IRC log of swd on 2007-03-06

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15:51:45 [RalphS]: Meeting: SWD WG
15:51:48 [RalphS]: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Mar/0021.html
15:51:57 [RalphS]: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html previous 2007002-27
15:52:04 [RalphS]: rrsagent, please make record public
15:52:24 [TomB]: TomB has joined #swd
15:53:18 [RalphS]: Regrets: Daniel, Guus, Bernard
15:57:53 [Zakim]: SW_SWD()11:00AM has now started
15:58:00 [Zakim]: +Jan
15:58:24 [Zakim]: +Ralph
15:59:30 [Zakim]: +??P34
15:59:46 [Elisa]: Elisa has joined #swd
16:00:44 [JonP]: JonP has joined #swd
16:01:51 [Zakim]: +JonP
16:02:07 [Simone]: Zakim, code please?
16:02:08 [Zakim]: the conference code is 79394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone
16:02:09 [Zakim]: +Elisa_Kendall
16:03:09 [RalphS]: Scribe: Elisa
16:03:22 [RalphS]: Scribenick: Elisa
16:03:37 [seanb]: seanb has joined #swd
16:03:43 [RalphS]: Chair: Tom
16:04:08 [Zakim]: +??P9
16:04:10 [berrueta]: berrueta has joined #swd
16:04:17 [Simone]: Zakim, P9 is Simone
16:04:20 [Zakim]: sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
16:04:26 [RalphS]: Regrets+ Alistair
16:04:30 [Simone]: Zakim, ??P9 is Simone
16:04:31 [Zakim]: +Simone; got it
16:04:37 [Zakim]: +??P53
16:04:57 [RalphS]: zakim, ??p53 is Sean
16:04:57 [Zakim]: +Sean; got it
16:05:00 [Zakim]: +Rodrigo
16:05:03 [berrueta]: zakim, Rodrigo is me
16:05:05 [Zakim]: +berrueta; got it
16:06:09 [Zakim]: +Ben_Adida
16:06:16 [Elisa]: The next two telecons are 1 hour earlier in Europe -- reminder for those in the Amsterdam time zone.
16:06:22 [benadida]: benadida has joined #SWD
16:06:23 [Elisa]: Time in the US will remain unchanged.
16:06:45 [Elisa]: Propose we accept minutes of Feb 22 telecon (Tom, Ralph second)
16:07:09 [Elisa]: Resolved, accepted minutes of http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html
16:07:35 [Elisa]: Ralph to check on whether tracker is in "big brother" mode...
16:08:02 [Elisa]: Ralph: tracker was not set up for us, but he can set it up so that tracker follows our telecons.
16:08:34 [Elisa]: Jon noticed that mail messages that should have been linked automatically to our actions was not working as we might have thought.
16:08:54 [Elisa]: There is also an IRC bot for tracker. Tracker also does actions - not sure that the current way we are tracking
16:09:05 [Elisa]: actions ... whether tracker would interfere.
16:09:32 [Elisa]: Sounds like we probably do want issues / mail to be tracked and automatically linked in.
16:09:51 [Elisa]: Thus, new action to Ralph to have tracker watch our mailing list.
16:10:05 [Elisa]: Also, if not too much trouble, to have tracker watch the IRC.
16:10:13 [RalphS]: ACTION: Ralph get tracker to watch public-swd-wg@w3.org
16:10:30 [Elisa]: ACTION: Ralph to check if Tracker is in BigBrother mode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html#action15] (DONE)
16:11:00 [Elisa]: F2F Meeting -- action on Guus continues as to whether Amsterdam can be the venue.
16:11:22 [Elisa]: Few people have responded so far with availability. We need to figure out whether or not we have sufficient
16:11:30 [RalphS]: [I may have to change my availability for the first week of June -- I might not be available after all :( ]
16:11:58 [Elisa]: work to justify a f2f, then we need to find a date. Tom is thinking perhaps of waiting another week to determine who
16:12:20 [Elisa]: could potentially attend a meeting, and in parallel we need to determine whether a meeting is necessary.
16:12:36 [Elisa]: Tom encourages people to respond to the questionnaire.
