I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:05:14 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, make logs public

14:05:35 [mhausenblas]

present+ Wing

14:05:43 [mhausenblas]

present Ben

14:05:47 [mhausenblas]

present+ Ben

14:05:53 [mhausenblas]

RRSAgent, make logs public

14:06:13 [mhausenblas]

rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas

14:10:48 [Zakim]

-wing

14:10:49 [Zakim]

-Ben_Adida

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-Simone

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-Michael

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SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended

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bye!

14:10:56 [Zakim]

Attendees were wing, Ralph, +043316876aaaa, Michael, Ben_Adida, Elias_Torres, Simone

14:11:17 [wing]

michael took care of everything with the minutes, right?

14:11:25 [wing]

my scribing duties are over?

14:11:31 [benadida]

Actually, you're supposed to take the minutes

14:11:37 [benadida]

and edit them for any weird things that come up

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in HTML

14:11:41 [benadida]

then mail that file to Ralph

14:11:44 [wing]

ok

14:11:51 [benadida]

thanks!

14:12:20 [wing]

no problem

14:12:24 [Simone]

thanks :)

14:12:33 [wing]

so you're missing tomorrow's cambridge sw meeting?

14:12:41 [benadida]

yes, sadly

14:13:05 [Simone]

also I, I'll depart tomorrow :(

14:13:11 [benadida]

I'm doing a 24-hour trip to the west coast. I hate those.

14:13:14 [wing]

oh jeez

14:13:17 [wing]

those are exhausting

14:13:27 [wing]

we'll catch up when you get back; good luck with the match!

14:13:33 [benadida]

thanks!

14:13:57 [Simone]

Good trip Ben ;)

14:14:31 [benadida]

thanks! talk to you next week.

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14:16:24 [Simone]

Hi Wing, I'm going to another office, so have a fine day :)

14:16:50 [wing]

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15:12:24 [RalphS]

zakim, bye

15:12:24 [Zakim]

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15:12:32 [RalphS]

rrsagent, bye

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

I see 7 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-actions.rdf :

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ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [1]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-23-31

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ACTION: Ralph to update archive header page [2]

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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-38-30

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben to get back in touch with Ian about eRDF/RDFa [3]

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-42-03

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Simone to update FAQ wiki [4]

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-44-45

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Wing to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0008.html [5]

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-49-44

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [6]

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-50-13

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

ACTION: Michael to put together a table with RDFa / XHTML1.1/2 / HTML [7]

15:12:32 [RRSAgent]

recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-irc#T13-56-54