16:12:51 [RalphS]: -> http://www.doodle.ch/dpjcUdKafyN9 June Meeting poll
16:13:46 [Elisa]: Perhaps change the question -- if we meet in EU, are you available in principle; if we meet in US, are you available in principle.
16:13:53 [Elisa]: May want to ask about other weeks as well.
16:14:12 [Elisa]: Tom to pose questions - action on Tom to formulate questions, Ralph will set up WBS.
16:15:00 [Elisa]: Postponed SKOS to end of call
16:15:00 [RalphS]: -> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/showwb Web-Based Straw-poll and balloting system
16:15:09 [Elisa]: Recipes: no outstanding actions
16:15:24 [Elisa]: Jon - has a couple of actions in tracker, but no comments at this time
16:15:53 [RalphS]: ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft, add comments, and coordinate work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06]
16:16:01 [RalphS]: -- done
16:16:12 [RalphS]: Elisa: I did contact Siggy Handsuch
16:16:22 [RalphS]: ... summarizing state of the draft is not yet complete
16:16:45 [RalphS]: ... we're hoping for someone from DERI to contribute to this
16:17:22 [RalphS]: ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft and add comments
16:17:41 [RalphS]: CTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:17:41 [RalphS]: ACTION: Elisa to contact S. Handschuh [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html#action12]
16:17:44 [RalphS]: -- continues
16:17:54 [RalphS]: action -5
16:18:13 [RalphS]: s/continues/done
16:18:14 [RalphS]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14]
16:18:14 [RalphS]: ACTION: Elisa to contact S. Handschuh [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html#action12]
16:18:34 [RalphS]: action -7
16:19:13 [RalphS]: Recipe issue 1.3 action continues
16:19:24 [RalphS]: Topic: Semantic Integration Note
16:19:47 [RalphS]: Elisa: I've been exchanging lots of email with Natasha Noy and Mike Ushold
16:19:56 [RalphS]: ... there's history about this document that I'm just learning
16:20:02 [RalphS]: ... Chris Welty contacted me about this
16:20:11 [RalphS]: ... Chris Menzel is still willing to assist
16:20:19 [RalphS]: ... Natasha is willing to assist
16:20:27 [RalphS]: ... Natasha sent me a revised editor's draft
16:20:41 [RalphS]: ... I will compare this to the current editor's draft and report which is newer
16:21:16 [RalphS]: ... I hope to post Natasha's new draft in the next couple of days if it is more current
16:23:21 [RalphS]: Topic: RDFa
16:23:26 [RalphS]: zakim, list attendees
16:23:26 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been Jan, Ralph, TomB, JonP, Elisa_Kendall, Simone, Sean, berrueta, Ben_Adida
16:23:46 [Elisa]: There is a request from Ben to vote on the primer and possibly use cases
16:24:02 [Elisa]: the primer has only undergone editorial changes since the last version
16:24:02 [RalphS]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Mar/0037.html Request to Vote on publication of RDFa Primer and Use Case documents [Ben 2007-03-05]
16:24:15 [Antoine]: Antoine has joined #swd
16:24:24 [RalphS]: q+
16:24:25 [Elisa]: use cases have had more change, and perhaps another review is needed
16:24:26 [Zakim]: +guus
16:24:40 [RalphS]: zakim, guus is really Antoine
16:24:41 [Zakim]: +Antoine; got it
16:24:41 [Elisa]: Action: should schedule a vote on this for another call
16:25:07 [Elisa]: Could delay on deciding on the scenarios document.
16:25:23 [Elisa]: Three reviews on the Primer; reviewers are happy with proceeding.
16:25:53 [Elisa]: If Antoine is happy, we could take a vote today. Antoine is comfortable with what was done with his comments.
16:26:21 [Elisa]: Tom: propose we proceed with publication of the RDFa Primer as a working draft.
16:26:39 [Elisa]: Second: elisa
16:26:59 [Elisa]: Resolved: to publish RDFa primer as a working draft.
16:27:55 [Elisa]: On the Use case scenarios, Alistair & Daniel commented, also Guus - would like to to have comments
16:28:16 [Elisa]: on this latest version from the folks who originally reviewed it. Should request to the list that we would like to
16:28:55 [Elisa]: vote as soon as possible on the Use case scenarios; have ok from Guus & Ivan that it's ok to publish
16:29:03 [RalphS]: -> Request to Vote on publication of RDFa Primer and Use Case documents Ivan's reply re Use Cases
16:30:09 [Elisa]: Could request people who already reviewed it to take another look; next week could vote as long as we have Guus
16:30:17 [Elisa]: proxy in time for the meeting.
16:31:09 [Elisa]: Action: on Ben to ping existing reviewers and solicit additional feedback in time for a vote next week.
16:31:39 [Elisa]: Good discussion on what the test cases for RDFa should look like thanks to Michael and Wayne.
16:31:57 [RalphS]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Mar/0038.html 2007-03-05 RDFa telecon record
16:33:36 [Elisa]: SKOS: We need to carry the three actions on Alan forward. And the action on Guus - is done? There has been a lot
16:33:47 [RalphS]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Mar/0020.html Guus
16:34:07 [Elisa]: of discussion over the last week on issue 26. Decided to continue until next week (15 Mar)
16:34:38 [Elisa]: Antoine wants a review of the use case and requirements draft.
16:35:08 [Elisa]: Timescale for review is 2-3 weeks.
16:35:25 [RalphS]: (I note that Siggi writes that he may be able to join this telecon about now; -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Mar/0043.html Joining SWD / Co-editing Vocabulary Management note )
16:35:34 [Elisa]: Action: Elisa and Sean to review
16:35:37 [Antoine]: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/UCRMaterial?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ucr-20070306.html
16:36:29 [Elisa]: Antoine to send latest version to Sean and Elisa; Daniel has made some changes to his use cases, so the version
16:36:34 [RalphS]: s/Siggy Handsuch/Siggi Handschuh/
16:36:39 [Elisa]: pasted in IRC is the latest.
16:38:44 [Elisa]: Suggest that given no other business, we adjourn.
16:38:51 [Zakim]: -Sean
16:38:53 [Zakim]: -Jan
16:38:55 [seanb]: seanb has left #swd
16:38:57 [Zakim]: -JonP
16:38:58 [RalphS]: zakim, list participants
16:38:58 [Zakim]: -berrueta
16:38:59 [Zakim]: -Ben_Adida
16:39:00 [Zakim]: As of this point the attendees have been Jan, Ralph, TomB, JonP, Elisa_Kendall, Simone, Sean, berrueta, Ben_Adida, Antoine
16:39:02 [Zakim]: -Antoine
16:39:03 [benadida]: benadida has left #SWD
16:39:06 [RalphS]: rrsagent, draft minutes
16:39:06 [RRSAgent]: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-minutes.html RalphS
16:39:09 [Zakim]: -Simone
16:39:17 [Antoine]: Antoine has left #swd
16:41:15 [Zakim]: -Elisa_Kendall
16:42:03 [RalphS]: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2007JanMar/0109.html Chairs telecon 12 March, 1500 UTC
16:47:34 [Zakim]: -Ralph
16:47:35 [Zakim]: -TomB
16:47:37 [Zakim]: SW_SWD()11:00AM has ended
16:47:38 [Zakim]: Attendees were Jan, Ralph, TomB, JonP, Elisa_Kendall, Simone, Sean, berrueta, Ben_Adida, Antoine
16:47:42 [RalphS]: zakim, bye
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16:47:45 [RalphS]: rrsagent, bye
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: I see 8 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-actions.rdf :
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph get tracker to watch public-swd-wg@w3.org [1]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-10-13
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph to check if Tracker is in BigBrother mode [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/02/27-swd-minutes.html#action15] (DONE) [2]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-10-30
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft, add comments, and coordinate work [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action06] [3]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-15-53
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Elisa to summarize state of Vocabulary Management draft and add comments [4]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-17-22
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action14] [6]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-18-14
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: should schedule a vote on this for another call [8]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-24-41-1
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: on Ben to ping existing reviewers and solicit additional feedback in time for a vote next week. [9]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-31-09
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: ACTION: Elisa and Sean to review [10]
16:47:45 [RRSAgent]: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/06-swd-irc#T16-35-34